H&M vs Backgrid

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H&M have apparently ’demanded’ pap footage from Backgrid, according to TMZ.

Their lawyer has replied with the following:

In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do. Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers

Court case #6 incoming?

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/

This is what I think too. And it doesn't even have to be about whether the RF way is more effective or Harry's way is more effective. Because who gets to make the decision matters. And if you're in the RF there's a hierarchy, and Harry was at best middle ranking, but probably actually towards the bottom of the heap of working royals in terms of influence. Less influential than Charles and William for certain, and probably less influential with QEII than eg Anne or Sophie.

Yes, look at the press reaction to them attending The Lion King premier instead of a military event (to honour those who had died in service?) that Harry was expected at. The networking opportunities at the Disney do were perhaps too good to miss, but for many people they were demonstrating that the lower key, service/duty aspect of royal life wasn't for them. That would have been the first of many if the half and half option had been permitted.

Hopefully there will be no need for further royal engagements in this country and they can make their lives in America as fulfilling as they hoped it would be

German TV has video of H&Ms security blocking 2 lanes of traffic and the Police intervening to tell them to move.

You can see at least 2 taxis driving round them by going up on the pavement slightly.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/4EgEwcb26RI?feature=share

Hmm, everyone on Twitter seemed convinced that all the paps were British, so this debunks that theory

Why would all the paps be British?

I wonder if H&M's spokesperson's statement was an attempt at a pre-emptive strike? If case anyone criticised their security's actions, to try and create a narrative of being 'forced' to take those measures because of paparazzi.

I think he didn't actually appreciate how shielded he was from the press when he was in the RF.

Sorry - I mean realise.

Because apparently Charles/Camilla and/or William orchestrated the whole thing.
Honestly, it was mental.

@MrsFinkelstein That video is all over Twitter and has been for a while. I wonder why news agencies like TMZ or Page 6 haven't picked it up yet?

Well that pap guy didn't sound remotely British to me I can speak German so it's funny. You're not allowed to blockade streets in New York. Twitter is just an echo chamber and follows the clucks and this isn't being said everywhere. Re charles William etc

I think it's widely available enough that some media outlets would have picked it up. It backs up what others have maintained, that it was Harry's security team that contributed to the mayhem and cars driving on pavements.
Are these the 2 police officers whose lives were endangered?

It was inevitable that a video would emerge showing Sussex security breaking road rules- you wouldn't be able to get rid of someone following you without making risky manoeuvres.

I am surprised that Harry hasn't published a clip showing the paps acting dangerously as retaliation. Maybe his lawyers or Netflix have said not to. I am surprised that the paps haven't been outed or am I being cynical here ?

They've backed themselves into a bit of a corner though, haven't they? With their statement.

Unless they can show a near-collision - or another near-catastrophe - a clip won't get much traction. Going through an amber light or similar would be a bit of an anti-climax.

Going through an amber light or similar would be a bit of an anti-climax.

Even running a red light isn't going to be that shocking unless it causes a near pile up. I know on MN traffic offences are heinous acts but for most people they're a bit meh.

I agree. Actually I'm amazed that more clips haven't appeared. I can only think that such incidents as motorists getting into arguments with police, and cars screeching over pavements almost knocking people over are humdrum in NY so nobody gave a sufficient toss to film it. With such mayhem and Chris Sanchez talking of near fatalities, you'd think pedestrians would have come forward by now, threatening lawsuits. It's impossible that no one was injured or cars damaged. Maybe they all went to the police,rather than the media.

I think it's interesting that this clip has emerged because Harry's security has talked about their vehicle being blocked by the photographers but doesn't mention that they tried to block the traffic themselves which forced cars to drive on the pavement.

@Haywirecity Someone posted a clip from German TV where Harry's security chauffeur or something blocked off the road and the police had to intervene. So clips are leaking out.

Yes, that's the clip I talking about.
Wheels thought it was inevitable that video would be leaked because the Sussexes would have to have broken the highway code to lose the paps.
I said I was surprised more videos (either way) hadn't been published by members of the public.

Did you see what a guy in The Telegraph said?

Last week there a paparazzi pursuit involving Harry and Meghan, thankfully they didn’t catch the paparazzi.

😂

Shit. I’m sorry; that’s funny!😂

Can someone explain why that clip is relevant? I see a car on a street in Manhattan, not blocking traffic. It looks like it might be from the time period when they were still inside the venue.

What’s the big reveal?

When the car is stationary and the driver/passenger is out of the car then it’s blocking traffic. You can also see a taxi squeezing past they mounting pavement allegation.

The way it's parked its blocking 2 lanes of traffic, that's why the Police are telling them to move. You can hear horns blaring and then 2 taxis look like they've had to bump onto the pavement slightly to get by.

If you listen you can hear the guy filming say something about him being a paparazzi but that the SUV driver is being an asshole "all night".

The German voice over says its filmed by paparazzi during "the chase" though you never see H&M at all.

I've seen comments that H&Ms security were deliberately riling up the paparazzi that night (prior to the incident), but then again they (the paparazzi) would say that, wouldn't they.

@AliceOlive I used to speak German fluently but it was in my youth! The reporter is saying something about the road being blocked by their car and you can't do that. I'm too lazy to listen again, but the blocked road I think is what was in the 'spokespersons' original statement refers to along with something to do with a one way street.