H&M vs Backgrid

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H&M have apparently ’demanded’ pap footage from Backgrid, according to TMZ.

Their lawyer has replied with the following:

In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do. Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers

Court case #6 incoming?

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/

Also they are very sensitive about their public image and try to control it when it's not possible. They don't want to be blindsided by some unflattering video or images coming out.

Totally agree with this.

According to the Backgrid statement the photographers were simply doing their job. 3 cars were used by them and the dangerous evasive action was taken by the security team

That would not surprise me one bit.

I think that the children are a possible motive to follow them but also

• They might meet a celebrity friend for dinner. They had a dinner with Cameron Diaz and others a few days ago.
• If their friend has a history of criticising the RF or inappropriate in another way eg Russian oligarch then publications like the Mail will happily use that info for clicks.
• If it's a friend that the media don't know about then it becomes more clickbait and someone to watch.
• It could be a friend that makes gives a clue about future projects eg a director or studio head

You've missed the point. US media was overall once very very positive & flattering to them. Mainly all positive articles.

They've changed to a negative tone now. Same on TV media. The View panel were all very positive to them, now its more critical.

As I said - the honeymoon is over.

Not Fox/NYPost/ or other Murdock news.

Whoopi was talking cack quoting things that were never said and Sunny quickly corrected her.

I saw this today. Its Tiktok so obviously take with a hefty pinch of salt.

But it's about the 4th different person ive seen saying the same thing. They were staying at the same apartment on the Upper East side loaned by a friend they've stayed at before. The apartment they were filmed in for parts of Netflix.

Details start at about .50 secs

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJ9jRt3R/

How would "law enforcement" know about their hotel booking? 😂

I don't think we watched the same episode then because only Sunny was being supportive (as she always is regardlessof situation). All the others spoke more sense, especially Sarah and Alyssa.

Interesting points, WheelsUp, and yes I suppose footage could appear in a future programme if they ever manage to get hold of it.
If it does, let's just hope it's the authentic record rather than being doctored as the headlines were on Oprah

On the public image thing though, sometimes being seen trying to control it can almost be worse than letting things run, especially if a mess is made of things.
Given that the toxic media will always go for the throat, it seems foolhardy to offer them stories on a plate by amping up the narrative then not being able to prove it

How would "law enforcement" know about their hotel booking?

Maybe they asked the security team and hotel staff why the fuck they didn't do the normal thing of booking a hotel room to avoid the "chase" and got that answer.

It will be gossip or second hand info because police wouldn't be involve in booking the hotel - but it does suggest a level of exacerbation from a least one officer.

I personally don't think it means it was made up by reporter but it is still gossip.

I do think this was bad PR for couple and hasn't helped them with US media.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/18/duke-and-duchess-of-hazard-how-us-and-uk-press-covered-the-harry-and-meghan-car-chase-story

This guy sounds measured and reasonable in his analysis.

https://twitter.com/bookedbusy/status/1659877476867219458

Not sure you are the arbiter of “fair and reasonable”.

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@AliceOlive

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Neither are you

With bells on, because twitter, vanity fair, TikTok are such reliable sources of real news. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

These deluded people are giving me a lot of giggles today

You are the deluded one on here.

H&M didn't get a discount last time they were there so it's not normal for them.

It's saying that celebrities shouldn't bother asking for a discount because they won't get one.

The taxi left the police station, ie was moving, but it then got caught behind a another stationary vehicle. They were waiting, and hoping, for the vehicle to start moving as it eventually did. No one was thinking of getting out of the car. The paps 'swarmed on them' (cab drivers words) and started taking the photos. So as it had driven out of the police station, they should have had their seatbelts on and they couldn't get out of the car because of the paps and nowhere to go.
The cab driver, who seemed a fair and honest guy, has talked about this.
Personally, I couldn't care less if they wore their seatbelts or not.

Here is the statement from Backgrid themselves.
Let's look at is it credible?

Yes, because they have all the footage and can therefore provide evidence to support their claim. They would not put a statement out like this when their own footage could prove them false.

Are Backgrid reliable?

No reason not to think so and as they are meghans photo agency of choice and could easily confirm she alerts them to send in their chosen photographers, rather risky to upset them.

Why do Harry and Meghan want the footage handed over?
Obviously it proves their official statement a total lie regarding the 'near catastrophic car chase'.

Vanity fairs nonsensical account, is just an account given by the Sussex team.

I think peoole are wrong to laugh because I do think the guy is coming across as fair and reasonable - and knowing his stuff. He makes very good points.

But, at the same time, he's saying that it was the head of the security firm, Tom Buda, who decided they should go to the police station and get in the taxi - which is contrary to what people on here have said, ie that it was the police who said they needed to go to the police station and came up with the taxi idea.
Also, he says that Harry's security were told to keep to the highway rules. But Harry's security has said they had to speed down FDR Drive,at 80mph to try to escape.
It's clear that this guy, John Miller, has been in touch with the security firm and is repeating what he's been told by them. So all the details are from their perspective. And indeed this video was made for "the Sussex Squad" with warnings that anything posted against it, would be deleted. So probably not even handed.
But I've watched other videos that @notanotheroneagain has posted whose content providers are clearly telling the truth about what they've been told. Even though we can't be sure that what they've been told is exactly true, it's indicative that there is definitely truth to the fact that this was made into an unnecessarily unpleasant journey by the paps, and although nothing near catastrophic happened, someone most definitely could have got hurt.

Famous people in NYC are going to get photographed. If you court publicity these things will happen. No one was in any danger. No one was involved in an 80mph chase (have you seen NY traffic?). It was exaggerated and dramatised because this is what these two do.

If there was any footage on any camera (there must be thousands in New York) we would have seen it be now. There's always someone with camera phone footage putting it on social media in minutes.

Tumbleweed.

I’m going with the New York Times assessment !

Now we know how the Queen of Hertz photos came about. They decided not to pose photos outside for the press but ducked in the hertz side door to avoid the press.

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