should the coronation be abolished

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Britian is the only European country with a monarchy that still has a coronation. Other countries have either abandoned the coronation or have never had one.

Do you think Britain should abandon the coronation or keep it

I have said before on threads... if Charles (or indeed William when his time comes) wants an all singing all dancing Coronation, just bloody well pay for it yourselves! It's a one off.

They are multi millionaires/billionaires (although that is shrouded in secrecy).

What a truly wonderful legacy Charles could've handed down to his son. "We truly appreciate the funding of the Monarchy, which is part of the fabric of our society, however I feel each new Monarch should pay for the Coronation they desire"

If that had happened I might even become a Royalist... seriously!

I bet you it would've been smaller if Charles paid for it! Even if he can afford the £350M.

The royal pomp and circumstance is one of the few things Britain has as a USP. The cost of it is nothing compared what it does to our profile and soft power globally.

We have a thousand year old legacy and we are milking it. It doesn’t matter what jug eared idiot wears the crown - they have no real constitutional power and they are a force for good charitable causes.

The ‘not my king’ dickheads don’t see the bigger picture. They see the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Careful what you wish for indeed.

I can’t believe the RF didn’t read the current climate and tone it down tbh. I hope William acts with more sensitivity when it’s his turn.

The royal pomp and circumstance is one of the few things Britain has as a USP

Many many other countries have their own unique USP too. You've obviously never been to Paris on Bastille Day. Military marching, their equivalent of the Red arrows flypasts with red white and blue. Just as good as ours. But French.

We do like to think we are the only ones that can do this. We're not!

How cheap did all the priceless loot look as well?
Is it modern tech ? I saw those shiny robes with curtain swags that Andrew Kate etc Al were draped in .
Oh yes I'm sure it referred to some medieval knightly honour . How apt re Andrew
It all looked cheap on a high def tv

Yes I thought it all looked cheap or vulgar not sure which. And then Andrew sat at the end of the third row togged up to the chin in cape and bows. He was determined, but not a good look - if only he knew.

You're forgetting this is primarily an ancient religious ceremony. So unless you want to ban Christianity too it's irrelevant

@UWhatNow

No the pomp you refer to is shallow and based on the empire era militarism in the most part

The abbey is beautiful and that wont change
The religious aspect of the coronation is the sticking point . That needs reform
The cost should be covered by the Windsors
It's their PR event after all
And the monarch does have power -they keep that part quiet along with the excluding themselves from laws

I agree with you.

I'm surprised you haven't gone on about 'sky fairies'

I'm hoping that Chucky is just the continuity monarch filling in the gap between Betty and Bill, and by the time Bill's turn comes around we'll have had a national discussion about what we want from a monarchy and we'd have agreed to scale it all back to something a good deal more sensible.

I did find the huge white bows on the shoulders rather jarring against the off white ermine to be honest.

And those humungous stars on Sophie's and Kate's cloaks!! Just bizarre.

Andrew... yuk.

Abolish, not, maybe modify? I am originally Spanish and the “proclamation” ceremony is too simple and characterless. The Crown sits on a cushion and the King never wears it. I think a coronation with some pomp (and the King actually wearing the crown) is a must but all the, I’m sorry, fancy dress and elaborated rite, is perhaps too much for our time.

I only opened this thread to say that

Did Charles don his 'bracelets of sincerity' before his appearance on American Idol later that day?

My goodness, I honestly thought that my friend was joking when KC and C turned up on American idol!

I’ll have to look to see if there is another thread about it? I’ll be surprised if there isn’t as to my mind it was truly bizarre!

Maybe it explains the Disney blue ribbons on the gold coach? Was the Coronation, rather than being a solemn religious service, one big Instagram moment for UK plc?

All those interviews about Lionel Richie having been friends with Charles for a long time? Really? I had never heard that anywhere before now I don’t
think! And Katy Perry being given star billing?

And the connection with Tom Cruise? Nothing is incidental!

Maybe KC’s PR company judged that Harry has done some serious damage to the RF’s reputation in the US? And they wanted to repair it?

Or maybe they think Harry is on to something good and want to exploit it?

Or maybe they saw Biden snubbing Sunak and felt that something should be done?

I can’t imagine that turning up on American idol would achieve any of those objectives?
Truly, truly odd!

I’ll have to look to see if there is another thread about it? I’ll be surprised if there isn’t as to my mind it was truly bizarre!

Royalists have not mentioned it. Bit embarrassing I imagine.

Please don't mention the Tom Cruise clip... that was absolutely naff. Seriously it was.

I don't really get this. If you're a UK citizen in the UK, he is your King. you don't have to like it at all, but it doesn't change the fact that he is.

I don't really get this. If you're a UK citizen in the UK, he is your King. you don't have to like it at all, but it doesn't change the fact that he is.

Precisely.

I want to keep it thanks OP, I enjoyed watching the Coronation. As did many others.

And those that didn't were arrested without cause.

We are allowed to have a different opinion, freedom of speech an' all.

I know the Monarchy isn't going anywhere. I know Charles is a King. I know it is part of the fabric of our Society. But going on the thread title, I want each Monarch to pay for the sort of Coronation they want (bet it would be smaller if they paid for it!) and for the whole shebang to be slimmed down to just the Monarch and the direct heir. Other Royal houses manage this, why can't we?.

Agreed! bless the little simpletons with their # and a placard 😂

I think that should be the last overblown royal pantomime we're expected to pay for.

If Willy wants the circus coming to town when he's up, he pays.

@peachescariad
Monarchy is in place by consent

The protesters are making clear that they do not consent

This public protest also communicates to others that they are not alone in wanting a democratic say this matter . This is one of the reasons why peaceful protestors were removed in such a disgraceful manner

Have you seen the amount of ceremony they have for a presidential inauguration in the USA. Every 4 years! I think a once in a generation coronation is fine as long as it moves with the times - it was significantly shortened and items were reused this time

@gogohmm
Invalid comparison

We do not combine PM and President into one role

Also shortening the length of the service isn't really much of a gain.

The costs were multiples of tue last one even allowing for inflation

No sign of this so called 'slimmed down' monarchy .
Fewer people - same or greater costs

Do they think we are stupid
(well let's say not all of us are )

I think a once in a generation coronation is fine as long as it moves with the times - it was significantly shortened and items were reused this time

Apart from being shorter and recycling a bit of bling what was it about last week's medieval throwback that struck you as moving with the times?