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In 3 years a Jubilee, Coronation, 2 x state funerals - how much?

146 replies

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:08

Seriously - since 2021 we have had 4 massive events.

Why is it so hard to find the costs / spend.

Not the usual "a pound per person, worth it, billions in tourisim".

Transparent, freely available, hard core numbers?

How much did we, as a nation, spend on these events in the past three years?

It should be easy.

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4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:37

Roussette · 07/05/2023 14:34

Yes I would. We will never see it. Because the cost of security is kept secret.

I hope to god there are no more of these events for very many years.

Because the cost of security is kept secret.

Convenient.

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Roussette · 07/05/2023 14:37

All I know is forget the 43p a week nonsense. That is what is put out there to shut us up.

Bank holidays cost the economy millions. Yes I know some businesses managed to sell Chinese tat and cupcakes, but it will have cost us dearly. And security is what I would like to know.
The figure will be embarrassing so will never be known.

JellyBeanFactory · 07/05/2023 14:37

According to www.investmentmonitor.ai/features/how-much-money-does-the-monarchy-bring-to-the-uk/#:~:text=Some%20%C2%A31.7bn%20a,far%20greater%20sums%20each%20year. The Royal Family brings in £1.2 billion a year. Around £50 million of that is from opening up their residences/gardens etc.

This: amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/14/the-sovereigns-wealth-uk-royal-familys-finances-explained states the diverging grant is £86.3 million which is approximately £1.29 per taxpayer per year.

So, they bring in more than is paid out.

JellyBeanFactory · 07/05/2023 14:38

*Sovereign grant

kitsuneghost · 07/05/2023 14:39

I sm sure you can Google just as easy as anyone else.
Whatever it is it's probably still less than benefits handouts in a single year.

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:39

Iminthemoneylife · 07/05/2023 14:34

2 state funerals. Have I missed something?

Yes - I see I made a mistake there.

One state funeral.

The Queen.

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Roussette · 07/05/2023 14:41

I have plenty of Guardian articles to make a bit of a mockery of that. But don't want to derail. And don't get me started on the Duchies...

https://www.republic.org.uk/the_true_cost_of_the_royals
https://www.republic.org.uk/tourism

Iminthemoneylife · 07/05/2023 14:41

NerrSnerr · 07/05/2023 14:36

Phillip and the Queen I presume?

He didn’t have a state funeral.

Polarsnare · 07/05/2023 14:42

kitsuneghost · 07/05/2023 14:39

I sm sure you can Google just as easy as anyone else.
Whatever it is it's probably still less than benefits handouts in a single year.

As that's above 200 billion a year, I would be very surprise if that isn't the case!

Polarsnare · 07/05/2023 14:43

Roussette · 07/05/2023 14:41

I have plenty of Guardian articles to make a bit of a mockery of that. But don't want to derail. And don't get me started on the Duchies...

https://www.republic.org.uk/the_true_cost_of_the_royals
https://www.republic.org.uk/tourism

Speaking of transparency and breakdowns? How did they arrive at that figure?

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:44

Polarsnare · 07/05/2023 14:34

Also most of the money towards these will have been spent on wages- military, police, security staff, private sector hospitality and events management etc for these events. It's probably hard to quantify because a lot of these would be paid anyway, sure you'd probably pay travel or overtime for some, but why would they employ people to figure out that amount. You can see on their annual report on the website a very broad overview of costs.

been spent on wages- military, police, security staff,

If you just take that - the scale of personel in London yesterday. The staffing costs for that must be eye watering.

That has to come from somewhere. Does that mean we stand police down to a skeleton crew for the next while to make up for it?

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4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:46

kitsuneghost · 07/05/2023 14:39

I sm sure you can Google just as easy as anyone else.
Whatever it is it's probably still less than benefits handouts in a single year.

Whatever it is it's probably still less than benefits handouts in a single year.

And this means what exactly?

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clpsmum · 07/05/2023 14:47

From what I can gather after a quick search
Queen funeral 20MILLION
Prince Phillip Funeral 3-5million
Coronation 250 million
Jubilee 1.3BILLION. WTAF

not sure why they can't find it themselves tbh

MrsFinkelstein · 07/05/2023 14:48

All combined - they will have cost us less than Brexit and Liz Truss's disastrous budget.

Blame the British electorate for that.

CheshireCat1 · 07/05/2023 14:49

Oliver Cromwell had a state funeral, during us being a republic, which was bigger than a previous royal state funeral. So did Isaac Newton, Lord Wellington, Lord Nelson and Winston Churchill for example. People lived in real poverty then. Monarchy or Republic, there still will be big costly events.
King Charles 111 Coronation will cost between 100-150 million, the revenue it will bring in is 1 billion.

Roussette · 07/05/2023 14:49

Polarsnare · 07/05/2023 14:43

Speaking of transparency and breakdowns? How did they arrive at that figure?

You'll have to ask them. But it carries just as much weight as other statements put out to the contrary. They have been delving into Monarchy and finances for decades.

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:52

Polarsnare · 07/05/2023 14:42

As that's above 200 billion a year, I would be very surprise if that isn't the case!

Wait - are we comparing monies given to the less well off in our society to the moneies given to the royal family?

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4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:53

JellyBeanFactory · 07/05/2023 14:37

According to www.investmentmonitor.ai/features/how-much-money-does-the-monarchy-bring-to-the-uk/#:~:text=Some%20%C2%A31.7bn%20a,far%20greater%20sums%20each%20year. The Royal Family brings in £1.2 billion a year. Around £50 million of that is from opening up their residences/gardens etc.

This: amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/14/the-sovereigns-wealth-uk-royal-familys-finances-explained states the diverging grant is £86.3 million which is approximately £1.29 per taxpayer per year.

So, they bring in more than is paid out.

Thank you - will have a read.

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4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:54

Roussette · 07/05/2023 14:41

I have plenty of Guardian articles to make a bit of a mockery of that. But don't want to derail. And don't get me started on the Duchies...

https://www.republic.org.uk/the_true_cost_of_the_royals
https://www.republic.org.uk/tourism

Thank you - I will have a read.

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wildinthecountry · 07/05/2023 14:54

Really royal events come in gluts weddings , funerals and coronations etc . there will be no royal events in the near future . The only weddings in future will be Edwards kids which is unlikely to be high profile . The likely hood of seeing Harry in this country again is small , very small .. But as I said royal events come in gluts .

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:55

clpsmum · 07/05/2023 14:47

From what I can gather after a quick search
Queen funeral 20MILLION
Prince Phillip Funeral 3-5million
Coronation 250 million
Jubilee 1.3BILLION. WTAF

not sure why they can't find it themselves tbh

They is a she and my issue is not being able to find breakdowns.

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Polarsnare · 07/05/2023 14:56

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:52

Wait - are we comparing monies given to the less well off in our society to the moneies given to the royal family?

No I was responding to a PP who mentioned it. Also a large portion of benefits are given to people employed in jobs that don't pay a livable wage- why are government propping up private businesses? Shouldn't there be pressure to pay people more? Another conversation but the fact supermarkets make monster profits but people who work hard in them often require and are eligible for UC top ups to survive is ludicrous but yet again there's more energy for the royals. And yes of course that's exactly what happens with the police!

@Roussette I'll help you out a bit as I've asked them before, the amount includes imaginary rent for the properties royal own as well as what they spend which seems...odd.

Farmerama1 · 07/05/2023 14:57

I am also interested in this.

4plusthehound · 07/05/2023 14:57

MrsFinkelstein · 07/05/2023 14:48

All combined - they will have cost us less than Brexit and Liz Truss's disastrous budget.

Blame the British electorate for that.

Did Liz Truss win a general election?

Agree re Brexit but that is democracy in action. We can slug it out.

However, we have no choice in funding huge parties for unelected heads of state and it bothers me greatly.

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Angrymum22 · 07/05/2023 14:58

Slightly bewildered that Prince Phillips funeral cost so much since it was all held behind closed doors and with limited staff and attendees. Does no body remember that the royal family stuck to the rules ( 30 people) and that the Queen was still being shielded, we now know why, the Duke had already sorted out his own hearse and would have been delighted it was such a low key event. I would think the TV coverage cost more than the funeral itself.
Also OP, what do you understand by televised rights. You seem a little naive when it comes to fairly simple economics.

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