The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation

[MamoruHisaishi]

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

Meanwhile, according to Sky News:

"Food prices increased by a record annual rate of 15.7% last month as pressure continues to mount on household finances.
Fresh food prices saw a record jump of 17.8% year-on-year for April, while the price of ambient products, such as tinned goods and other store-cupboard items, went up 12.9%."

I'm not really bothered one way or the other, also having a bank holiday is detrimental for us retired folk as it means places are busy and prices have gone up for going away this weekend

I had a conversation with an intelligent 16 year old this afternoon. They said that the royal family is irrelevant to teenagers. They are concerned about the cost of university, the job market and then the unaffordability of houses.

Also, "why is he flying in all those other kings and stuff? Doesn't he know they could watch it on Zoom and save the planet a bit like he's always going on about?"

l would volunteer to work on a Saturday if l could just to avoid it.

My Dd is 16, her and her friends just say why do we have a royal family when no one cares about it? It’s totally irrelevant to her. I’m sure they would prefer paid for university than a royal family.

The concert line up is uninspiring. They could have had a concert that people really wanted to watch on TV

I can’t think of one decent band that would support the royals. Not one. Dd 16 said to me that Katy Perry was a ‘has been’ and who were ‘Take That’ and ‘Lionel Ritchie?’

Love how the headliners aren’t even British😂 except Take That. Christ, Lionel Ritchie.😂. His heyday was 40 years ago.

Ridiculous. Unless its the Katie Price Jordan behind the sceern with him, which would make it slightly more interesting.

I'll be glad when it is all over. I'm hoping I will sleep through the whole thing. There is nothing going on in our street, mainly because there are no children. To be honest I thing the coronation is a disgrace mainly because of how much public money that would be better spent somewhere else is being spent on it. To say that this is a slimmed down event is a joke, why he couldn't have done the oaths & what have you without all the robes, carriages & processions, £135 million is being spent on security alone.

I saw that video, it was like Rishi was doing a big fuck you to everybody.

I’m completely indifferent about the Coronation, as as far as I can tell apart from the village pub trying to drum up enthusiasm for some sort of party absolutely nothing is going on here. Unlike the Jubilee, when there were a number of street parties, no bunting, posters or any signs of celebrations.
It’s an obscene waste of money imo; I cannot imagine anything more tone deaf than this. It just demonstrates how far removed from reality the Royal family are.

Definitely awful for the planet. If he had said "I will have a small, private ceremony and donate x pounds to a charity which works to mitigate our impact on the environment" I would have much more respect.

I've done my bit. We have a small coronation party in the office tomorrow and I've just dusted the icing sugar onto a Victoria sponge cake and put it in its box.

We'll watch a bit of it on tv but otherwise just be grateful for an extra day off. I will happily swear allegiance to the crown (better than any politician) but that's not the same as swearing allegiance to a specific person. I've no idea yet if Charles will be a good king.

There is a house near us who have gone completely mad, flags and bunting round windows, along their fence, union jack on a flag pole 😀

There is nothing going on in our street, mainly because there are no children

Children! (Chitty Chitty Bang Bang)🍭

I don’t support an institution that has so much wealth and privilege. There’s surely no place for the royals in our society whilst so many people struggle to pay for the basics. It’s just wrong.

Where I live there are just under a 1000 streets and I’ve just looked up how many street parties are expected - 1 on the Saturday and 1 on the Sunday

Re the concert and lack of big names - did I read somewhere that Adele, Ed Sheeran and Elton all turned down invites to take part??

We were also saying how no one is demanding that shops, football etc are all shut / rescheduled so everyone can watch is a sign that no one gives a shit, unlike the Queens funeral.

I shall be defrosting my freezer and listening to 80’s tunes

I’ve woken up today to this headline:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/02/anti-monarchists-receive-intimidatory-home-office-letter-on-new-protest-laws-coronation.

So now legislation is being rushed through to prevent peaceful protest by Republicans!

And there was me naively thinking that Britain had a fine tradition of free speech!

I am grateful for a constitutional monarch to maintain the balance of power, separation of powers and prevent a void etc. I feel no ill will but equally no real affinity towards C. I’m grateful for the Princes Trust that helped my disabled son. Presumably the Coronation will bring in more tourist money than it costs but then lots of that is dissolved amongst off shore coffee shops/ chain food stores so not really UK income. Also people buy Chinese bunting off Amazon does not really help the economy. It would have been a grand gesture for him to eschew a large coronation and give the money to build something worthwhile like a new electric battery plant or wind turbines etc. That money could have been used to create jobs or help the economy.

@Flappingtarps

I saw that too. Good timing, eh? It was a bit of a North Korea moment reading that. Republic have put out a statement...
"We are proceeding as planned. Free speech and the right to protest are fundamental principles in a democracy."
As Charles gave royal assent on Tuesday, I presume that means he is rubber stamping a law to prevent people protesting against him...

It is indeed outrageous! The last thing I thought would be undermined was the British right to free speech and peaceful protest.

Kay Burley putting Tom Tugendhat (as Minister for Security) on the back foot about the cost of security. She says the public want to know and he is trying to avoid an answer in every which way. He does seem to agree it will be more than £150million however. That is just security.

I feel this whole thing is totally out of hand and it is turning people away from the Monarchy.

Security is to protect the public as much as the royals, in fact more so the public who will be essentially sitting targets. Should we just never do large scale events again? Presumably a fair chunk of the money is going to the people (many low paid) doing overtime, contracted for the event etc to provide and feed into the security effort; should they not be paid?

The only bunting around here is outside the local care homes which gives you an idea of the target audience. Kids school are doing red white and blue but I kept their Union Jack stuff from the jubilee so am using that again.

No urge to listen to the BBC wanking on to tell me how I should feel and Witchell simpering around.

I haven't said we should never do large scale events? And where have I said people shouldn't be paid? 🤣
I am talking of the massive security cost of £150million plus. And the rest is another £100million plus

As I have said before on different threads, I think this is a one off and Charles should pay. Why not? He's a multi millionaire/some say billionaire. He is already King. The Coronation is a choice, not a necessity. It is just a massive PR event for the RF. Other European royal houses don't do it. Spain last had a Coronation in 1555 !

He should pay for it himself. And then William would do the same in years to come. It just seems to me that the RF take as much money as they possibly can from the public and pay out the smallest amount they can get away with. Our Monarchy costs us £86.3M. Spain's RF costs £7.4M. I have connections with Spain, the people would just not put up with such extravagence. Our RF are greedy, wanting more and more from the public purse.

Charles should be paying for the Coronation.

"Re the concert and lack of big names - did I read somewhere that Adele, Ed Sheeran and Elton all turned down invites to take part??"

You did. Then Ed Sheeran put out a statement saying he'd never actually been asked.

So you fell for PR spin put out online by people trying to generate headlines.

I'm looking forward to it, as are most of the people at work.

Seems to me the majority are - even those moaning. They do love something to moan about and they're getting worked up into a lovely froth.

As a Nurse I much prefer to direct my ire to the real cause of our current economic woes - the Tories.

But moaning about the cost of the security bill (which we spend a tonne on anyway) surely means you think it shouldn't be as high- the bulk will be on wages, so presumably you think they should be cut? Okay you don't mind events you're keen on.

I honestly don't understand what point you are trying to make.

The Coronation is happening. The security cost alone is over £150million. There has to be security. Nowhere have I said wages should be cut. Such a strange thing to take from my posts.

I have however explained who I think should be paying for this in my longer post.