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The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation

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MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

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Roussette · 07/05/2023 11:48

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/05/2023 11:38

Agree about the likely attacks on George if he turned away, Roussette, but let's not forget that's from the POV of today's sensibilities, with the Queen not long dead and Charles a bit of a busted flush meaning that many monarchists actively want better things to hope for in future

However attitudes can change - indeed are already changing - and unless W&K can make a hell of a difference there's no knowing how George's own decisions may be viewed down the line

I just hope so. I really do. Everyone should have life choices. I just hope time may change certain things but I had high hopes for Charles and it looks like nothing is going to change at all.

I would've so admired him if he'd paid for his own Coronation.

Roussette · 07/05/2023 11:51

Fortboyard · 07/05/2023 11:46

I said the same myself about the children yesterday. It is tantamount to abuse to raise children in such a high pressure, media-scrutinised way. The queen and the generations before experienced far far less of this pressure. That pressure of expectation resulted in royals marrying people that they shouldn’t have chosen. That leads to unhappy marriages and distressed kids. Imagine if your every outfit, action and comment was seized upon and judged, personally I don’t know how any of them make it through the day.

The pressure/expectation comes from the media-consuming public. The actual responsibility for this is on the shoulders of those who buy and consume the media that simultaneously lauds and vilifies them. The cult of royalty and celebrity is totally toxic.

Great post. So agree. There has to come a pressure point surely. It can't carry on like this, every year gets worse as far as the media, the scrutiny of them, the relationship between them and the media which is broken I feel.

The trouble is... without the public's support they are irrelevant. They need good PR. Yesterday was PR. Trouble is, it turned a lot of people off too

And it is the children I feel for. George and Louis... the wives they marry who will be pitted against each other. and so on

Sudeko · 07/05/2023 12:16

George didn't look happy being made to perform in that role. When he grows up and researches his own family history, he may even resent it.

BishopRock · 07/05/2023 12:41

As for Harry, he should have been made to stay in England

Is he the property of Monarchy supporters, @Flute56 ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/05/2023 12:44

As for Harry, he should have been made to stay in England

Oh dear ... in the Tower perhaps? Grin

defi · 07/05/2023 16:45

Anyone else seen all the football chants? Negative reactions to the coronation don't seem to make it into the news just social media

adarkbarking · 07/05/2023 16:50

Flute56 · 06/05/2023 23:51

I sat and watched the coronation and I have to say I found it boring. The music and singing was nice but I have no enthusiasm for Charls or Camilla. It is not because of their age but their personality. They try their best but they never really cut it as far as I am concerned. I will never accept Camilla as Queen but I guess she is so we just have to accept it. I loved our late Queen and the Queen Mother but something about our current King and Queen I just cannot put my finger on. I still wonder if Charles had stayed married to Diana and Diana had not died, what sort of Queen would she have made? As for Harry, he should have been made to stay in England and not run off to the USA with Megan. Most of the Royal family are divorced. Princess Margarets children have been allowed to live separate lives more or less as ordinary people. They are not ordinary, they are Royals.

I am getting very bored with the Royal Family now and why do they always say how much Catherines clothes and accessories cost? Like we give a toss

What a lot you have to say about the Royal Family for someone who finds them boring.

I find them boring, and didn't watch the coronation. It's a bit odd to go to all the bother of watching it in order to say how boring it was.

Arginalia · 07/05/2023 16:52

Viewing figures peaked at 20 million, apparently, at the point Charles was crowned. I don't know how they measure viewing figures and whether this factors in people who watched it communally on big screens. If 20 million is accurate, that is high as viewing figures go, but less than 1/3 of the UK population, so make of it what you will.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65518360

King Charles being crowned

King Charles III's Coronation watched by more than 18 million viewers

The audience peaked at 20 million when the King was crowned in Westminster Abbey just after midday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65518360

Coxspurplepippin · 07/05/2023 18:54

We've been out for a long walk this afternoon and on the way back drove through loads of villages holding Coronation events - lunches on village greens and in marquees and village halls, picnics, afternoon teas. It was lovely to see folk sitting in the sunshine socialising, with bunting flapping about. Favourite decoration was a tissue/crepe paper gold coach and grey horses Grin

AspinallaSmythe · 07/05/2023 21:25

I'm watching the Coronation on catch up as I was out at an event yesterday.

As a country we do pomp very well don't we, whether you agree with it or not.

Camilla looks beautiful.

Loria · 07/05/2023 21:42

Interesting interview with an editor from the new York times this morning on R4. View from the USA seems to be that the display of wealth and military might is bizarrely incongruous given our economy and our position internationally. I agree it was a bit mad .

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 08/05/2023 10:12

Boudicasbeard · 06/05/2023 20:45

There is a really good thread on Reddit (which is hardly a monarchist space) that explains clearly why people were arrested today.

The Met tweeted that they were arrested for suspected breach of the peace. Today was a huge counter terrorism operation. Any commotion in the crowd would have had a huge ripple effect. There were tens of thousands( if not hundreds of thousands) of people moving through a small area of London. All it takes is one bad moment (one fracas between a royal supporter and a Republic member) to bring about a huge incident- this is how riots start.

So the police obviously took the decision to remove anyone who was aggressively protesting. There were many people with placards standing quietly who were left alone.

But the ones who were shouting and being intimidating were removed- see the woman who was having a go at the mounted Calvary guy. She had no support from the crowd. The police stepped on before it got ugly.

Managing people on this scale is very dicey. Republic were given space in Traflgar Square and some of them chose to try to get into the mall. Which could have led to altercations.

Reddit is a highly right wing space and likely welcomes our descent into fascism.

Thanks to the pcsc bill, the actions of the police were legal. They were "just following orders, right".

Plenty of people were arrested on Saturday just for walking to protests. Long term, that is going to have significant negative consequences for this country.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 08/05/2023 10:13

AspinallaSmythe · 07/05/2023 21:25

I'm watching the Coronation on catch up as I was out at an event yesterday.

As a country we do pomp very well don't we, whether you agree with it or not.

Camilla looks beautiful.

Yes, it's so good we do pomp well when there are people literally starving in this country.

How tone deaf can you be?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/05/2023 10:16

Reddit is a highly right wing space and likely welcomes our descent into fascism

Depends what subs you go in. I love Reddit for a bit if lighthearted stuff when MN gets too heavy. I’m 59 and have voted Labour all my life m. l still go on Reddit. ‘Spotted on Rightmove’ and ‘Very British Problems’ are hilarious. So is ‘Dad’s who did not want pets’

l see no signs of fascism on these🙄

Sudeko · 08/05/2023 10:20

Founded by Serena Williams' husband 🤔

Tabootle · 08/05/2023 10:23

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 08/05/2023 10:13

Yes, it's so good we do pomp well when there are people literally starving in this country.

How tone deaf can you be?

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This is one of the reasons I'm glad I left Britain. None of you can do anything because some people are sadly struggling. Race to the bottom or what.

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 10:27

Of course if we didn’t have pomp and ceremony there would be no social injustice at all.

TheDogsArse · 08/05/2023 10:30

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 10:27

Of course if we didn’t have pomp and ceremony there would be no social injustice at all.

That’s just whataboutery.

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 10:31

TheDogsArse · 08/05/2023 10:30

That’s just whataboutery.

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No it isn’t. It’s the logical conclusion from Yes, it's so good we do pomp well when there are people literally starving in this country.

Tabootle · 08/05/2023 10:33

TheDogsArse · 08/05/2023 10:30

That’s just whataboutery.

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It isn't, its the truth. Everyone needs to live in misery what a bleak little miserable island.

TheDogsArse · 08/05/2023 10:37

Tabootle · 08/05/2023 10:33

It isn't, its the truth. Everyone needs to live in misery what a bleak little miserable island.

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I don’t think everyone needs to live in misery at all just because others are worse off. But displays like the coronation are a step too far. And then to hear that Charles is ‘bored’ because the poor little lamb has to wait a few minutes in his carriage.

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 10:40

So not whataboutery at all @TheDogsArse.

Displays like the coronation are one of the very few things the UK actually does well and help mitigate the pity/scorn with which we’re increasingly regarded globally.

ScreamedTheLyrics · 08/05/2023 10:40

TheDogsArse · 08/05/2023 10:30

That’s just whataboutery.

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It is.

ScreamedTheLyrics · 08/05/2023 10:43

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 10:40

So not whataboutery at all @TheDogsArse.

Displays like the coronation are one of the very few things the UK actually does well and help mitigate the pity/scorn with which we’re increasingly regarded globally.

@TheDogsArse was spot on with saying it’s whataboutery. ‘This social injustice doesn’t matter because look over there at all that social injustice.’

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 10:44

ScreamedTheLyrics · 08/05/2023 10:43

@TheDogsArse was spot on with saying it’s whataboutery. ‘This social injustice doesn’t matter because look over there at all that social injustice.’

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Bollocks.

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