Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
The royal family
Original poster

The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation

756 replies

MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
44
KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 09:17

@Novella4 thank you. Please share far and wide - this is a very very dark day for democracy.

Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 09:17

In other words they have rights to peaceful protest but other people have the right to watch what they have chosen in peace too. One group of people's rights do not trump other rights.

They hadn’t even done anything for gods sake! And those watching this stupid thing aren’t peaceful ok, they’re disruptive by their numbers alone, they will be screaming and shouting and ‘enjoying themselves’, traffic will be stopped for it. Why do they get to do that but people can’t hold up placards?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/05/2023 09:17

What are the 'royals' so afraid of?
They know they are weakened so need the jack boot

I'm trying not to think this myself, but it's getting increasingly hard to avoid

All grist to the republican mill though ...

Roussette · 06/05/2023 09:18

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/05/2023 09:13

So people definitely are suggesting that protesters should shout, scream and generally disrupt the day

I'm not responsible for what others suggest, and if anyone causes serious civil disorder then by all means arrest them
However let's not forget we're not talking a bunch of known rioters here; it was a pre-arranged protest in which Republic cooperated fully with the authorities, only to be arrested for their trouble - and if people are prepared to defend this then frankly I find that deeply worrying

^^ This

They co-operated fully with the Police or weeks in advance. Only to be arrested at the place agreed with the Police

It is really really worrying.

Tabootle · 06/05/2023 09:18

KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 08:54

@Serenster and that’s what they’re fucking entitled to do!!!! We live in a democracy - why should the toadying sycophantic cretins who want to support this wanker and his awful family get it all their own way.

I’m so fucking angry I’m shaking. This is your king - he is responsible for this. He’s a wanker - hope you all enjoy the celebrations 🤬

It's the largest security operation this country has ever seen, its laughable you think Charles has anything to do with coordinating the police response. He will not have had any input or any voice in their plans, to think otherwise is ridiculous. The issue is with the government and the police.

Novella4 · 06/05/2023 09:20

The protest has been pinned on republics page for weeks

What do royalists fear so much from people who disagree
Republic is measured and intelligent in setting out its case

I guess that is scary enough

KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 09:21

@Tabootle they have been protesting at events for weeks now - you don’t think he had any input into saying “don’t you dare let those people spoil my party”? Really??? So this man who has interfered in politics all his life has taken the throne and suddenly stopped interfering?

Yes of course 🙄

Roussette · 06/05/2023 09:22

polkadotdalmation · 06/05/2023 09:15

Nobody give a damn if people protest, they have every right to do so. What they don't have the right to do is hold up huge signs that block people's views, or scream down megaphones ruining other people's enjoyment.

In other words they have rights to peaceful protest but other people have the right to watch what they have chosen in peace too. One group of people's rights do not trump other rights.

thats democracy

Oh dear

They were in a designated area agreed with the Police that would not block anyone's view

That was the whole point of liaison between Republic and Police in advance.

I find it very worrying that some posters seem to agree with the erosion of free speech.

We'll all have to hang a portrait of Charles up soon.... oh hang on...

Tabootle · 06/05/2023 09:22

KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 09:21

@Tabootle they have been protesting at events for weeks now - you don’t think he had any input into saying “don’t you dare let those people spoil my party”? Really??? So this man who has interfered in politics all his life has taken the throne and suddenly stopped interfering?

Yes of course 🙄

Even if he did if it was deemed unlawful he would have easily been overruled. He has no authority in terms of security. I'm not even a fan of his, but using him as a scapegoat once again goes to absolve the government and the police for the scary direction they're headed in.

KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 09:22

@Novella4 thats exactly what they fear - because you don’t have to peel back many layers to see what an appalling corrupt And outdated institution it is, Charles doesn’t want people tiring of the bread and circuses - what a disaster that would be.

KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 09:24

@Tabootle i blame all of them - the government absolutely are to blame. But what angers me is that royalists paint Charles as an innocent party. He’s not. He’s as bad as the rest of them - up to his eyes in it.

vera99 · 06/05/2023 09:25

There are 11000 police - probably the protest would have been at best no more than a few dozen. There would have been nil chance of disorder or breach of the peace. Indeed, many of the crowds would have mocked them, ignored them, laughed at them or maybe had amiable conversations. The real reason is they don't want to see notmyking placards on the world media when the world is watching. So that the message of a grateful nation celebrating their beloved monarch is transmitted. When the truth is only 19% of the country really loves all of this. Just donated 25 quid to the cause.

"I've just seen that the CEO of Republic has been arrested under the provisions of the Public Order Act passed this week. Apparently the straps on some of their placards were taken by police to be potentially usable as "locking-on" devices - now illegal."

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/05/2023 09:27

... they have rights to peaceful protest but other people have the right to watch what they have chosen in peace too. One group of people's rights do not trump other rights

Indeed - and that's precisely why an area was pre-agreed which wouldn't disrupt the enjoyment of others, except that it turned out to be sheer entrapment

For those who support the police action I'd suggest it's wise to be careful what you wish for. Some monarchists may well believe this is all jolly good, but what happens when it concerns a pre-agreed, peaceful protest over something they'd rather oppose?

Novella4 · 06/05/2023 09:28

If you go to 'labour for a republic ' Twitter , there is video of Trafalgar Square

Tabootle · 06/05/2023 09:28

KingSpaniel · 06/05/2023 09:24

@Tabootle i blame all of them - the government absolutely are to blame. But what angers me is that royalists paint Charles as an innocent party. He’s not. He’s as bad as the rest of them - up to his eyes in it.

He doesn't have much power at all, therefore no can't say I see him as bad as the rest of them.

SallyWD · 06/05/2023 09:28

MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

No I don't think it's anything to to with that. The country is simply very divided when it comes to the monarchy. Plenty of people ARE extremely enthusiastic about the coronation as you'll see from the crowds of people in London today. Many others don't give a 5hit! But it's been like this for as long as I can remember. Obviously it was different in the 50s or whatever but in recent years I've known a lot of people who are either completely not interested in the monarchy or staunchly republican.
Nothing to do with Charles being old!

Roussette · 06/05/2023 09:31

that's precisely why an area was pre-agreed which wouldn't disrupt the enjoyment of others, except that it turned out to be sheer entrapment

I'm running a book on how many times we will have to repeat this on this thread to Royalists today who will be talking about spoiling others' enjoyment.

I'm guessing maybe 20?

poppysockies · 06/05/2023 09:33

29000 police and 6 protestors. Like a butterfly on a wheel.

Exactly! So very few protestors, so what were they planning to do with the hundreds of placards on sticks? Attach them to the fencing and block the views of people wanting to watch the procession?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/05/2023 09:34

Republic is measured and intelligent in setting out its case ... I guess that is scary enough

A valid and important point, Novella. It's one thing to shut down an ill educated rabble and quite another to counter the arguments of those able to express themselves more rationally

Scary indeed for the more blinkered supporters ...

Novella4 · 06/05/2023 09:36

poppysockies · 06/05/2023 09:33

29000 police and 6 protestors. Like a butterfly on a wheel.

Exactly! So very few protestors, so what were they planning to do with the hundreds of placards on sticks? Attach them to the fencing and block the views of people wanting to watch the procession?

Repeating again

The protest area was pre agreed with the police

It is Trafalgar Square

They weren't blocking anyone's view

Is that clear enough ??

Novella4 · 06/05/2023 09:37

Look at 'labour for a republic ' Twitter

It isn't a handful of protestors

Republic asked people to register with them so they have an idea of numbers

vera99 · 06/05/2023 09:39

poppysockies · 06/05/2023 09:33

29000 police and 6 protestors. Like a butterfly on a wheel.

Exactly! So very few protestors, so what were they planning to do with the hundreds of placards on sticks? Attach them to the fencing and block the views of people wanting to watch the procession?

They hoped for more, but the weather will have put a lot of. As has been SAID BEFORE they had agreed with the police not to block anybodies view in a designated spot. A healthy state is one that tolerates peaceful dissent it's becoming very obvious we are anything but.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/05/2023 09:39

Roussette · 06/05/2023 09:31

that's precisely why an area was pre-agreed which wouldn't disrupt the enjoyment of others, except that it turned out to be sheer entrapment

I'm running a book on how many times we will have to repeat this on this thread to Royalists today who will be talking about spoiling others' enjoyment.

I'm guessing maybe 20?

I believe it's a case of not wanting to know, Roussette - not a viewpoint I understand personally since like yourself I'd rather know the facts to form my viewpoint

We see this all the time, as with the sneering at Norman Baker's frequently recommended book which monarchists often declare they "refuse to read".
Sad really, and I sincerely believe it'll change one day - but probably not in my lifetime