Cost of King Charles Coronation

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"Ar least £100m."

Well I for one would have liked a much lower party cost (do we need a grandiose new robe to go with it for instance?) and some of the money going to some of the teachers and nurses in the UK.

https://time.com/6275383/king-charles-iii-coronation-cost-taxpayers/?utmmedium=email&utmmsource=sfmc&utmcampaign=newsletter+brief+default+ac&utmmcontent=+++20230430+++body&et_rid=282490519&lctg=282490519

How can they possibly know this?

There have been many articles on the security. Just google.

8 billion, eh?
Can't wait to receive my share.

No, love, that isn’t how it works. If you want me to believe you, post a link to what you found when you googled like the rest of us do.

The fact is that there’s no reliable source for either the cost or potential economic benefit. Those figures will only be clear and reliable in a couple of months time.

Yes I remember when they cleared the homeless away for one of the royal events at Windsor… didn’t want them spoiling the camera shots

@Blossomtoes Yes there is. You always ask me and others to post links that are easily googable. I am tired of it. You never do the same yourself.

The coronation is likely cost about £250 million, including security costs. The huge security operation surrounding the coronation is set to cost around £150 million.
Elizabeth II’s coronation in 1953 cost £1.57 million, equivalent to around £50 million in today’s money.

So even without the security the Coronation is costing way more than Elizabeths.

Actually, I post supporting links all the time. I take great care to do so. If you state something as fact provide the evidence. If it’s “easily googlable”, why would you have a problem with it?

I am not your pa. I have spent lots of time over the last year googling links in response to your questioning even the most widely known facts.

The sad reality is that any event of this magnitude needs a ridiculous amount of security, the alternative is we never have any large scale events in London

Quite. And although the cost may be occasioned with so many Heads of State being invited, there is always the possibility that they’ve had to consider any possible repercussions caused by ill advised memoir wording in relation to an attendee.

And I’m not yours. Your figures are as speculative as everyone else’s. And your refusal to offer any evidence discredits them - and you - even further.

@Blossomtoes Google. You will just dismiss them anyway as they are not statements from the palace.
But having many Heads of States coming to the UK leads to greatly increased security costs. You do accept that we provide security from their plane to the hotel and then hotel to the abbey? It is not only Charles that needs protection.

You’re right it’s not. The point is, it could be diverted to things that really matter. The establishment choose to spend outrageous sums on themselves in various ways, having taken that money in tax from ordinary, struggling people!

No, it’s not only the King who needs protection. It’s also the tens of thousands of ordinary people who will be lining the route on Saturday.

The fact is that there’s no reliable source for either the cost or potential economic benefit.

Yes, this ^^ But that’s my issue, the cost of the coronation and who pays what should be transparent before the event. They’ve had plenty of time to do this.

One thing the RF do not want exposed is their wealth,income and expenditure. They're happy to change laws to benefit them in terms of inheritance, marriage etc but not to reveal their wealth. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/05/how-the-british-royal-family-hides-its-wealth-from-public-scrutiny

The RF personally reprimanded 91yr old Tim O'Donovan for keeping a tab on the engagements they attend which can be used to show how much time they spend in "service" in a year. Mind you, "service" or "work" isn't what anyone in the real world terms work. It's actually fun things commoners use their hard earned wages to pay for to attend or take time off work to attend. Eg elaborate dinners, lunches, parties, giving trophies at Wimbledon, opening new buildings, attending concerts, meeting celebrities etc. Unlike the average peasant who buys their own clothes, their travel ticket and makes their way there. These people have chauffeurs, personal staff, ladies in waiting, chefs, butlers etc who do everything including wake them up and pick their clothes. However, when discussing what they do it must be described as "work". https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/world/europe/uk-royal-family-workload.html

"Every year, Mr. O’Donovan releases a comparative table listing the number of engagements attended by the highest-ranking royals, setting off a flurry of barbed commentary in the British news media. The feeding frenzy comes because Mr. O’Donovan, intentionally or not, has effectively invented a metric of how much the members of the royal family work." https://whorunsbritain.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2018/01/13/mr-odonovans-annual-survey-of-royal-engagements/ You can see William and Kate did the least "work" aside two older members.

Here's a good clip every tax payer should listen to https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2023/may/01/cost-of-the-crown-part-1-valuing-the-family-podcast

Rents have also almost doubled in many parts of London. Many refugees from Ukraine and Afghanistan are still being housed in hotels.

Over what period have rents doubled? I very much doubt refugees are being housed in central London tourist hotels.

Shoelaceheaven I remember years ago my secondary school was a hub for DofE activities and the great man himself was visiting. A huge team came and tarted up our scruffy school with a lick of paint, dug new flowerbeds and filled them with flowers, and generally made the place look photogenic. We were all astounded when the next day they came back, pulled up all the flowers and left the school with bare earth. They didn't even replace the turf.

All so the good and noble man didn't have to damage his eyes seeing the crumbling school we went to.

He was a boring old fart anyway if I remember correctly.

Someone I know who lived in a very poor estate had the Queen personally visit her house for a cup of tea during a heavily filmed visit to the area. Beforehand staff came and painted the rooms in her house the Queen would enter and lent her a posh tea set.

Lent it to her - they should have let her keep it.

The Coronation will bring in far more than the price tag whether it is £100m or £250m. It’s at least a £1bn based on the bidding for TV rights. As it’s an official state function, the government is paying for it and gets all the profits. A return of 900% to 400% overnight is a great investment really.

The £100-250m is mostly spent on paying regular working people in London to participate in one way or another. Which is more than the royals get- they are participating for free. So we benefit that way.

Then the £1bn goes straight to the U.K. Treasury and it’s up to Parliament what it gets spent on. Not sure if Rishi is like Boris and his Boris Island or garden bridge madcap ideas, will have to see what he spends it on. Probably will go to funding the nurses lump sum pay out imho.

I would not call this a balanced assessment.

What can’t be denied is the massive volume of tourists in London today spending vast amounts of money - London eye - absolutely rammed, Belgravia shite hotels with people queued outside with their giant suitcases.

Utter tat being bought by the Americans (that I saw) restaurants and hospitality full. This is doing way better for the economy than anything else the govt have come up with in recent years!

Hopefully the increase in cash will boost the economy and be spent responsibly. That no one can guarantee though 🤣