Prince Harry’s Short Coronation Trip Is ‘Massive Diss,’ Friend of William Says

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Prince Harry’s Short Coronation Trip Is ‘Massive Diss,’ Friend of William Says

No doubt many will see Harry’s actions as an admirable demonstration of his devotion to family duty if he does choose this course of action.

In some quarters of Buckingham Palace, of course, running out of your dad’s big day to attend a child’s birthday party might be perceived not so much as a noble devotion to paternal obligations as an almighty “Fuck you!”

I found the a child line particularly disgusting, Archie is Harry's son, if he's leaving as soon as the coronation is over to make it in time for Archie's birthday, that's fantastic not something to deride by this so called friend.

Posting on MN every day is no way to live... 😂

But to be less flippant, I thought Harry's claim that his father and brother are 'trapped' was out of order.

They may feel trapped, in which case it is up to them to decide whether they want those feelings made public.

Or they may not feel trapped, but appreciate that their position has benefits and drawbacks (as do most people) and on the whole take the rough with the smooth.

You aren't a member of an Institution

I’m not a member of the royal family, no.

Which probably isn’t that surprising 😂

I imagine he knows far more about how his Father and Brother feel than you

...part of living within the Institution. It must fuck you up, whether that is Kate, Harry or William. It's no way to live a life.

I think this what we keep coming to in the Press threads - it’s a gilded cage and a poisoned chalice. Can’t at all be easy for any of them.

Maybe he does, but if his father and brother don't want to make their feelings public it wasn't his right to do that.

And maybe, just maybe, his perception of their feelings is filtered through his own feelings of being trapped, which he has made clear (and had every right to make clear).

After all, he has made clear that 'his truth' should not be held to the standards of objective truth. It may be more accurate to call it his 'perceptions/beliefs' than 'truth'.

I imagine he knows far more about how his Father and Brother feel than you

You'd assume so but then I have family who insist I must feel things or think a certain way when I don't because they assume or it suits their agender.

One thing I picked up from Prince Harry's book and interviews was his lack of agency - he waits for other's to sort things out and it doesn't seem to occur to hm he can do things and in that respect I think Meghan is a good match for him.

I wonder if he assumes everyone else is like that - posters all the time insist because they have experience of x happening no one can have y experience - whereas his brother and father may have better understanding of pros and cons to their fairly unique position not least because I think the direct heirs have tended to get more tutoring in the constitution and general preparation for the role.

Though I think it's also fair to say as Prince of Wales King Charles did push at some of the political limitations and his frustrations with that have been reported in press at times.

You'd assume so but then I have family who insist I must feel things or think a certain way when I don't because they assume or it suits their agender.

Plus I think it highly likely that Charles and William have had times when they are frustrated and fed up with their role. They are human beings.

I have times when I am frustrated and fed up with work, and like a good moan as much as the next person. But, overall, I recognise that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. I would be very annoyed if someone close to me put out pubic statements about my feelings about my job - especially very one-sided comments to suit their own agenda.

public not 'pubic - I would be VERY annoyed about pubic statements 😂

Harry clearly has no clue what his father and William feel about their lives. Only they do.

If Harry had any true insight into his family he would have realised all the hurt and damage he has caused and just STFU. Instead he goes on and on about his victim hood

But you are not Harry and your family are not his.

King Charles and Prince William have told you this have they🤔
I love how random strangers on mumsnet think they know more about ow the royal family must feel.about Harry ,then Harry,humself.

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The point that not all family members accurately know what other family members think or don't misrepresent them for other reasons isn't negated by it not being my family it was a general observation FFS with my family being an example of such.

None of us know if Harry actually has any idea what his family thinks.

Given his tenuous grasp of provable truths and his general behavior towards them personally clearly I have my doubts about his accounts of their views.

And, as I have said, even if he is 100% correct in his perception of their feelings, it is not for him to make them public.

And of us know that if he does either .

There are two aspects to this:

• Harry has no right to make his father and brothers private thoughts and feelings public
• Harry's perception of his father and brother's private thoughts and feelings is not necessarily accurate

You keep addressing the second point, but ignoring the first.

Yes - we don't know how accurate what he is saying is - that's what I said in the first place .

Him being family you could argue and you did gives him insight - I said that may be true and it may not be.

Personally I have my doubts - but they are just that my doubts and everyone else is able to evaluate how good a source he actually is for themselves.

Is the same 'friend' who said the William, Kate and other Royals won't speak or acknowledge Harry if he comes to the waste of money party Coronation.

Harry has no right to make his father and brothers private thoughts and feelings public

That's an argument I haven't addressed either - but Harry made a lot of private things very public with little concern about how that's affected other's.

@x2boys Can you read? I said no one knows except William and his father. I don't presume to read someone's mind. I don't know. Neither do you or any one else Including harry

Regarding making feelings known publicly, both Harry's parents did that to great effect! They talked in interviews and books about theirs and each other's feelings. At the time both caused a great stir but many years have passed since. So they will for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

William hasn't said anything out loud but his buttoned up demeanour speaks volumes at times. I do like him and the Duchess very much but they really have bought into the 'firm'.

Regarding making feelings known publicly, both Harry's parents did that to great effect! They talked in interviews and books about theirs and each other's feelings. At the time both caused a great stir but many years have passed since

I'd have said they cause great damage to the monarchy and their own reputations that the palace has had to work years to repair and it still lingers.

I also suspect William having a front row seat to not only the divorce but also the resulting media war his parents waged and how the media behaved with his wife probably means he has a very strained relationship with media and very probably wants to give them as little ammunition as possible while also using them to get good PR for the RF.

Harry is free in that sense he doesn't have to care about RF media profile or keeping RF popular enough to continue the current status quo.

@x2boys well, your user name didn't come up on the drop down list, so perhaps you have changed it?

Please let us know where you stand on Harry sharing his father and brother's private feelings - assuming Harry is correct - to the public?