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Prince Harry’s Short Coronation Trip Is ‘Massive Diss,’ Friend of William Says

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tatalan · 21/04/2023 13:21

Prince Harry’s Short Coronation Trip Is ‘Massive Diss,’ Friend of William Says

No doubt many will see Harry’s actions as an admirable demonstration of his devotion to family duty if he does choose this course of action.

In some quarters of Buckingham Palace, of course, running out of your dad’s big day to attend a child’s birthday party might be perceived not so much as a noble devotion to paternal obligations as an almighty “Fuck you!”

I found the a child line particularly disgusting, Archie is Harry's son, if he's leaving as soon as the coronation is over to make it in time for Archie's birthday, that's fantastic not something to deride by this so called friend.

Prince Harry’s Short Coronation Trip Is ‘Massive Diss,’ Friend of William Says

A pal of Prince William tells The Daily Beast relations between the brothers are “so bad they are nonexistent,” but William would be happy for his father that Harry was attending.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harrys-short-coronation-trip-is-massive-diss-friend-of-william-says

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notanotheroneagain · 23/04/2023 12:31

Coxspurplepippin · 22/04/2023 17:28

Then why mention it at all. It's shit stirring on a grand scale. Make an airy accusation - someone was mean to them, don't say who, don't say how, cast everyone under suspicion. Say his father said bad things about Meghan but don't say what. So everyone assumes the absolute worst. It's like the drama llamas on Facebook with their 'you know who you are and what you said, pm me hun'.

I don't know if Harry is lying or exaggerating, but they do have history of hanging on to minor grievances and blowing them out of proportion.

We don't know what, if anything was said, but obviously notanotheroneagain believes it to have been heinous, so the damage is done. How about you look at it through a different lens for once - Harry cast half baked aspersions, watched the dirt stick. You can't make these sorts of statements and not be aware of the damage they do. It's a very mean way of doing things

Basically, you sound like you are saying H&M must just take the flack without explaining that yes, bad things were said within the family and there was lack of support, that is why we are here now.

No need to say what the exact words were. But this way, we know it's more than just 'they did not like the bad publicity, that is why they left', and MN's favourite lie 'they did not like the job'.

Coxspurplepippin · 23/04/2023 12:40

'Basically, you sound like you are saying H&M must just take the flack without explaining that yes, bad things were said within the family and there was lack of support, that is why we are here now.'

They can say what they like, but if they're not clear, have form for inaccuracies and muddying the waters, who's to say their grievances in this instance are legitimate.

Considering they did a hatchet job on Kate because, heaven forfend, she didn't want to share her lip gloss, it's perfectly possible the 'bad things' would be considered mundane by most. They've done so much back pedalling over previous accusations it's difficult to take any further accusations seriously.

vera99 · 23/04/2023 13:24

That lipglossgate was the last straw for me after that republicanism all the way. 😀

Viviennemary · 23/04/2023 13:27

They were wrong to make accusations on the Oprah Winfrey show. It cast suspicion on everyone. Now they've more or less said it wasn't the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh and now not Charles. This accusation forced William to say the next day the royal family weren't a racist family. I don't think he will get over that in a hurry.

mixedrecycling · 23/04/2023 13:35

vera99 · 23/04/2023 13:24

That lipglossgate was the last straw for me after that republicanism all the way. 😀

These threads get so bat-shit I am not entirely sure that you are joking... given you have posted extensively about your republican views, I assume it's a joke, but who knows? 😂

Viviennemary · 23/04/2023 13:41

mixedrecycling · 23/04/2023 13:35

These threads get so bat-shit I am not entirely sure that you are joking... given you have posted extensively about your republican views, I assume it's a joke, but who knows? 😂

Lending lipgloss is totally gross. Imagine putting somebody in that embarrassing position. Rule - dont ask as refusal could offend.

Lampzade · 23/04/2023 13:42

PreparationPreparationPrep · 21/04/2023 14:55

He can't please everyone OP. If he had stayed longer it would have been a different problem.

2 days - 3 days, 1 week. He has a life elsewhere now, so is popping back for the family event.

Going back early for your sons birthday is a very good reason. He is here for the main event, that is good enough!

H&M should continue to do what works for their family.

Exactly
Some people will have a problem with whatever they do so they may as well do what the fuck they want.

mixedrecycling · 23/04/2023 14:03

Viviennemary · 23/04/2023 13:41

Lending lipgloss is totally gross. Imagine putting somebody in that embarrassing position. Rule - dont ask as refusal could offend.

I would with DD, apart from that, no thanks.

I've worked in the USA for a couple of short term contracts (NE USA). Then in South Africa for a year that turned into over a decade!

It is difficult to move to another country and culture. You have to be pretty resilient and accept that customs and understood ways of interacting will be very different - it will be a few years before you can start to gauge whether someone is being deliberately unfriendly or you are breaking the usual social rules without meaning to. Even after 10 years in SA I was never completely sure, but by then I had some good friends who I could talk to and they could explain.

Also, however welcoming people want to be, you are fitting in with their established lives. They have their family, friends and routines. It takes time to create genuine friendships and your own circle of people you choose to be with - several years is realistic. Until then you have to be quite emotionally self-sufficient - not because anyone is being mean, but just because you have chosen to leave all your friends and routines behind and start again, and it is not something anyone can do for you.

Moving back to the UK meant doing some of it in reverse, in that all my friends had moved on with their lives, and often moved geographically. On the other hand, I was coming back to my culture of origin, so making friends and fitting in was a lot easier than the other way round.

I get the feeling Meghan (and Harry) had unrealistic expectations, and didn't take enough time to allow reality and their shared assumptions to collide (as they inevitably do when you make a huge change), and then work through what that means and make a more informed decision based on reality.

4plusthehound · 24/04/2023 14:04

Coxspurplepippin · 23/04/2023 12:40

'Basically, you sound like you are saying H&M must just take the flack without explaining that yes, bad things were said within the family and there was lack of support, that is why we are here now.'

They can say what they like, but if they're not clear, have form for inaccuracies and muddying the waters, who's to say their grievances in this instance are legitimate.

Considering they did a hatchet job on Kate because, heaven forfend, she didn't want to share her lip gloss, it's perfectly possible the 'bad things' would be considered mundane by most. They've done so much back pedalling over previous accusations it's difficult to take any further accusations seriously.

As long as MM and Ph are the headline there is no focus at all on the fact that Camilla Parker Bowles will be Queen.

Hmmmm

4plusthehound · 24/04/2023 14:08

Viviennemary · 23/04/2023 13:27

They were wrong to make accusations on the Oprah Winfrey show. It cast suspicion on everyone. Now they've more or less said it wasn't the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh and now not Charles. This accusation forced William to say the next day the royal family weren't a racist family. I don't think he will get over that in a hurry.

But at the same time the family had no Black people working for them even though they are Head of State for a considerable amount of Black people.

Bias there certainly is/was.

Since that debacle therange of people at the receptions and in pictures has completely changed. I think we can all agree there.

For the better.

So - maybe that was not such a bad conversation to start.....

4plusthehound · 24/04/2023 14:15

Viviennemary · 23/04/2023 13:41

Lending lipgloss is totally gross. Imagine putting somebody in that embarrassing position. Rule - dont ask as refusal could offend.

For God's sake. It comes across as so bloody petty.

Lip gloss is a few pennies worth when the PoW wealth is factored. If you do not want to share lip gloss let MM keep the bloody thing. She will have an assistant floating somehwere with seconds of everything. A quiet word from an assistant later can sort that out easily enough.

It shows the PoW in a really bad light - uptight, tight, petty, and rank pulling.

I was so disappointed in her. Escpecially as she went through that ritual of public hummiliation too.

polkadotdalmation · 24/04/2023 14:19

It's quite rude and poor taste to ask someone for a personal item like lip gloss.

polkadotdalmation · 24/04/2023 14:20

Even more rude to put it in some muck raking book to make your wife look like a victim of someone's snobbery

Livingwitheyesclosed · 24/04/2023 14:32

It’s a bit odd that Meghan couldn’t organise to take her own lip gloss to a major public event . I do think it was rude to ask to borrow Kates. They weren’t best mates. They were virtual strangers and one was far more senior. I would just never ask to borrow something like that, even from a friend.

Viviennemary · 24/04/2023 14:39

I disagree. I am not royal but I wouldn't lend my lip gloss to anyone, it's basic hygiene nothing to do with being snobby

Samcro · 24/04/2023 14:39

so terrible!! meghan asks to borrow lip gloss and puts some on using her finger.
I really can't see the problem with doing that. Kate is her SIL not a stranger.

Livingwitheyesclosed · 24/04/2023 15:53

I don’t think Meghan had married Harry at that point . They barely knew each other.

Coxspurplepippin · 24/04/2023 16:25

Samcro · 24/04/2023 14:39

so terrible!! meghan asks to borrow lip gloss and puts some on using her finger.
I really can't see the problem with doing that. Kate is her SIL not a stranger.

It's a no-no, surely. Kate could have had a cold, Meghan could have not washed her hands recently. Surely in a TV studio there were make up people floating around who would have had a lip gloss.

'It shows the PoW in a really bad light - uptight, tight, petty, and rank pulling.' If you think this, you're as bad at making mountains out of molehills as H&M. Plus Kate did lend Meghan her lip gloss.

If anyone was uptight, tight and petty it was Meghan, storing up a grudge about a ridiculously minor incident which should have been forgotten about in the moment, not rehashed for her husband's book years after the fact.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 24/04/2023 16:58

And Kate was pregnant at the time, even more reason not to share lipgloss.

Roussette · 24/04/2023 17:40

I think Meghan ought to be arrested for the 'lipgloss incident' to be honest.

Coxspurplepippin · 24/04/2023 17:53

Roussette · 24/04/2023 17:40

I think Meghan ought to be arrested for the 'lipgloss incident' to be honest.

Most recognise the utter triviality of the 'incident'. It's Meghan and Harry who have blown it so totally out of proportion, giving rise to doubts about Harry's claims that his father was disrespectful to Meghan - it could well be yet another perceived slight that most people would forget about in an instant, not hang on to, to rehash for years to come.

Roussette · 24/04/2023 17:54

If it's trivial like you say, why worry about it?

Coxspurplepippin · 24/04/2023 18:04

Roussette · 24/04/2023 17:54

If it's trivial like you say, why worry about it?

Oh, I'm not 'worried' about it at all - I just think it makes it all the more likely that accusations from Harry and Meghan against his family are based on little more than their obvious capacity to take umbrage at incidents most people would see as ridiculously trivial.

Roussette · 24/04/2023 18:17

Exactly. Very trivial.

8roses · 24/04/2023 18:21

If that’s the worst they could find to say about Catherine then she must be pretty nice! 😃

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