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The royal family

Public engagements fallen

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rattymol · 16/04/2023 10:41

Royal engagements have fallen from 3338 in 2014 to 2079 in 2022.
He Queen used to do more engagements even as a 90 year old, than her grandchildren.
Engagements falling by more than a third is significant. What is the point of them if they are not even going to do what they are supposed to do?

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BonnieGlasses · 16/04/2023 12:02

Number of public engagements is not the best/only way to measure the success of the 21st century royal family. What about social media analytics? They're going to reach many more people for much less effort that way.

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:06

We pay them a fortune so they can post photos of their family on social media?

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Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:08

That will be the new argument - no need to actually leave the comfort of the castle

Also much easier to manage with bot farms replacing engagement

And then they will wonder why they get booed and why the majority want rid

Walkabouts were dreamt up to try to re enagage an uninterested population.
That wheeze is failing and if the 'royals' cannot read the room re the cost of the con a nation and crowning Camilla I very much doubt they'll come up with anything to replace it

vera99 · 16/04/2023 12:09

rattymol · 16/04/2023 11:56

Viviennemary there are plenty of them. Sophie and Edward, Charles and Camilla, Anne, William and Kate, and the Kent couple.
But even without the Kent couple, are you really saying seven adults can't manage 330 engagements a year? And it is common for someone to do two or three engagements in one day.
That is only 47 engagements each.
There are plenty of them. They just don't want to do the job.

To be fair to them if I inherited huge wealth and got paid regardless I would seek to do as little 'work' as possible. For some strange reason I find Prince Edward the most pointless of them all - some sort of detoxified Prince Philip without the charisma rattling around in his 120 room mansion wondering what to do next. The ultimate spare as it were.

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:15

I understand why they don't want to do anything mundane like visiting a charity. Much nicer to go to Wimbledon and claim it as work.
But they are foolish. Support is decreasing

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rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:18

MrsFinkelstein you ask if people want a slimmed down monarchy. Yes if the money given to them is also reduced. But it is daylight robbery to argue you have slimmed down by doing less, but take the same amount of money.
But at the absolute minimum I would expect royal members to do at least as many engagements as an elderly woman, the queen, used to do. They don't.

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purpledalmation · 16/04/2023 12:20

There are fewer working royals to do the engagements. Nothing to see here. Move on.

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:22

Purpledalmation why do they still need to receive the same amount of money then. It is shared between working royals. Less people so surely they need less.
And why do younger members still do less engagements than the elderly queen did.

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Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:24

purpledalmation · 16/04/2023 12:20

There are fewer working royals to do the engagements. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Standard issue unblinking unthinking royalist response to any criticism of the 'royals'

KnittingNeedles · 16/04/2023 12:28

You're clearly not in Scotland, are you @rattymol ?

Masks were still legally required in Scotland until 18th April 2022. Many universities were online entirely in the 2021-22 session. Hospitals still demanding masks even now. Lots of language around "keeping safe" and caution etc.

So yes, 2022 still saw some restrictions because of Covid, and limiting mixing which could explain the decrease somewhat.

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:31

Masks were required in hospitals, the royals did not wear one when visiting.
But work life was back to normal. Charities were running services.
Royals were quite happy to mix at busy film premiers, but not at much smaller charity events.

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purpledalmation · 16/04/2023 12:33

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:22

Purpledalmation why do they still need to receive the same amount of money then. It is shared between working royals. Less people so surely they need less.
And why do younger members still do less engagements than the elderly queen did.

Maybe stop reading the daily Mail, and this type of shit won't bother you so much.

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:35

Purpledalmation why do all the unbridled royalists have purple in their user name?
Is it all one person who name changes? Or a secret sign of some kind?

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Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:36

I've asked this before too!

Phoebo · 16/04/2023 12:36

Can't say I'm a Royal fan, but you do realise that's about 8 people working everyday? Do you work every day OP, no weekends, no holidays?

Phoebo · 16/04/2023 12:37

rattymol · 16/04/2023 11:58

Sorry should have been 470 engagements a year each.

And there 365 days in a year ...

Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:38

But you'd have to check how they define an engagement

A 10 min phone call has been classed as an engagement
A round of golf was an engagement

nilsoften · 16/04/2023 12:41

Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:36

I've asked this before too!

I got caught out on a thread when I accidentally used an alias by mistake and fessed up to it. Still got the scars.

Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:44

@Phoebo
You don't have the 'gotcha' there that you think you do

Charles was the 'hardest working' in 2019 as he did 521 engagements

Wow - impossible based on your logic

But an average engagement is an hour and many as short as 20 mins, some just a phone call

Plus we know they have frequent long holiday breaks

Phoebo · 16/04/2023 12:49

Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:44

@Phoebo
You don't have the 'gotcha' there that you think you do

Charles was the 'hardest working' in 2019 as he did 521 engagements

Wow - impossible based on your logic

But an average engagement is an hour and many as short as 20 mins, some just a phone call

Plus we know they have frequent long holiday breaks

Still seems reasonable? I'm surprised they do any work at all, don't think I'd bother if I had all that money

Pixiedust1234 · 16/04/2023 12:50

Novella4 · 16/04/2023 11:29

@Pixiedust1234

Where do you read it was a suspended sentence ?

He got community service
He defended himself and admitted it ( he wasn't exactly hiding )

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-65276668.amp

Fair enough. I think I mixed the two up as I was surprised there wasn't a custodial sentence. It basically gives to the green light to hurl missiles at anyone, rich or poor, famous or not.

Novella4 · 16/04/2023 12:51

I've heard it all now

You do realise that they get £350 000 000 a year for this job ?

We aren't watching the kardashians

Though I can see the similarities

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:51

Engagements include a phone call.
Lots of engagements are only for twenty or thirty minutes.
When going abroad the queen often used to have seven engagements a day.

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rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:52

But less working members, then surely they should get less money.

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purpledalmation · 16/04/2023 12:52

rattymol · 16/04/2023 12:35

Purpledalmation why do all the unbridled royalists have purple in their user name?
Is it all one person who name changes? Or a secret sign of some kind?

Do you also go in for conspiracy theories with your accusations against me?

I'm a very lukewarm royalist. Like the tourism aspect, like the dressing up and all the parades. The rest...take it or leave it.

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