Why have Harry and Meghan chosen titles for their DC?

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I genuinely don't understand their reasoning behind them decision to make Archie and Lilibet Prince and Princess - they hate the monarchy, it drive Meghan to suicidal thoughts, in their doc they describe the commonwealth as Empire 2.0 etc etc.

Can someone please enlighten me?

@Lizzt2007 the decision regarding Zara & Peter Philips and Mark Philips titles were made specifically by Princess Anne, so that the children could thrive in their own right, and there was never any pressure on them to conform. They have benefited from it in all sorts of ways. This has been discussed openly by Zara.

It was a deliberate choice of Anne's, being the no nonsense, no drama, hardworking woman she is it is unsurprising. (I think it benefited Zara & Peter)

Good grief

Absolutely! Bad smell follows them!

I think the titles come through the male line. Thus Princess Anne's then husband Mark Philips declined a title so his children didnt get a title. But Princess Margaret's husband became Earl of Snowdon so her children got titles.

Prince Harry’s children automatically get the title of Prince/Princess. In exactly the same way all the children/grandchildren of the monarch does. Whether they choose to keep the title is up to the children involved. Nobody else (bar their parents).

Harry and Meghan chose to keep the titles their children rightfully received, by born to a Prince.

What’s the problem with that?

You've forgotten a little thing she made called the Archetypes podcasts, which were extremely successful and has nothing to do with the Royal family or titles. Also Harry has jobs at companies like Better up and others, again nothing to do with the rest of the family. They make their own money.

@michaelmacrae have you actually looked into Better up and what a con job it is? Read some reviews on the C Eo and how companies are charged outrageous prices. I have.

Meghans podcasts are nothing more than self advertising. She spends half the time talking about herself and turning it back to me me me. I've listened and couldn't stop laughing. Then to receive a never heard of award for them! Bet the second lot won't do so well financially as the novelty has well and truly worn off. Look at rotten tomatoes reviews

The Archetypes Podcast won Pop Podcast of 2022 at the People’s Choice Awards, voted by the public. The PCA’s have been going since 1975.

PCA

Amazing what money and slick PR gets you

The Gracie Awards recognize exemplary programming created by women, for women and about women in all facets of media and entertainment. They also acknowledge the individuals who have made inspirational contributions to the industry.
Named after the late Gracie Allen, the Gracie Awards acknowledge outstanding team leadership and individual achievement. The Gracies focus on women who are making positive change and who further the discussion of what a fulfilling career in media looks like.
The Gracies have been going for 48 years and are held at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles.

Winners of this year’s Gracie Awards include Christina Applegate, Meghan Markle, Ava DuVernay, Faith Hill, Amanda Seyfried, Danielle Monaro, Shelley Wade, “Abbott Elementary,” “Today,” “The Drew Barrymore Show” and “48 Hours.” Showtime’s “The First Lady” will be honored with this year’s Grand Award, an accolade that recognizes immense levels of effort and achievement in production.
Gracie Awards

Do you think, seriously, either of these opportunities would have been available to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex if they were plain old Harry and Megs living on a housing estate in Croydon/Merthyr/Dalkeith/Newtonabbey?

It's all down to their connection with the RF, all of it.

I bet Megan is wishing now she had played this differently as she would now have had a bigger role as the daughter in law of the King

It's all down to their connection with the RF
Harry is part of the royal family by birth. That’s not a ‘connection’, it’s who he is.

Giving Meghan an award is purely to give publicity to the award itself. They know it will be all over the media and give them huge free advertising.

Aye, and they're milking Harry's 'birthright' while not acknowledging it's why they have been given these opportunities.

Actually I was wondering this, I’m not quite sure she signed up for this. That this was the plan. It’s really gone horribly wrong.

Don’t get me wrong she was with harry and supporting him/enabling him, often making it worse with her half truths and accusations, but he’s clearly flying solo now and has been since spare came out and he started his media onslaught to promote it.

when I think back to that ridiculous statement they put out when they first left, about being new hybrid royals, making their own money and collaborating with the queen, and her then telling them no chance, and in her public statement saying she and her whole family sincerely hoped they’d now go and build a peaceful life, and the spiteful way they’ve behaved since that no, I wonder if either of them look back now and think they went too far.

If they’d played it different they could have had so much, they could have been so popular, still ran around with a listers, promoted causes and even done podcasts if that was their thing. Christ the queen even told Meghan she could continue to act.

now they’ve fuck all other than a contentious and divisive reputation, infamy, but are some of the wealthiest people on the planet. They got a fuck ton more than 13 pieces of silver. that’s for sure,

But I do wonder, if in their quieter moments, in their heads, if it was worth it. They got the money, sure, but I think, for Meghan at least, it was also about fame, respect and adoration and that ship has truly sailed.

for harry I don’t think it was about fame or respect, I think it was about jealousy and spite. He is lost and a mess. And there is no way Meghan can’t see that.

Hate to break it to you but Harry is Royal like it or not. His book was hugely successful because he is Prince Harry, not Duke of Sussex. If he didn't have the Duke title it would still have been a massive smash hit. Whatever he does in life is because he is Royal, you cannot separate him from that, it's in his blood.

Meghan may well have been doing podcasts with or without "royal connections". She was doing all sorts of stuff before she met H. So no, I don't think she got the chance because of royalty, she is someone who comes up with her own ideas and creates her own opportunities.

That’s very naive, it was hugely successful as he was selling the dirt on his family, if it was a mundane read about growing up royal and loving his family it would barely have scraped a notice. The reason so many folks read it was to see just how far he went. It was mega gossip on steroids.

people didn’t buy it as it was harry, people bought it as it was harry trash taking his family.

'His book was hugely successful because he is Prince Harry'

Well, indeed. As I said, if he'd been plain old Harry from over the road, he'd have had nothing to sell. As it is, all he has is dishing dirt on his family. if you think most people who bought his book did so because they supported Harry and wanted to read about his endeavours, you're kidding yourself. Supporters on here may have bought it for that reason or more likely because they're anti monarchy, but most will have done so to read scandal, the goss, the juicy bits.

Meghan may have been doing 'stuff' before she met Harry, but she didn't have the platform, the audience, the 'in', until she got involved with a member of the RF. Most of the opportunities that have come her way since marrying Harry wouldn't have been possible without the RF connection.

Would Oprah have wanted to interview them? Doubt it.
Would Netflix have produced the docudrama? Nope.
Would any publisher have given either of them the courtesy of a read through - well, possibly Meghan might have been able to shill a lifestyle glossy based on her website, but anything else? Really? In fact, would Harry have been able to attract a serious ghost writer if he was a squaddie?
Would they have been receiving 'awards' for their humanitarian work?
Would their charity/foundation have attracted any attention or donations?
Would Meghan have had podcast opportunities?

WAAAAGH!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Because they are twats

Money my pet money!!!

Because they can?

I also think Megan is setting Harry up in a way .. you would not let a man you love write and publicly say what he has said.. give it another 3 years and she start saying she loved him but couldn't cope any more with his mental health and his problems , he was so hard to live with ect .. I truly think it's going to end very badly for him and she will live off forever having royal children..again trying to Draw comparisons with Princess Diana

@Isiteveningyet For sure. That ship sailed, got hit by a torpedo and is lying at the bottom of the ocean 😂

Great post 😊