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Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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vera99 · 27/03/2023 09:58

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

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MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 15:55

PlanetLuna · 27/03/2023 15:28

“If he was doing it for the money he would have taken the payout like lots did.”

Yes. Exactly this @Roussette. This isn’t rocket science and the tabloids are the villains here, not Harry.

Honestly, it’s a struggle keeping up with the twisted pretzel logic required to demonise Harry for his courage in this situation.

Has ANL offered any settlements? I thought they were saying that the claims were out of time.

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 16:00

vera99 · 27/03/2023 15:33

There is a material difference between unconnected outsiders bugging and hacking third party communication which is illegal and a party voluntarily disclosing information about a connected party as Harry has done in Spare. Was it a wise or moral thing to do ? Probably not but once he had left the privileged bosom of the Royal Family well he has to eat and fed his family, so needs must. Have had a quick look through the US media they don't seem to be covering it like we are - maybe his fame has peaked ? I wonder where he is staying ?

There is a difference, I agree. Its much more hurtful to be betrayed by someone who you love and who you believed loved you than by some anonymous journalists.

Although I don't see why journalists and their families have to eat less than Harry and his.

Rhondaa · 27/03/2023 16:01

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 15:18

I think it's perfectly acceptable to condemn phone hacking and want the perpetrators to be held responsible and punished for invading peoples privacy, whilst, at the same time, condemning Harry for invading peoples privacy and spilling their personal secrets too.
I don't see much difference, other than Harry did it to people he says he loves. After all, they've all just done it for money and with no care or consideration of any personal consequences.

Exactly.

'Yeah but no but he was involved in the stories he was leaking' doesn't cut it really. It's the principle. He either agrees with gossiping behind people's back and sharing sensitive info with the media for loadsamoney or he doesn't.

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 16:04

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 15:30

Whenever someone writes about their own life and story, especially to defend lies previously written, they will end up talking about other people in their life. You’d have to be against biography’s and any mention of anyone else to have a go at Harry for talking about others in his book or interviews. He’s allowed to talk about how others treat him. Like Charles did when he said his mother wasn’t very present in his life and the school his parents sent him to was so awful.

Quite different to hacking phones and making up lies.

Talking about your own life is one thing. Revealing private details about, for example, the medical issues of others is nasty. I don't see the difference between that and hacking. They're both an invasion of privacy, albeit the invasion took place in person as opposed to over a phone.

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 16:04

Its much more hurtful to be betrayed by someone who you love and who you believed loved you than by some anonymous journalists.

yep, I am sure Harry has found that to be the case too.

704703hey · 27/03/2023 16:07

SweetCoriander · 27/03/2023 15:41

Rebekah Brooks admitted during the hearing that police officials had been paid off, and yet no legal actions followed! And Leveson II was cancelled by Hancock.

The Metropolitan Police, by any chance?

It's completely given me the shivers all of the recent information on the met. I know there are many decent police people but there seems to be too many rotten ones.

Their diseased WhatsApp messages about Nicole and Bibaa and others, rapists, thugs, inappropriate language. I still trust the police but am more wary now.

Rhondaa · 27/03/2023 16:08

'Talking about your own life is one thing. Revealing private details about, for example, the medical issues of others is nasty. I don't see the difference between that and hacking. They're both an invasion of privacy, albeit the invasion took place in person as opposed to over a phone.'

Yes it is revealing others people private info without their consent that is the problem. Just like tabloid reporters.

michaelmacrae · 27/03/2023 16:09

EdieLedwell · 27/03/2023 15:53

It's amazing to me that posters can't see the difference between Harry being hacked and bugged, and him talking about his life experience.

I guess you could say the Daily Mail's work is done.

Yes.

MsWhitworth · 27/03/2023 16:11

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 15:09

I think the government should be held to
account too, Matt Hancock in particular, for cancelling Leveson II.

It really makes you wonder what shady deals were done in return doesn’t it?

Some of the allegations in this case rely on material provided by Associated Newspapers to the Leveson inquiry.

Agree - it all needs to stop. All the behind the scenes briefings, leaks, trading favours. It all goes on between the press and politicians, the police, celebrities and royals’ PR people. It’s so toxic.

StormzyinaTCup · 27/03/2023 16:11

It's amazing to me that posters can't see the difference between Harry being hacked and bugged, and him talking about his life experience.

Dress it up however you like. He has had his privacy invaded, he clearly didn't like it (who would) and knowing what it felt like, he himself did exactly that, he invaded peoples privacy (and mocked them) for money. Hacking a phone etc is awful but so is making public personal details about your own family (inc your's and their own anatomy) for big bucks.

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 16:11

'Yeah but no but he was involved in the stories he was leaking' doesn't cut it really. It's the principle. He either agrees with gossiping behind people's back and sharing sensitive info with the media for loadsamoney or he doesn't.

Good try but the case is actually against alleged illegal behaviour such as phone tapping, listening devices, paying off policemen, obtaining financial information illegally.

Rhondaa · 27/03/2023 16:12

'It's amazing to me that posters can't see the difference between Harry being hacked and bugged, and him talking about his life experience.'

It's amazing to me that posters can see any difference between tabloids releasing private info for a pay cheque and Harold releasing private info of others for a pay cheque.

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 16:12

MsWhitworth · 27/03/2023 16:11

Agree - it all needs to stop. All the behind the scenes briefings, leaks, trading favours. It all goes on between the press and politicians, the police, celebrities and royals’ PR people. It’s so toxic.

Yep. And, more seriously, a potential threat to democracy.

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 16:13

michaelmacrae · 27/03/2023 16:09

Yes.

What's talking about his family's private medical issues got to do with him talking about his own life experience?

Harry has done the Daily Mail's work for them.

SirChenjins · 27/03/2023 16:13

Harry talking about his life experience is one thing - sharing personal information about others is a completely different matter.

If you have a problem with others invading your privacy then don’t sink to the same level.

PennyForearm · 27/03/2023 16:13

Gosh looking at his head from behind, Harry actually has less hair than William.

That spray on fluff at the top/front of his head looks awful.

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 16:16

PennyForearm · 27/03/2023 16:13

Gosh looking at his head from behind, Harry actually has less hair than William.

That spray on fluff at the top/front of his head looks awful.

Bum fluff. Literally. 😆

704703hey · 27/03/2023 16:16

Harry can be a complete pest and hypocritical but I'm with him on this.

The only people whose phones should be bugged are terrorists and that's state, not press. So for a rare moment, I am behind him.

Everyone deserves some privacy.

Samcro · 27/03/2023 16:17

so h takes part in an action against hacking and all people want to talk about is his hair and pubes.
mumsnet has become kidsnet.
I hope they win. no ones phones should be hacked.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 16:17

What private info did he release? Whose letters? Diary? Did he pay for photos of someone why they lay dying after a car accident? Even William said those photos ended up on the desks of editors in this country.

Why has this thread turned into a constant issue about Harry’s book and interviews.

Stephen Lawrence’s mother, Baroness Doreen Lawrence is also a claimant. Why isn’t this thread discussing what they’re accusing ANL of? Instead of trying to minimise this illegal behaviour by talking about Harry’s book?

Does anyone else think it utterly disgusting Charles & Camilla hired someone from the newspaper his son & daughter in law were suing? That he had sued before himself?

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 16:19

It's amazing to me that posters can see any difference between tabloids releasing private info for a pay cheque and Harold releasing private info of others for a pay cheque.

Its amazing to me that posters can’t see the difference between Harry recounting incidents and events that took place in his life, and journalists and private detectives paid by newspapers, allegedly breaking the law and hacking in to a phone, or a bank account to obtain information by illegal and fraudulent means.

For the hard of understanding it’s the illegal bit that the judge is interested in.

MsWhitworth · 27/03/2023 16:19

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 16:17

What private info did he release? Whose letters? Diary? Did he pay for photos of someone why they lay dying after a car accident? Even William said those photos ended up on the desks of editors in this country.

Why has this thread turned into a constant issue about Harry’s book and interviews.

Stephen Lawrence’s mother, Baroness Doreen Lawrence is also a claimant. Why isn’t this thread discussing what they’re accusing ANL of? Instead of trying to minimise this illegal behaviour by talking about Harry’s book?

Does anyone else think it utterly disgusting Charles & Camilla hired someone from the newspaper his son & daughter in law were suing? That he had sued before himself?

This!! Whatever you think of Harry, he is absolutely in the right on this matter and I’m amazed people can’t see/admit that.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 16:19

They allege ANL hired private investigators to put secret listening devices in their homes and cars and impersonated individuals to gain access to confidential medical information about them.
Other allegations include that people were paid to listen in on live telephone calls and record them, that bank accounts and other financial information were "accessed through illicit means and manipulation" — and that police officers were paid for private information. These officers are also alleged by the claimants to have had links to private investigators.

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 16:21

704703hey · 27/03/2023 16:16

Harry can be a complete pest and hypocritical but I'm with him on this.

The only people whose phones should be bugged are terrorists and that's state, not press. So for a rare moment, I am behind him.

Everyone deserves some privacy.

That includes Harry's own family.

704703hey · 27/03/2023 16:24

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 16:21

That includes Harry's own family.

I see this as being completely unrelated and I hope they win.

But yes he does go on a bit about RF in other areas :)

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