Wales Children in Coronation procession

[AskAwayAgain]

George, Charlotte and Louis will be in the Coronation Procession. A shame Archie was not invited to join them.

'Everything is a drop in the ocean'

So the £8bn spent on London Olympics, which didn't achieve the legacy expected wasn't worth it, the £2m annual Nye fireworks should be cancelled, because they're all 'drops in the ocean'? Would you say the same thing about a presidential inauguration?

They 'made' the money on the back of selling out the royal family. Do you think anyone would have been interested in their docudrama, books, interviews, if Harry wasn't the grandson of a monarch, son of a monarch, brother of a future monarch?

Hey - there's an idea, as Harry and Meghan have made so much money off the back of their rf connections, maybe they can pay for the coronation. Win/win.

Why is everyone so against Harry using his status to make money so they're not dependent on the royal purse? He's selling himself because people find it interesting enough to make his book the fastest selling non fiction book in history.

I doubt very much that Harry wants his children there. That's literally his whole argument!

They 'made' the money on the back of selling out the royal family.

Thats your perspective, I don’t share it. He’s allowed to talk about his life. The actual point, is you and I didn’t have to pay him that. Netflix did. What do you care what they pay for? Charles is spending an equal amount of our money on a party to celebrate himself.

Why is everyone so against Harry using his status to make money so they're not dependent on the royal purse?

Exactly. The entire family makes money from selling their family story in one form or another, a heavily edited and not very real version anyhow. They also do charity work alongside, but so does Harry. So I’m not sure why anyone has a problem with him making money of his own.

Yeah, he can talk about his life. But it still doesn't alter the fact that if he was Harry from number 24, no-one would pay 10p a copy for his book. Harry has made money rubbishing the institution that means he can make the money. Without the institution he makes such a point of damning he'd be nowhere.

Charles isn't spending money on a party to celebrate himself. The UK government are funding a ceremony for a head of state.

You may not want it. Many do. We live in a constitutional monarchy. You want to change that, then campaign peacefully for that change.

Umm maybe because he’s making money out of crapping all over his family? He also moans and whines constantly about what a victim he is when in fact he is in a very fortunate and privileged position.

£2m into £100m = 50 years of NYE celebrations for the people.

Skating over the £8bn there - 80 coronations, bargain!

Nah!

The £8bn on Olympics, I would have to look up if that was a waste of money.

Doubt it

We are trying to campaign. But the british public are force fed the royal story, hard to break into that.

The UK government are funding a ceremony for a head of state.

Exactly! Do we all want this?

Nope.

Not sure what you're saying here.....

That the Olympics didn't cost £8bn

That the legacy we were promised from such a large expenditure didn't happen

That £8bn divided by £100m isn't 80.

So are you saying the Olympics weren't a success? And it is equal to a coronation that not everyone wants?

I would love to have a poll of who would like £100M and your figure (which I haven't verified) of the Olympics and see which would be preferred

'We are trying to campaign. But the british public are force fed the royal story, hard to break into that.

The UK government are funding a ceremony for a head of state.

Exactly! Do we all want this?

Nope.'

I'm never sure whether republicans realise quite how disdainful and dismissive they come across. Do you believe everyone who quite likes living in a constitutional monarchy are what? Thick? Lacking? Right wing?Perhaps it's no wonder your efforts aren't making much headway.

Of course not everyone wants a coronation ceremony, but there are many who do. Not acknowledging that perhaps puts you on the back foot before you even start pushing for a republic.

Without the institution he makes such a point of damning he'd be nowhere.

Nowhere? So if you’re not born royal you have nothing? What a load of rubbish. He IS royal. That’s his cards and he’s entitled to determine his own future if he wants. He’s not enslaved to you. Why moan he makes money for himself? His life is his life. If he wasn’t born royal he’s have had way more freedom. I know I’m glad I wasn’t born into that family. I would not want that life. Harry’s or theirs.

Quite a lot of people were against the Olympics - waste of money etc etc. So yes, just like a coronation not everyone wants. And a lot more expensive.

It's quite easy to verify the figures. Lots of info online.

I suppose it's a bit late, over ten years after the fact, to do a poll 'which would you prefer? £8.000bn spend on the Olympics or £0.0125 bn on the coronation.

Charlotte is the spare, and they are all 3 likely to be lifelong working royals who will spent the next 80 - 100 years in the public eye.

Archie will be a private citizen like Andrew or Edward’s kids.

Louis is a year older than him, has some experience of this sort of caper, and will have George and Charlotte with him.

Archie would be a 4 year old, surrounded by people he doesn’t know from Adam, doing bizarre things he won’t understand. It would be pretty scary.

Where have I called you thick, lacking or right wing?

Not once

BUT there is a different point of view

'Where have I called you thick, lacking or right wing?'

Thanks for that

Good!

As long as you realise that wasn't me calling you that!

We are all entitled to a view. I respect yours, despite it might be different to mine.

'BUT there is a different point of view'

Which I have acknowledged many times. Unlike many republicans who treat anyone with a differing viewpoint as somehow lesser.

So are you saying the Olympics weren't a success? And it is equal to a coronation that not everyone wants?

Not everyone wanted the Olympics.

I certainly wouldn't want the football world cup.

Interesting!

Nrtft because I can’t be arsed reading the media fuelled shit, but I don’t think Archie and Lilibet should be in the procession, they are the children of the Duke and Duchess o& Sussex not The prince of Wales. They should absolutely be included in anything else King grandchildren related.