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AskAwayAgain · 2023-03-24T00:54:51+00:00

George, Charlotte and Louis will be in the Coronation Procession. A shame Archie was not invited to join them.

PeekAtYou · 24/03/2023 15:39

WhoStoleMyTiddyOggy · 24/03/2023 15:23

Goady post OP

Yep.

Archie's parents have tried to maintain his privacy by minimising his appearances in the media. They were rightly never going to suddenly push for him to participate in the ceremony given that it will be heavily televised, photographed and commented on. Plus OP
is making a massive assumption that Archie is the sort of personality who wouldn't find things boring or overwhelming. Many kids would rather be anywhere else than somewhere formal and full of strangers (apart from his parents)

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AskAwayAgain · 24/03/2023 15:41

MrsFinkelstein · 24/03/2023 14:47

Camilla's grandchildren are teenagers, and will just be taking on the page roles traditionally done by godchildren/nieces/nephews/friends children.

IMO it's entirely proper they be included.

We don't know in what respect the Wales children will be involved. It may well be just following their mother in and then leaving early (Charles was only present for a short time at his mother's coronation).

Louis had a HUGE amount of criticism for his (perfectly normal age appropriate) behaviour at the Jubilee. It was really unfair, and no child should face that. Archie & Lilibet are far too young and have zero experience of that kind of attention. I'd frankly think less of their parents for wanting anything more than a brief balcony appearance for them.

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But there is no balcony appearance for Archie. The Sussex children are not invited at all.
I do not have an issue with Camilla's grandchildren being involved, I have an issue with the double standard. And it is typical second family behaviour.

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PeekAtYou · 24/03/2023 15:42

wordler · 24/03/2023 15:34

Charlotte gives me 'the serious middle child' vibes, as well as being a typical rule following girl between two brothers. She 'corrected' Louis a couple of times during the Jubilee in typical bossy older sister style. With George she seems to remind him gently - once during the Jubilee to put his hands straight by his side during the national anthem and during the funeral you could see her saying something like "when the coffin comes you bow".

It's nice that they have each other inside the craziness of their situation.

Apparently, the daughters of George Bush were really welcoming and lovely to the Obama sisters when they did the changeover of the White House between them and gave them loads of advice. Even when their parents are politically different it looks like the children of sitting presidents have a bond that unites them because they've all been through a rare and intense experience that no one else really understands.

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Chelsea Clinton (not sure if she has her husband's surname) has defended Barron Trump too.

Kedece2410 · 24/03/2023 15:45

But there is no balcony appearance for Archie. The Sussex children are not invited at all.
I do not have an issue with Camilla's grandchildren being involved, I have an issue with the double standard. And it is typical second family behaviour

But even if the Sussexes attend they're not going to be on the balcony either. Other than the Wales its going to be working Royals only.

The children will be there as children of the heir not grandchildren of the monarch

Ishouldbeoutside · 24/03/2023 15:47

AskAwayAgain · 24/03/2023 15:41

But there is no balcony appearance for Archie. The Sussex children are not invited at all.
I do not have an issue with Camilla's grandchildren being involved, I have an issue with the double standard. And it is typical second family behaviour.

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You have no idea at all of Archie was invited. He may have been. It isn’t even clear of H and M are going to be there. It may be they have decided not to come and don’t want Archie involved in a ceremony propping up the Institution’ they despise and have ridiculed publicly.

Samcro · 24/03/2023 15:50

PeekAtYou · 24/03/2023 15:39

Yep.

Archie's parents have tried to maintain his privacy by minimising his appearances in the media. They were rightly never going to suddenly push for him to participate in the ceremony given that it will be heavily televised, photographed and commented on. Plus OP
is making a massive assumption that Archie is the sort of personality who wouldn't find things boring or overwhelming. Many kids would rather be anywhere else than somewhere formal and full of strangers (apart from his parents)

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wordler · 24/03/2023 15:53

AskAwayAgain · 24/03/2023 15:41

But there is no balcony appearance for Archie. The Sussex children are not invited at all.
I do not have an issue with Camilla's grandchildren being involved, I have an issue with the double standard. And it is typical second family behaviour.

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OP - you keep saying both 'news reports', 'articles', or people on Mumsnet are reporting that the Wales' are doing this, the Sussexes are doing that or not doing that. It doesn't matter what 'royal experts' and randoms on the internet are guessing. At this point no one knows what any of the children are actually going to be doing.

At this point the only official announcements have been this:

There is going to be a ceremony with some members of the royal family present.
There is going to be a procession with some members of the royal family involved.

Everything else is rumour and speculation - all the articles say things like 'expected to' etc. The palace has not released any statements about who or who has not been invited in respects to the Sussex family.

A spokesperson for the Sussexes has said that they had received some information by email but have not confirmed their reply - no mention of the children but doesn't mean they have or have not been invited, or they are or are not going.

From The Guardian:

"A spokesperson for the Sussexes said: “I can confirm the duke has recently received email correspondence from His Majesty’s office regarding the coronation.
“An immediate decision on whether the duke and duchess will attend will not be disclosed by us at this time.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/05/harry-and-meghan-have-been-invited-to-coronation-spokesperson-indicates

Here's the government's official Coronation site. If you can't find the news on there then it's all speculation at this point.

https://coronation.gov.uk/

Here's the only official statement released by the Palace:

https://www.royal.uk/coronation-weekend-plans-announced

Harry and Meghan have been invited to coronation, spokesperson indicates

Duke and Duchess of Sussex yet to confirm attendance at crowning of King Charles III in May

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/05/harry-and-meghan-have-been-invited-to-coronation-spokesperson-indicates

BasiliskStare · 24/03/2023 15:55

@Kedece2410 - Yes -

George and siblings may be on the balcony as children of the heir. Only senior working royals will be on the balcony. ( as has happened before. ) I will bet a shilling to a pint of oranges Camilla's grandchildren get nowhere near the balcony. So I don't really understand the double standards comment ( not from you from OP )
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wordler · 24/03/2023 16:02

BasiliskStare · 24/03/2023 15:55

@Kedece2410 - Yes -

George and siblings may be on the balcony as children of the heir. Only senior working royals will be on the balcony. ( as has happened before. ) I will bet a shilling to a pint of oranges Camilla's grandchildren get nowhere near the balcony. So I don't really understand the double standards comment ( not from you from OP )
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I'm fairly critical of Harry and Meghan's behaviour in recent years, but I would be fine with them on the balcony along with Camilla's children and grandchildren. Honestly a blended family image with the King and Queen and their four children and ten grandchildren surrounding them would be a very powerful image.

So either that - all immediate family of the King and Queen.

Or, one with all the current working royals, plus they heirs kids.

It would be lovely even if they didn't do the balcony if they did a King and Queen with their ten grandchildren photo.

VixenTodd · 24/03/2023 16:57

George obviously has to be there. Charlotte and Louis don't but the public can't get enough of them. There aren't any other kids that have to be there who the public really want to see there.

QuintanaRoo · 24/03/2023 17:36

But there is no balcony appearance for Archie. The Sussex children are not invited at all.
I do not have an issue with Camilla's grandchildren being involved, I have an issue with the double standard. And it is typical second family behaviour.

has Charles rung you up and told you this? I’m just curious how you know so much, seemingly more than the press? Even if it’s true (and it possibly is) I thought the rule was working royals only on the balcony now? Charles supposedly wants non working royals to not have such a prominent position which is fair enough.

and it isn’t typical second family behaviour - if that was true then William and Kate wouldn’t be there either! Harry and Meghan are the ones who have moved away and clearly stated they do not wish to be part of the Royal Family.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 24/03/2023 17:37

OP - you keep saying both 'news reports', 'articles', or people on Mumsnet are reporting that the Wales' are doing this, the Sussexes are doing that or not doing that. It doesn't matter what 'royal experts' and randoms on the internet are guessing. At this point no one knows what any of the children are actually going to be doing.

This^ I think you're just shit stirring OP.

magicthree · 24/03/2023 18:34

AskAwayAgain · 24/03/2023 11:49

How do you know that? Children are individuals and some would love this, some would hate it.
And Charlotte and Louis have never done anything like this. Sitting with your parents on a balcony or a crowd at football is a very different experience.

I'm actually struggling to see what this has to do with you OP. Why do you even care who is in the procession?

MrsFinkelstein · 24/03/2023 18:56

I would no issue with the balcony appearance just being limited to Working Royals only.

I would also not have an issue with a brief bigger appearance with all of the wider family. Its the 1st coronation in 70 years after all.

I can see why that wouldn't happen, as Andrew would then feature - and I don't feel that would be appropriate.

BasiliskStare · 24/03/2023 19:07

@MrsFinkelstein & I think this is the fine line which having to be trod.

So I am sure Charles wants his younger son there , but younger son has rather thrown his toys out of the pram in a very public way . Andrew - well let me not go there.

When it comes down to it - the Coronation is a State occasion , and as I said before it is an odd situation because of our constitutional monarchy. ( which I do know many disagree with ) . But until we get rid of it this is how it works. So there are family members , there are working family members but this one occasion is a state occasion.

I imagine this is a diplomatic nightmare for BP & KC

purpledalmation · 24/03/2023 19:27

They will look so cute. I think even Louis will behave himself :-)

Roussette · 24/03/2023 20:51

purpledalmation · 24/03/2023 19:27

They will look so cute. I think even Louis will behave himself :-)

I wouldn't want to put that on my 4 year old. What pressure.

Plitvice · 24/03/2023 21:02

Since Charles is stubbornly forging ahead with this at vast expense, I do hope he lives long enough to justify the expense. Given his age, he should have logically kept it low key and saved the bling version for William and Kate.
We certainly don't need a second expensive coronation within the same decade, not to mention royal fatigue.

Roussette · 24/03/2023 21:04

Plitvice · 24/03/2023 21:02

Since Charles is stubbornly forging ahead with this at vast expense, I do hope he lives long enough to justify the expense. Given his age, he should have logically kept it low key and saved the bling version for William and Kate.
We certainly don't need a second expensive coronation within the same decade, not to mention royal fatigue.

That is interesting.

A low key coronation has not happened. I don't get it to be honest. I have posted too much on what I think it should've been, so won't go there.

The Queen was young and served 70 years, what are we going to have with Charles? Who knows

milti · 24/03/2023 21:25

@roussette quick register office ceremony and back to bp for pastie and peas 😂

Coxspurplepippin · 24/03/2023 21:26

Plitvice · 24/03/2023 21:02

Since Charles is stubbornly forging ahead with this at vast expense, I do hope he lives long enough to justify the expense. Given his age, he should have logically kept it low key and saved the bling version for William and Kate.
We certainly don't need a second expensive coronation within the same decade, not to mention royal fatigue.

It's not interesting , as per Roussette, it's downright horrible. It doesn't matter if Charles is king for 3 years or 30 years. You seem to be pretty gleefully predicting his imminent death. Which is distasteful.

£100m in the general scheme of things is a tiny drop in the ocean. You might not want a coronation ceremony but you don't speak for everyone. The UK's failed bid to host the 2018 world cup, and this was just the bid, was £22 million. For a failed bid.

The coronation has been pared back, it's going to cost 0.00083% of annual govt expenditure. If it doesn't happen, the NHS isn't some how going to be able to slash waiting lists, people's energy bills aren't suddenly going to drop by 75%.

And just as an aside, the £100m seems to be a figure close to that which a certain couple are rumoured to have made by sales of various docs/books/interviews. awaits comments that this thread is about the Wales children and no-one else should be mentioned.

purpledalmation · 24/03/2023 21:32

@Roussette He'll be 5 or near enough. I doubt any 5 year old has a clue about 'pressure'.

Roussette · 24/03/2023 21:34

£100m in the general scheme of things is a tiny drop in the ocean.

Everything is a drop in the ocean

And just as an aside, the £100m seems to be a figure close to that which a certain couple are rumoured to have made by sales of various docs/books/interviews

Well done them!

Roussette · 24/03/2023 21:36

purpledalmation · 24/03/2023 21:32

@Roussette He'll be 5 or near enough. I doubt any 5 year old has a clue about 'pressure'.

Anyone who has had a 5 year old knows about pressure on Mum even without the cameras of the world on them and Mum!

Whaeanui · 24/03/2023 21:39

And just as an aside, the £100m seems to be a figure close to that which a certain couple are rumoured to have made by sales of various docs/books/interviews.

Yes, they made that money whereas Charles is spending an equal value of our money on a party. I’m not sure it makes the point you think it does.