Should Harry attend the coronation?

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I say NO.

Why put himself through it? His family is too cold and not just because of his actions or what has revealed. I think they have always been that way.

Besides, it will also be Archie's birthday.

Or, he could get a commentating job? Him and say Paul Burrell dishing the dirt and breaching everyone's privacy. Lovely. Maybe they could have Markle Senior on as a guest and they could discuss the subject they both have in comomon of when you're disowned for gossiping about your family.

Andrew isn’t selling stories about rhe monarchy and telling private stuff about them for money, I’m sure Andrew could tell a tale or two. But he isn’t. And never has.

What Andrew is accused of his heinous, no one excuses it. But it’s a very different animal to selling bitchy little stories about your family whilst desperately wanting the benefits of being royal brings.

it’s not a competition between them. One doesn’t excuse the other. They can all be awful humans in their own way

There's always somebody who says this, but if you read the book he does actually provide some specific instances, private conversations with his father and brother which have mysteriously appeared in the press, a letter he was asked to write by KC parts of which then appeared in the papers, William releasing a statement from the "two" of them, which Harry didn't know about and wasn't a part of. Whether it was courtiers or the family we'll probably never know but I'd be effing annoyed too.

Of course he'll go. He needs the Royal gigs to earn his grubby salary from his US sponsors and enablers

i think this is a key part of it. They will desperately want to come and be seen to be there and a key player but they will really want to avoid clips of them being booed, heckled or laughed at going viral globally. It damages them even further and let’s face it it’s going to happen.

so it’s down to what do they want more , are they so desperate to appear relevant and leverage their titles, that they front up or are they desperate not to be publicly booed and shunned.

I think they will plump to go. They need those titles and links to the royal,family to be seen as relevant.

Andrew isn’t selling stories about rhe monarchy and telling private stuff about them for money, I’m sure Andrew could tell a tale or two. But he isn’t. And never has

Don't speak too soon, there's talk of a book or an interview.

I will expect hundreds of threads if so 😂

Its all about faaaammmiiilleeeee.
Who cares if you rape a sex trafficked teenager or get involved in dodgy financial deals, as long as you protect the family and stfu.

Tbf, there were a lot of threads about Andrew's last interview! Unfortunately (for the gossip mongers) he only did one interview, and unfortunately (for justice) he paid off his accuser rather than face a court. So the whole thing died down too quickly for it to generate as many threads as H&M.

Personally, I am looking forward to the coronation regardless of whether they go. A nice day with family watching the ceremony and seeing the outfits, plus a bonus day off work.

I started quite a few of the Andrew threads. I think there was only one that reached 1,000 posts. At times it was like tumbleweed on there!

And it wasn't just about the court case as it happened, there was a big lead up to it all.

I don't know why he would want to, I don't really care either way, but why would he want to put himself through it. I think there is a very real risk they will get boo'd by the public, which would be hurtful and upsetting for anyone. His family are probably still very upset with him and will not be very welcoming. Why bother? unless he wants to use the experience as something to complain about in the next book.

Oh don't worry @Roussette as soon as there is movement there is discussion.

I am interested to see where he ends up living. For a long time he generated no discussion but he's back in business now, looking for money, looking for a role, genuinely ''bewildered'' by his lack of billions.

One of the big differences with Andrew is that basically everyone agreed. Where an issue is controversial it will generate more discussion (so longer threads) than a non-controversial one. Uniform outrage from everyone doesn't last as long as people arguing with each other over something relatively minor.

Andrew is a straight-up baddie. He is a symbol of everything that is wrong - rich white man gets away with terrible things. But everyone agrees, and there's only so many times you can say the same thing over and over while everyone is nodding along. It gets boring. Plus, I strongly suspect that there are those in the media who want everything to do with Epstein completely forgotten, lest their own part in it comes out.

H&M are a different kettle of fish because sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong. But, unfortunately, most people picked a side early on and refuse to budge. So they keep arguing with people who picked the other side. And the media are desperate to keep stoking the fires because they don't want the legitimate criticisms of their behaviour to be the focus.

Yeh, I agree, when there was fodder for discussion it was certainly discussed.

@JemimaTiggywinkles so true! Everybody except Lady Victoria Hervey

There were plenty of people defending Andrew.

And the media are desperate to keep stoking the fires because they don't want the legitimate criticisms of their behaviour to be the focus

Well... they may regret this because Harry is pursuing his case against the DailyMirror for phone hacking (along with others). Good on him.

H&M are not awful humans. you might not like what they have done, but its not in the same league as A. Yet just because he stays quiet(and doesn't even talk to the FBI~~~~) pays off the victim, he is is allowed to live in splendour.

Well I would think Netflix will be wanting some of their $100m investment back if they don’t go. Also, they need more material to complain about.

im not pro the royals at all, but I wouldn’t speak to someone if I knew that everything I said was going to be sold to the highest bidder.

@samcro He stays quiet because he knows which side his bread is buttered. Millions to spend, a life of luxury, servants at his beck and call, currently living in a 30 roomed 98 acre estate, his brother paying for 24 hour security costing possibly £300K a year, his ex wife of 27 years kept in luxury too.

He is far more deceitful about taking all of this and doing nothing.

Of course Harry will go. Not sure Meghan would go as on Archie’s birthday but am sure she will. Doria and/or a nanny will be minding the kids in London anyway.

At least 3 of the PA threads reached 999 posts in a short space of time and there were plenty more well into the hundreds, pretty much universally condemning him and his behaviour. If he does do the incredibly stupid thing of doing more interviews I'm sure there'll be plenty more threads. As it is, we've heard nary a peep for ages so nothing to talk about.

Not universally condemning him at all. Lots of minimising and making excuses and lots of lies about the law and how Andrew did not break the law anyway.
You do know we can look at these old threads and see that what you are saying is simply not true?

I just know how quiet some of the threads were. Even when there were developments.

Good post.

I've just been back and looked because I thought there'd been a lot of threads/posts, not just one that didn't fill up. The main threads were numbered too. Most of the posts are condemning him. There are some pointing out that he hasn't been convicted of anything, and there was no criminal trial, also pointing out that no-one knows how much he paid out in the civil case. This, of course, is true. Whether you think that's beside the point or not is another matter.

Before I get accused of defending the indefensible, I think PA is an arrogant tosser with dubious taste in friends at the very least, who appears to have milked his position for all it's worth ( not much now, obviously) and once called out showed himself to be a whinging man child incapable of introspection and self reflection.

Of course he should come if he wants to , the king is still his father