Charles gives Andrew’s his marching orders (finally)

[Rinoachicken]

metro.co.uk/2023/02/19/prince-andrew-fears-eviction-from-mansion-as-king-slashes-grant-18307307/amp/

Interesting.

Wills was reported to have been eyeing up Royal Lodge a while back but Andrew holds a seventy five year lease on it which is presumably fairly watertight outright eviction-wise.

Having the rug pulled so he can't pay the bills is a game-changer though. I reckon Willy's measuring up for curtains as I type.

Will Andrew not have inherited a significant amount of money from both his parents when they died?

@Gingerkittykat presumably. But I think that’s the point. Charles has saying he now has to use that money (his own money) for anything he wants/needs.

So he’s going to have to make that money last for his lifetime, to fund his and Fergie’s lifestyle, plus if he’s hoping to pass any to his daughters.

Apparently the repairs and maintenance required to Royal Lodge are not minor, and may run into the millions. Andrew is not prepared to spend his own money on it (even if technically he could afford it), therefore he needs to move out.

He’s going to have to live elsewhere and pay his own way from now on, including any staff, whatever Fergie wants/needs etc. As it should be.

I think the terms were that he has to pay for the upkeep and he can't afford it.
He'll have to apply to Kensington&Chelsea council for a room in a hostel 😉

So basically, Andrew used to be subbed by his mother from her private money but his brother won't be doing that with his. So it's down to him to use his own money to do it. And because we don't know how many millions he actually has, we don't know how that leaves him regarding affording upkeep of the RL. So he might be able to afford it. We don't know.
So many things we don't know.

Bloody good job. I hope Charles carries through with this. The article says "Sarah is distraught".... well, given she swans around in the grounds of 98 acre Royal Lodge making pathetic cheesy clips for her Mills & Boon books, perhaps it's about time the 26 years divorced ex member of the RF found somewhere else to live?

What about the £7million town house she bought in Mayfair last year? They can both sod off there if they want to carry on living together.

I don't think William and Kate will take it - I think they'll end up in Windsor Castle itself within the next couple of years.

He hadn’t been given his matching orders. The linked to article is just gossip and speculation.

Hardly, Will and Kate have Windsor Castle.

Yes he will have inherited money But he won't want to use it on something as mundane as living expenses. Perhaps a netflix deal or whinefest autobiography is an answer. Certainly worked for Harry.

Is that the one that cost 4.2 million and was bought for her by her daughters (without a mortgage) and can’t be sold unless they both sign papers allowing the sale.

I read an article in the press today that was apparently backed up by paperwork.

I read it cost £7million, that's what all the news reports say but happy to be corrected. She bought it from the Duke of Westminster. I haven't seen anything saying her daughters bought it... but as I say, happy to be corrected if so.

Buy hey... what's a few million between friends... any which way, there's no reason why they can't live there. One daughter lives in Portugal and the other in the Cotswolds. So I believe anyway.

Don't know what the problem is with Harry making money away from the Royal Family as long as we as tax payers don't have to fund them. He hasn't got any skills so if selling a few stories on his family is how he makes it then so be it. What he has actually revealed isn't any different from what happens in most other families. The only problem is that the royal family want to keep their mystique so us common people think that they are above us and most on MN don't have the intelligence to realise that unfortunately.

Things go on in all families. They do in mine. My children know private things about me. I know private things about my parents. Nothing scandalous or illicit but things we'd all like to remain private. And because we are kind and respectful people and don't use "I love my family" as a insincere platitude, I honour my parents privacy and my children honour mine.
Despite not having your searing intellect, most MN have the decency to recognise instinctively that him revealing the private details of his family whilst moaning about his own privacy being invaded is hypocritical in the extreme.
It's not about families thinking they're above others or having mystique (lord knows, there's no mystique in the Melrose clan), it's just expecting a fundamental respect of other other people's rights and disappointment if a family member fails to treat you with the courtesy they themselves expect to be treated with.

Maybe Charles wants it back as a bribery present for Harry and Meghan?

"It's just expecting a fundamental respect of other other people's rights and disappointment if a family member fails to treat you with the courtesy they themselves expect to be treated with."

Maybe he felt that Meghan wasn't treated with the courtesy and respect by W and K that they expected for themselves.

I totally agree with you.

I wasn’t disputing it. I was wondering if it was the same one I read about today. And it’s not.

Nope. The royals take advantage of sovereign to sovereign transfer and consort to sovereign transfer which means no inheritance tax.

So Philip will have left everything to the Queen and her to Charles.

There were likely trust funds and the likes set up, but they mostly rely on the next monarch being as generous to them as the last.

@MarshaMelrose

I assume your surname isn't Mountbatten Windsor.

When your family is an 'institution', a pillar of the state, the focus of I tense press amd public attention, and its leading member fulfills a constitutional and ecclesiastical role in the realm that is theirs, you expect the family to conduct themselves according to certain standards. When the family falls short of those standards, it's in the public interest to call shame. Why should manipulation of the press and all the rest that Harry has described go unremarked?

And if the Queen bankrolled Andrew to the tune of a quarter of a million every year, does that mean she also forked over the money he is reported to have paid to settle the civil case against him? Did she pay for his lawyers - the lawyers who worked to keep him from facing his accuser in a court of law?

Disgraceful, if so.

Ahhh ok 🙂👍

There's some very interesting stuff in Norman Baker's book "And What Do You Do?" about the RF and in particular Andrew's finances, and some rather more up to date stuff in Tina Brown's "Palace Papers".

Yes, he had to pay Virginia Giuffre $12m (or was it £?) but that was largely financed by a. selling the Swiss chalet and b. Bank of Mum, allegedly. He got £15m for selling the awful "Southyork" house that ER2 gave him as a wedding present. Fergie got very little when they divorced. I'm not clear on whether the £249k pa that the article mentions was in addition to the money he got from the Sovereign Grant or if that was it.

He is in a very awkward position with no real way of making a living, but he is an appalling, entitled boor (at the very least) so my agony on his behalf is, shall we say, livable-with.

My heart bleeds for him. Imagine having to cope with only 10 rooms instead of 30, no swimming pool, and only a couple of acres instead of 98. I just can't imagine how anyone can cope with such poverty and deprivation.