Page 3 | Charles gives Andrew’s his marching orders (finally)

MarshaMelrose · 19/02/2023 20:00

Dripping jewellery. Oooo, I do hope so.

Lizziet64 · 19/02/2023 20:18

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2023 20:20

I think he is a good guy

Nothing could be fairer, Marsha; I very much respect your view but we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one

Shame about the satin breeches though; for a chance of seeing that I might almost have watched it ...

ToffeeNotCoffee · 19/02/2023 20:35

What 75 year lease ? Don't believe everything you read in the papers. It's grace and favour accommodation which was granted in the Queens lifetime when the Queen Mother died.

It's really for working royals......

Lizziet64 · 19/02/2023 20:42

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Badger1970 · 19/02/2023 20:42

It's far more fitting for William and family to live there, and be afforded more privacy than the apartments within Windsor Castle would allow them. It is a bit that Andrew lives more like a King than the heir to the throne does.

ToffeeNotCoffee · 19/02/2023 20:45

It's a clever way of getting rid of Andrew, i.e. make him leave of his own accord. Personally I'll enjoy seeing how he copes in the, 'wild' especially at his age !

I wonder if him or Sarah has been looking at possible accommodation choices on Rightmove ?

Did Charles wish Andrew Happy Birthday today ?

Sarah has been riding Andrew's coat tails for years. I think it's hilarious that the pair of them are contemplating their own futures now. It defies belief that this has come as a surprise !

If their daughters have purchased a million pound address in London for their mum, which I very much doubt as they both have families of their own now. It seems they want to see their Mum alright. As for their Dad....

Well, perhaps he'll end up riding his ex-wife's coat tails.

OutofEverything · 19/02/2023 20:52

Badger1970 · 19/02/2023 20:42

It's far more fitting for William and family to live there, and be afforded more privacy than the apartments within Windsor Castle would allow them. It is a bit that Andrew lives more like a King than the heir to the throne does.

You mean the apartment with a rumoured 40 rooms plus their other three houses? You are right they must really struggle for privacy.

CathyorClaire · 19/02/2023 20:54

Hardly, Will and Kate have Windsor Castle.

Eh?

Last I knew they had Adelaide 'Cottage'. They don't get the keys to the castle until Daddy keels over.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 19/02/2023 20:54

ToffeeNotCoffee · 19/02/2023 20:35

What 75 year lease ? Don't believe everything you read in the papers. It's grace and favour accommodation which was granted in the Queens lifetime when the Queen Mother died.

It's really for working royals......

He has a lease. Similar to what Edward has for Bagshot.

FurAndFeathers · 19/02/2023 20:54

mathanxiety · 19/02/2023 17:02

@MarshaMelrose

I assume your surname isn't Mountbatten Windsor.

When your family is an 'institution', a pillar of the state, the focus of I tense press amd public attention, and its leading member fulfills a constitutional and ecclesiastical role in the realm that is theirs, you expect the family to conduct themselves according to certain standards. When the family falls short of those standards, it's in the public interest to call shame. Why should manipulation of the press and all the rest that Harry has described go unremarked?

Because this thread is about Andrew.
perhaps focus on the problems of his conduct - you have a smorgasbord to choose from!

pristinesurfacesGBTD · 19/02/2023 20:58

notholdingon · 19/02/2023 16:14

Don't know what the problem is with Harry making money away from the Royal Family as long as we as tax payers don't have to fund them. He hasn't got any skills so if selling a few stories on his family is how he makes it then so be it. What he has actually revealed isn't any different from what happens in most other families. The only problem is that the royal family want to keep their mystique so us common people think that they are above us and most on MN don't have the intelligence to realise that unfortunately.

Isn't it lucky we have you to keep us reliably informed

mpsw · 19/02/2023 21:09

Brefugee · 19/02/2023 19:14

Andrew was in the navy for quite a few years, surely he has a pension? you claim military pensions when you turn 60, usually

Yes, he did 22 years, and retired with rank of Commander

So yes, pensionable (and with that length of service probably passed his pension point some time ago)

But it was reported that the Wales princes (as they then were) both drew their salary (too much of an embuggerance to do otherwise) but donated it in its entirely to veterans' charities. I have no idea if Andrew did the same with his pay or does the same with his pension

Brefugee · 19/02/2023 21:10

I can't imagine that he donates it, we'd probably have heard about that already if he did.

OutofEverything · 19/02/2023 21:12

It is reported that Andrew gets a pension of £20,000 a year. Very little for his tastes.

CathyorClaire · 19/02/2023 21:13

What about the £7million town house she bought in Mayfair last year? They can both sod off there if they want to carry on living together.

Yes.

Fergie has allegedly been on the brink of bankruptcy more times than I can count yet always escapes with a bound. She's the grifter's grifter and it's worth remembering that Epstein had more numbers for her than even for Andrew listed in his little black book.

Ad for those citing the sale of the ski shack as the source of funds. That was mired in much financial controversy delaying the sale and it's only very recently finally gone through. Fergie and assorted hangers-on sons in law were using it as recently as this time last year.

GrumpyPanda · 19/02/2023 21:32

Badger1970 · 19/02/2023 20:42

It's far more fitting for William and family to live there, and be afforded more privacy than the apartments within Windsor Castle would allow them. It is a bit that Andrew lives more like a King than the heir to the throne does.

Can't believe the servility on here!

Honestly, it would be much more appropriate for the place to be used for a suitable public purpose rather than as a private residence. They used to hold academic conferences there before occasionally. Very austere conditions, a bit like a gigantic, terribly outdated B&B. But atmospheric.

SqueakyDinosaur · 19/02/2023 22:26

All this about Charles wanting to be financially prudent and so on is a bit rich if you read up on his own tastes, not to mention the number of houses he owns.

William is now PoW and that means he gets the Duchy of Cornwall estate and whopping revenues. He did a course in estate management a while back at Cambridge.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2023 22:33

All this about Charles wanting to be financially prudent and so on is a bit rich if you read up on his own tastes, not to mention the number of houses he owns

I don't think it's ever been claimed he wants to be "financially prudent" with himself - just other people

As with "slimming down the monarchy", which AFAIK has come from others rather than Charles himself, the end result could well mean he'd be able to enjoy even more of the spoils

Coronateachingagain · 19/02/2023 23:01

Let's face it, Will and Kate's four bedroom cottage is good for PR but just a holding place. They will not be long where they are and there must be a planned path ahead. Maybe they also wanted to try Windsor, new school etc before they commit.

BreadInCaptivity · 19/02/2023 23:37

Coronateachingagain · 19/02/2023 23:01

Let's face it, Will and Kate's four bedroom cottage is good for PR but just a holding place. They will not be long where they are and there must be a planned path ahead. Maybe they also wanted to try Windsor, new school etc before they commit.

I agree with that. It's hardly slumming it either.

It's a very, very spacious 4 bed home and they also have extensive apartments at Kensington (and Anmer as their "country residence").

It's a bit like "normal" families having a small flat close to work to cut the commute whilst having a home elsewhere, plus a holiday cottage.

The reality is the RF own/rent a lot of property - far more than necessary.

Charles in particular is "bad" for this as he's shown no signs of giving up "his" properties as POW whilst also inheriting from his mother.

To be fair to H&M whilst their £17m home in the US is excessive in many people's opinion, it's a drop in the ocean compared to the property other royals live in/own/lease.

Monzeitia · 20/02/2023 06:54

😂😂😂 well she is so intelligent and we are well, dumb apparently because we don’t go around trashing our own families for money, the justifications from some “intelligent” people to make us believe that the circus that H has created is what all families do, get’s better as the days go by, I rather prefer to remain dumb in that case

MarshaMelrose · 20/02/2023 07:04

mathanxiety · 19/02/2023 17:05

And if the Queen bankrolled Andrew to the tune of a quarter of a million every year, does that mean she also forked over the money he is reported to have paid to settle the civil case against him? Did she pay for his lawyers - the lawyers who worked to keep him from facing his accuser in a court of law?

Disgraceful, if so.

Everyone is entitled to defend themselves. It's a basic tenet of UK law. Lawyers don't work for free - someone has to pay them. His accuser could have faced him in court if she wanted to. She preferred to take the money.

I don't see why TQ, PA, VG or the lawyers have behaved disgracefully. They all just followed the law.

MarshaMelrose · 20/02/2023 07:14

mathanxiety · 19/02/2023 17:02

@MarshaMelrose

I assume your surname isn't Mountbatten Windsor.

When your family is an 'institution', a pillar of the state, the focus of I tense press amd public attention, and its leading member fulfills a constitutional and ecclesiastical role in the realm that is theirs, you expect the family to conduct themselves according to certain standards. When the family falls short of those standards, it's in the public interest to call shame. Why should manipulation of the press and all the rest that Harry has described go unremarked?

He had one complaint. He believed they leaked stories about him and Meghan. That's what he wants them to acknowledge. Leaving aside whether that actually happened or not, he didn't just keep his narrative to that point. He revealed personal, including medical, and private information about members of his family who he professes to love. That's an invasion of their privacy - ironically, his biggest and constant complaint against the press.

Roussette · 20/02/2023 07:15

The reality is the RF own/rent a lot of property - far more than necessary.

Indeed. 27 at the last count. Here's a picture showing where some of them are. Estates, Palaces, Castles and the odd cottage. Map doesn't show the ones in NI.

Some of these places are massive and I think they should be given back to the public...
What family needs 120 room Mansion for instance? (Edward & Sophie rattling around in there).
It's all a bit obscene.

Cue Royalists coming on and saying... what should we do then, let them go to rack and ruin? No. There would be plenty of ways they could be put to good use, to make money and give back, to help others, to allow the public to see inside them, etc.

Charles gives Andrew’s his marching orders (finally)