The woman Prince Harry lost his virginity to steps forward

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11713609/Im-older-woman-took-Harrys-virginity-Digger-driver-Sasha-Walpole-40-comes-forward.html

This is v common- you’re contacted by a tabloid who tell you they’re running the story anyway and offer you the choice of cooperating (for some control) or not (no control)

They don't even need anything like a full story to do this ... the less reputable ones will hash together some nonsense and "invite" the subject to give their side, hoping they'll spill details which the "journalist" couldn't be bothered to find out for themselves in the first place

The whole thing reminds me of the part in Grease where Danny and Sandy are singing about their summer fling in the song Summer Nights. Danny's recollections vary significantly from Sandy's. Danny brags about a sexual liaison to his posse while Sandy recalls an idealised relationship to her girl pals.

While Sasha isn't romanticising her fling like Sandy did, she does recall that there was an actual friendship beforehand. Meanwhile Harry's version is a teenage boy's lurid hyper-sexualised account, with no emotional backstory.

Eventually, the tale becomes the truth to the teller of the tale.

I do wonder whether Harry has conflated 2 sexual encounters into one more interesting one. I completely believe Sasha's fairly unremarkable account (the only really interesting part is that she had sex with a prince). Harry has had a number of relationships with women who can properly be described as "older women". Who knows why, whether he was looking for a mother figure in them and how being with them made him feel? In any event, it sounds like at least one of his older woman encounters made him feel a bit unhappy and maybe a bit used. Melding two encounters makes for a a bit of a saucy/controversial/funny story, as opposed to the mundane and perhaps grubby reality of the individual encounters, but his feelings about the episode with the older woman of the book encounter might be genuine. And of course, feeds the victim narrative that he is constantly taken advantage of and is hard done by. I wonder if the encounter Rupert Everett is hinting at is the real losing virginity story, and that when he was with Sasha, he was not a virgin, but still very inexperienced?

What did Rupert Everett say?

That (paraphrasing dear Rupe here) Harry is full of shit with the 'behind the pub' story.

I agree @Ridemeginger although regardless of whether they were significantly older than him, his account is still misogynistic & unacceptable. Clearly embellished by whoever ghost wrote it for him & made more salacious but he had final say surely.

Really making me think that this man really does have a problem with telling the “truth”. Whether it’s trauma based as has been suggested by him I think (convenient) or that he’s just a bullshitter, it’s really becoming apparent.

Which makes me think that for all her faults, whatever information he’s been feeding Meghan regarding his life & family members, is equally likely to be unreliable.

Hence, possibly, the discrepancy between their accounts of the timing of the colour of Archie’s skin comments that they in the Oprah interview contradicted each other on.

Does he say one thing to her & then change it without even realising?? And then passes it off as “his truth” regardless?

Not exonerating her role in any of their dealings & her agenda but she’s maybe started to realise….

He’s damaged by traumatic experiences most definitely but nonetheless seemingly full of shit.

@Ridemeginger I think you could well be right. It does sound like a conflation of events. If he was drinking heavily at 16 and also a cannabis user, god knows what he remembers accurately.

His minders must have been absolutely crap, and I'm including his family (not his teenage brother) in this.

His minders must have had a bloody awful time with him judging by the little that’s leaked out. The comment that “he’s a bit of a handful tonight”, suggesting that it wasn’t unusual, and his assault of them on at least one occasion make me think they had a pretty thankless task.

Wonder if he exaggerated how much older she was to make it harder for the press to find out her identity, trying to protect her. Or is that giving him too much credit lol.

Way too much credit.

😂

He just wants to sound like the poor hapless victim again.

Nah, I think in this case he was actually bigging it up.

At 16, 3yrs is a humongous difference.

A 19yr old is an adult who can buy cigarettes, alcohol and possibly vote?
A 13yr old is baby who is still looked after by mum.

The woman is mentioned in 3 lines out of a 400 page book. Passed me by without notice.

While I can see how a young man (then with no dc) could make a big deal about his todger issues (he only mentioned it in a total of about 5 lines throughout the book), I do find it funny how fixated some pervy middle aged and pensioners seem to be on it online and the media.

This woman did not have to out herself, and frankly, she sounds like she wished it was her.

What would be funny is if she took all that cash from the rags (I hear it ran 5 pages or something?) and the real woman and H are laughing their asses off.

What a non-story.

'At 16, 3yrs is a humongous difference.

A 19yr old is an adult who can buy cigarettes, alcohol and possibly vote?
A 13yr old is baby who is still looked after by mum.'

3 years at that age isn't humongous. She was barely 19, he was nearly 17 so it's closer to 2. Not sure where the 13 year old comes into it.

Your reflections on the woman involved are pretty misogynistic. But Harry, eh? What a guy......

Erm, 13 is 3yrs younger??????
So, I'm showing that either way, to a 16 yr old, 3yrs sounds like a lot?

The woman gets a vague mention. No one expected H to be a virgin when he dated Chelsea/Cress/MM.

Well, if Harry had been having sex with a 13 year old, there'd be a considerable amount to worry about, for sure

What a non-story.

And yet you felt the need to revive a thread that hadn't been posted on since yesterday just to say it was pointless and that you thought she was lying...

@notanotheroneagain A nearly 40yo father-of-two decided to include those datils about his sexual experiences because of what? Is he justifying why he ended up marrying an older woman?
Would you put those details in your expensively crafted account of your life aimed at a global audience?

She was barely 19, he was nearly 17 so it's closer to 2. Not sure where the 13 year old comes into it.

I was thinking this.

Sex at 16 - while younger than my experience was about normal for my peers - and yes within 2 years of age was also fairly normal in my peer group - as that tended to be sort of age range within social groups.

DH grew up in area were under age drinking was rife - and IL were very lax - he was regularly out with mates drinking and buying well before 16 - my area underage drink was rare but drugs according to local police it was as bad as nearby cities.

I have seem some US comments about at how young 16 is for sex and drinking- but being 40ish in UK seems plausible to me plus Harrys really must have known including this anecdote would get the press tracking down this person - he has been one complaining about the way the press behave.

Americans have a totally different culture to the U.K. when it comes to drinking, remember that. They really wouldn’t relate well to this at all, whereas it’s not unusual here.

Between teenagers of 17-19 this really isn’t that unusual a way to lose one’s virginity, either - a bit drunk, fancy someone a bit, go in for a kiss and end up with a bit of an awkward fumble! Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

The nasty tone some posters are using about this woman is disgusting tbh and I really cannot stand it.

This woman totally did not have to out herself.

She was some side character in Harry's circles that no one would consider. His description was so vague, most people thought he was talking about a really older woman (possibly in her 20s/30s/40s etc).

I don't think anyone generally speculated on her at all. Out of all the people close to him, I doubt anyone thought of her.

Out of all the people close to him, I doubt anyone thought of her.

So you think she's lying about the whole thing then so she can have 5 minutes of fame? Which begs the question why do you think she didn't come forward in the 20 years prior to the book...

You clearly don't understand how the press here works. The fact that she’s talked about it means they’d already worked it out/found her and/or were very close to going to print with the story. You sound more and more silly the more you insist that you know better.

This woman totally did not have to out herself.

The press was openly trying to track the “mystery woman” down, though. That’s what they do. Hence why Liz Hurley publicly stated it wasn’t her.

And, given the photoshoot and interview that was published, it is walking, talking and quacking like a tabloid blackmail duck. Which, if you didn’t know, is a common technique tabloids use. They tell the subject of the story that they have uncovered that they can either co-operate and give the paper an exclusive, with a friendly piece and nice photos, or they’ll publish anyway with candid photos and no filter on what they say. Plenty of celebrities have spoken about being backed into corners like this.