The woman Prince Harry lost his virginity to steps forward

[OntarioBagnet]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11713609/Im-older-woman-took-Harrys-virginity-Digger-driver-Sasha-Walpole-40-comes-forward.html

You sound as lovely as Harry. Blaming everyone else for his mistakes.

I think there are a few possibilities here. It could well be that both stories are true in that the drunkest pub episode happened (which it probably did) and that something happened abroad as well. Obviously, only Harry knows which one was him losing his virginity and why he decided to put one particular story in his book. Another possibility is that RE is blowing smoke out of his arse and just mischief making. Or RE is talking about something else entirely 🤷‍♀️

she'd told her friends and one of them blabbed to the press, otherwise they wouldn't have come after her

Yes it's definitely her fault for telling her friends about it, not his fault for publishing it for the world to see and speculate on. The press wouldn't have been able to come after her had he not written about it. And they might not have bothered if he'd told the truth instead of dressing jt up as some humiliating encounter with a dominant older woman.

The mental gymnastics are entertaining to watch though. You'll be saying next that she's breached his privacy by revealing the identity of his first lover 🤦‍♀️

I doubt anyone ever gave his virginity a thought (I know I certainly didn’t) so he really didn’t need to go into the crass details he did. If he wanted to allude to it he could have just said he lost it to a female friend when a teenager and to protect her privacy he won’t divulge more than that. It’s not as if the public have been on tenterhooks all these years wondering about it.

Not what I was saying crap but crack on with your assumption.

I was speaking in general.

I think my idea of what truth means and what others think it means vary.

And you are right he didn’t identify her. But he said enough to narrow it down and several people were put in the frame rather unfairly.

You also don’t know if her friends blabbed.

Teenagers do questionable things sometimes. Oft put down to age and drink.

But Harry was of the impression that we were all agog as to how and when he popped his cherry (though Rupert’s recollection varies on that). He has lived a colourful life - his first time as a stallion didn’t matter in the big scheme of things.

Teenagers may do daft things. Adults should know better than recount them if it may bring others into it unwittingly.

She kept quiet about it for years. Years. (As did the friends she supposedly blabbed to) Her hand was probably forced in my opinion.1

And I reckon the whole sorry debacle would have stayed in the field but for someone tooting his own flute.

I think I read somewhere. that Meghan just wanted someone kind. As do we all I think.

She got something other than kind.

There was a circle of friends there is no reason to to believe that she was alone in telling friends. Harry can not be considered shy when spilling other’s privacy. He also said there was a possibility of them being overlooked. Others being precious about his privacy and judgemental on her behaviour just need to remember he is the catalyst who left the breadcrumbs to more than Sasha front door.

Older woman?? She is two years older than he is. Absolutely ridiculous.

To me it sounds like he knew she was vulnerable so got her drunk and got what he wanted. Not very pleasant.

If he was just a few years older - 18 not 16 - I'd say it sounded very like predatory behavior as he that young it does sound more like a drunken embarrassing teenage mistake.

Given his version of the story she’s very forgiving.
I think she taken the moral high ground and it's very well pitched stab to restore her reputation.

She wasn't a predatory older woman but a drunk upset teen pretty much the same age plied with drink by him.

It wasn't her idea - but at same time in our society drunk woman are harshly judged but she chalks it up to drunken teen stupidity - and doesn't blame him blames them both.

Manages to say he didn't come across as a virgin and also suggest he was shit - not bothered with her enjoyment but then excused that with his age - then how she was left to face their mates and their judgement and deal with aftermath and then he ghosts her - and her circle changes. Many people have had that experience - it's shit behavior and then there's speculation perhaps her circle changed because of more than them growing up - and that happens without hints or saying so.

Then she moves on with her life never thinking about him or this embarrassing mistake till he write about it and then she dealing with friends who knew texting her and then the press. Put him in place of unimportance - such a minor thing she wouldn't be bringing up years later.

She comes across as a nice woman who made a drunken mistake when upset and kept quiet for over 20 years - she manages to look classy and stick the boot in and look very believable much more so than him and she has quiet cleverly taken back some of the narrative control he took from her.

Even without money I can see why she did the article - and if he's making money off it why shouldn't she get some compensation for the bomb he exploded with no warning in her life.

It's also perfectly possible she wasn't his first - and they still had drunken sex - she said she was unaware he was a virgin - and he threw her under the bus as unimportant while perhaps the other person has some social standing in his current circle - I don't know and I'm unclear how Rupert Everett could be so sure an not just repeating unfounded gossip.

ArcaneWireless

but for someone tooting his own flute

At least he didn't tell us the first time he did that...
Yet.

LaMarschallin

I think this is all intentional by Harry. He's put these sensational but unnecessary stories in the book knowing how the press would react.

He's used them as 'bait', to make a point, demonstrating to us less enlightened how awfully the press treat innocent people. He thinks he is educating us.

He is so fixated on his quest for revenge on the press, that he doesn't care how many people he hurts in the process to make his point. In his eyes, its the press that causes the hurt, not him and he'll believe he has no accountability for the fall out on Sasha and her family.

I truly don't understand what half the anecdotes in that book are doing there. Even the frostbite one could have been presented as a funny anecdote but it wasn't...it was just weird, inappropriate and then creepy as he went into how using the Elizabeth Arden cream reminded him of his mother. Or the one where the older boys made him drive a car on the royal estate while they shot at him. No explanation, no background. Whole thing took about two pages, next chapter. Why? Is this normal for you people?

It is honestly one of the weirdest memoirs I've ever read.

I think you have a good point there, @ALeapOfFaith - he knew full well that all these stories would make headlines. They're all sensational in different ways.
Some of them very unkind as well.

He's used them as 'bait', to make a point, demonstrating to us less enlightened how awfully the press treat innocent people. He thinks he is educating us.

I don't think he's that smart TBH - I don't think he is intellectually or emotional smart and I don't think he considers how he comes across to others just think they'll take his word - also agree with ReneBumsWombats half the annotates I have no idea why they are there.

He doesn't seem like a man who plays the chess game of life, thinking a couple of moves ahead. However he will be surrounded by people who do
think strategically and will have encouraged him to include his 'pub tales' because they are a selling point for the book.

Exactly. Including it in the book was in poor taste, puerile and wholly unnecessary. He seems to have the mentality of a 12-year-old.

No one will get close to him again, or M, for wondering what personal information might end up sold for cash.

How embarrassing

Journalists are also great detectives. Some have solved prominent crimes and exposed corruption. It was only a matter of time before the press caught up with Sasha.

In the interview she said she didn’t tell her friends. They saw her returning toward the pub, disheveled, missing her belt and put 2 and 2 together. Despite this, no one said a word for over 2 decades and a secret it would have remained but for the book.

Sasha is entirely innocent in this. It’s clear the press was narrowing in giving her little option but to tell her story or continue to be hounded and ridiculed. As is, she gave a dignified and caring account of Harry for which Harry should be grateful.

That makes sense. It’s a shame if that was the case especially seeing as she seemingly lead an anonymous life.

I think I read somewhere. that Meghan just wanted someone kind.

Oh how endearing 👸
You have to say it in a little voice with your head cocked slightly to one side

Sasha does not sound as much of a thinker. Her delusions seem grounded in a superficial sense of equality and female empowerment: 'It wasn't just a slap on the arse but a squeeze of his young, peachy bum which I could not resist'.

It reads as really upstairs-downstairs.

Sorry I don’t quite understand what you mean?

Me either but there's a nice dollop of criticism thrown into just a few short sentences words about a women who didn't ask for this intrusion into her life. Words like delusions, not much of a thinker and superficial. Maybe she meant to write Harry's name instead of Sasha.

What delusions? Her account is as valid as his.

Yes, you’re quite right. It doesn’t sit well with me that someone is trying to share their side of the story just to set the record straight and then some posters seem to bend over backwards to excuse Harry’s behaviour in sharing unnecessary stories
that will no doubt hit the headlines.