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For anyone still confused about the lies told by Harry and Megan

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Namechangedforthesakeofpeace · 27/01/2023 13:51

There seems to be a lot of confusion and misinformation on here regarding the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, so I thought I'd pass on this rundown of the issues that have caused them to lose so much goodwill and support:

January 8, 2020: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle declared they would be Half In & Half Out, retaining public service positions while assertively brokering private wealth.

sussexroyal.com/funding/

This is considered unethical, in the US as well as the UK.
These 100+ Trademarks were also denied by the late Queen as it is, again, considered exploitative and unethical.

www.bet.com/article/hhc24z/prince-harry-meghan-markle-reportedly-trademarked-productswww.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/harry-meghan-lost-their-royal-sussex-trademark-bid-because-queen-ncna1148986

It was only at this point that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex changed their narrative, using the Oprah interview to claim that their resignation as working royals was due to press intrusion, racism within the institution and the racism of the UK press.

Just as previous claims of BRF racial discrimination were debunked by Harry himself, these "misleading" 'racist' British Press headlines were removed from the Oprah interview upon legal challenge. This narrative likely necessitated fabrication since two isolated separate incidents in six years are two isolated separate incidents in six years, worthy of calling out individually but not logically forming a pattern, so "manipulated" doctoring stepped in to form this false narrative which has been debunked due to legal challenge and should be accurately reported:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/14/itv-forced-edit-oprah-winfreys-interview-prince-harry-meghan/

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and their highly aggressive PR team are not accurate sources. Underscoring this again, Prince Harry & Meghan Markle, were found to be untruthful in a British Court of Law, with an underlying stated goal of "tugging at the heartstrings" of the public. www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/10/duchess-sussex-called-father-daddy-letter-believing-would-pull/

TL:DR
They have altered their narrative several times, presumably to suit their commercial and branding ambitions at the time. Anyone can cherry-pick headlines to produce a seeming story or pattern - this is what PR is all about - but the repeated U-turns and contradictions in their claims have lost them a lot of good faith public support.

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LadyVictoriaSponge · 28/01/2023 14:30

Quveas · 28/01/2023 04:13

Hysterical. I don't give a rats arse about them. Or the monarchy. I'm happy to dispatch the lot of them to Sheffield. But patronising threads that assume that actually most of us are too stupid to know what to think... Sorry, I really should correct myself. Many of us are capable of thinking. So we don't need a million threads about the bigotry of a bunch of people who think that an upper class version of Eastenders is anything approaching real life.

I neither know nor care who is telling the truth, but history demonstrates that the royal family comprises thieves and liars of the first order (not to mention the adulterers etc.) So if Harry is lying, I wonder where he got that trait from?

Seems you care very much indeed, here you are on the royal family board trying to shut discussion down, taking time out your day on a board that apparently you don’t gives a rats arse about.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 15:37

Novella4 · 28/01/2023 13:25

@MarshaMelrose
I've seen your suggestion from royalists a couple of times - ie these boards are for glad waving royalists only

Do you think these boards are only for the bootlickers?
As well you know there is plenty to criticise re the 'royals ' and there is and will continue to be critics .
Numbers are growing too

Someone on Twitter even showed negative comments re 'royals' on the Fail ! I think it was the food back PR fail that prompted it

I think these boards who want to write about the RF , both positively, negatively and neutrally. You and I have sparred many times. Have I ever said to you that you shouldn't engage on the boards because you have negative opinions? No, I have not. I have taken insulting epithets from you and said nothing.
My argument with Quveas is not what their opinion of the RF is but that they come on the Royal Family board and say people should stop writing on the thread because we should be talking about public services and poverty. But clearly they're not talking about those subjects... because they're posting on the RF boards. That's hypocritical. And it belies their assertion that the RF are not worth writing about because they actually keep writing about them.
You, too, dislike the RF but I don't recall you saying writing about them is a waste of time and none of the other posters should do it. If you ever do say that but keep writing about them, I'll call you a hypocrite too.

TheBookThieves · 29/01/2023 12:13

Robynxoxo · 27/01/2023 14:22

I like Meghan markle don't understand the hate. I think people are just pissed he didn't marry a boring English woman like Kate.

And what makes MM so much more exciting? The fact she lives in a fantasy land, perhaps?

Quveas · 29/01/2023 13:37

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 15:37

I think these boards who want to write about the RF , both positively, negatively and neutrally. You and I have sparred many times. Have I ever said to you that you shouldn't engage on the boards because you have negative opinions? No, I have not. I have taken insulting epithets from you and said nothing.
My argument with Quveas is not what their opinion of the RF is but that they come on the Royal Family board and say people should stop writing on the thread because we should be talking about public services and poverty. But clearly they're not talking about those subjects... because they're posting on the RF boards. That's hypocritical. And it belies their assertion that the RF are not worth writing about because they actually keep writing about them.
You, too, dislike the RF but I don't recall you saying writing about them is a waste of time and none of the other posters should do it. If you ever do say that but keep writing about them, I'll call you a hypocrite too.

I believe that's quite a variation from what I said. I really don't have time to write multiple lengthy posts on matters of no import, but what I said was that the OP was being entirely patronising with their "here is summary of the lies for the confused" as if (a) anyone who doesn't think they are lies is just confused and (b) they're haven't been bloody thousands of these threads already.

The amount of energy being devoted to these deranged and vitriolic attacks on an ongoing basis is out of all proportion with the relevance or value of the individuals (all of them, including the monarch) on a real life basis. But dare to have a different opinion and the comeback is always "oh you must be a H&M supporter".

The Royal family don't care about you or anything other than protecting their own elitist position. And as for H&M - perhaps you all should take your own advice, becuse it is the deranged attacks of people who actually know nothing about any of them that is keeping them in the news, feeding a media frenzy being lapped up by the great unwashed, and which made the book you all profess to be lies the best seller it is. If you want them to fade into obscurity then the only strategy is the opposite of the shite being trotted out here - ignore them and talking about something more relevant. Crochet, perhaps.

HonestViper · 10/03/2024 18:44

Megan did know scobie because they wrote finding freedom with him.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 10/03/2024 21:11

Why do people keep resurrecting zombie threads?

Theunamedcat · 10/03/2024 21:15

queentim · 27/01/2023 15:11

Attempting to respond to a nonsensical post

  1. You trademark your name so others can't profit off of it. This is normal. Ask Will and Kate.

  2. Press intrusion and racism are still their claims, see their docuseries and Harry's book. This hasn't changed. Please provide what and when Harry unturned on racism within family and institution. Can you provide a source, (copies of old and edited interviews) comparing changes in the Oprah interview or is your source a British tabloid? Thanks.

  3. yes, that's how Public Relations works. You spin so you present the best image. The royal family is good at this. How unfortunate her father leaked a private letter. That's not Meghan's fault, but good for her for being so forward thinking and knowing he'd do it. The court didn't "find" them to be mistruthful. They weren't on trial. That'd be considered purgory.

Harry himself claimed the royal family wasn't racist that they suffered from unconscious bias not racism he claims the racism claims were made up by the British press

It's was the "Sussex Royal" trademark they were not allowed

Theunamedcat · 10/03/2024 21:16

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 10/03/2024 21:11

Why do people keep resurrecting zombie threads?

Shit should have checked the dam date 🤦‍♀️

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2024 21:19

I just want to know whether must have 'Sussex Royal' bandanas are still available.

pubblehopper · 10/03/2024 21:20

Edited, I see now it's zombie thread.

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2024 21:36

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 10/03/2024 21:11

Why do people keep resurrecting zombie threads?

Dunno.

Just quite like the fun😎

MissTrip82 · 10/03/2024 21:43

You can’t imagine that keeping a dossier on famous people you don’t like and will never meet is in any way sane.

I really wonder how people who post like this function in every day life. Absolutely unhinged and unhealthy behaviour.

Itsacrazyworldwelivin · 07/07/2024 11:57

From the horses mouth, you mean like Harry's interview with Tom Brady saying the royals aren't racist and that it could be just conscious bias? Like their engagement interview saying he proposed over a chicken dinner and then on their documentary it changed to a midnight picnic! Even in the Oprah interview which was taken of air after 30 days and changed when in the UK over some of the false accounts made by meghan that was proven and Oprah was threaten with legal action! I guess all those ex employees ( and there's lots of them) are all liars with their bullying allegations against meghan! So what is it? Are the only people telling the truth Meghan and Harry and everyone else are the liars even though many of Harry and Meghans claims have been debunked not just by tabloids but by real people! Even Harry's taliban kills have been called out as a lie as well by the army person in charge of Harrys regiment. Meghan was also caught lying to the courts and made a grovelling apology! So if she is okay lying to a judge she wouldn't care about lying to get public favour!

FloofPaws · 07/07/2024 13:06

@Itsacrazyworldwelivin - I'm wondering how many people she's pissed on during her recent filming of this cooking show - waiting more antics lol - there's so many lies and nonsense it's hilarious these days

MissTrip82 · 08/07/2024 09:37

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 08/07/2024 09:52

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Imagine being an ordinary citizen being interested in politics and society, in the machinations of people who wield a behind the scenes (sometimes) and a right in your face (very often) political influence and whose lives and influence will be written up in the history books; whose words and actions have a wide ranging influence - from discussions about First Amendment rights in the internet age, the branding of an entire nation as racist, the future of a constitutional monarchy, the use of charity to influence politics, the use of charity to hide money and tax breaks, the use of the edifice of victimhood to shut down free speech (a huge problem in modern society), the hypocrisy of the do as I say not do as I do influencer….the list could go on and on. Now imagine being so devoid of critical thinking to think that none of that has any effect on your life or that of generations to come because you will never meet them. So you think, nah, I’ll stop taking note, I’ll stop discussing something that (rightly) is making my antenna tingle. I’ll go and do something that some stranger on the internet has decided is a more useful use of my time because of my station in life. Imagine.

Rhaidimiddim · 08/07/2024 11:15

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 08/07/2024 09:52

Imagine being an ordinary citizen being interested in politics and society, in the machinations of people who wield a behind the scenes (sometimes) and a right in your face (very often) political influence and whose lives and influence will be written up in the history books; whose words and actions have a wide ranging influence - from discussions about First Amendment rights in the internet age, the branding of an entire nation as racist, the future of a constitutional monarchy, the use of charity to influence politics, the use of charity to hide money and tax breaks, the use of the edifice of victimhood to shut down free speech (a huge problem in modern society), the hypocrisy of the do as I say not do as I do influencer….the list could go on and on. Now imagine being so devoid of critical thinking to think that none of that has any effect on your life or that of generations to come because you will never meet them. So you think, nah, I’ll stop taking note, I’ll stop discussing something that (rightly) is making my antenna tingle. I’ll go and do something that some stranger on the internet has decided is a more useful use of my time because of my station in life. Imagine.

Imagine, too, that the people in question have the support and resources to push misinformation into the mainstream about the institution that surrounds our Head of State and his family, including branding the next Head of State a wife-beating philanderer.

Imagine those people then making high-profile visits to countries that are being courted by Russia and China.

Why would anyone not be interested. Especially when they regularly get it soooo wrong so entertainingly.

smilesy · 08/07/2024 11:19

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Imagine popping up twice on a zombie thread to say exactly the same thing ….😆

AutumnCrow · 11/07/2024 17:18

LadyVictoriaSponge · 27/01/2023 20:26

Full quote from the horses mouth

Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts.'

Ah yes. ‘When the stakes are this high, don’t you want to hear the side of the story as told by an amnesiac, drug taking, co-dependent, intellectually-challenged, ex-Etonian, over-privileged, derivative, ego-fractured wanker? It’s available in charity shops for 50p, honest’.

Runnerinthenight · 11/07/2024 18:16

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I guess you have just pissed on every historian's chips, and that of every social commentator, because you just don't understand.

AliceOlive · 11/07/2024 18:16

Video with the stakes quote. Please someone explain to me why these people think the “stakes” are high for the general public.

mashable.com/video/harry-and-meghan-netflix-documentary-teaser

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 11/07/2024 18:24

AliceOlive · 11/07/2024 18:16

Video with the stakes quote. Please someone explain to me why these people think the “stakes” are high for the general public.

mashable.com/video/harry-and-meghan-netflix-documentary-teaser

Maybe it was steak for dinner and Harry is high, but they got the words muddled.

AliceOlive · 11/07/2024 19:24

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 11/07/2024 18:24

Maybe it was steak for dinner and Harry is high, but they got the words muddled.

word salad to go with the 🥩

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 11/07/2024 19:30

AliceOlive · 11/07/2024 19:24

word salad to go with the 🥩

BA-boom Tish!! 😂 🥁

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