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For anyone still confused about the lies told by Harry and Megan

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Namechangedforthesakeofpeace · 27/01/2023 13:51

There seems to be a lot of confusion and misinformation on here regarding the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, so I thought I'd pass on this rundown of the issues that have caused them to lose so much goodwill and support:

January 8, 2020: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle declared they would be Half In & Half Out, retaining public service positions while assertively brokering private wealth.

sussexroyal.com/funding/

This is considered unethical, in the US as well as the UK.
These 100+ Trademarks were also denied by the late Queen as it is, again, considered exploitative and unethical.

www.bet.com/article/hhc24z/prince-harry-meghan-markle-reportedly-trademarked-productswww.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/harry-meghan-lost-their-royal-sussex-trademark-bid-because-queen-ncna1148986

It was only at this point that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex changed their narrative, using the Oprah interview to claim that their resignation as working royals was due to press intrusion, racism within the institution and the racism of the UK press.

Just as previous claims of BRF racial discrimination were debunked by Harry himself, these "misleading" 'racist' British Press headlines were removed from the Oprah interview upon legal challenge. This narrative likely necessitated fabrication since two isolated separate incidents in six years are two isolated separate incidents in six years, worthy of calling out individually but not logically forming a pattern, so "manipulated" doctoring stepped in to form this false narrative which has been debunked due to legal challenge and should be accurately reported:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/14/itv-forced-edit-oprah-winfreys-interview-prince-harry-meghan/

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and their highly aggressive PR team are not accurate sources. Underscoring this again, Prince Harry & Meghan Markle, were found to be untruthful in a British Court of Law, with an underlying stated goal of "tugging at the heartstrings" of the public. www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/10/duchess-sussex-called-father-daddy-letter-believing-would-pull/

TL:DR
They have altered their narrative several times, presumably to suit their commercial and branding ambitions at the time. Anyone can cherry-pick headlines to produce a seeming story or pattern - this is what PR is all about - but the repeated U-turns and contradictions in their claims have lost them a lot of good faith public support.

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SeasonFinale · 27/01/2023 20:31

Littlebummybums · 27/01/2023 19:31

Calm down Carole.

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pocketvenuss · 27/01/2023 20:35

Wow. You are so over invested that it hurts. Please. Stop starting threads for the sole purpose of riling up hate bask yourself why you need to do this so much?

TheMoonHangsOverIdlewild · 27/01/2023 20:35

Littlebummybums · 27/01/2023 19:31

Calm down Carole.

Aww leave her Malone

Inkpotlover · 27/01/2023 21:16

Who seriously gives a shit? We get it. You don't like them.

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 21:16

TheMoonHangsOverIdlewild · 27/01/2023 20:35

Aww leave her Malone

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garlicandsapphires · 27/01/2023 21:25

It's a bit sad to have written all that OP.

AliceOlive · 27/01/2023 21:27

This is really wild. Pajamas!

www.bet.com/article/hhc24z/prince-harry-meghan-markle-reportedly-trademarked-products

Theunamedcat · 27/01/2023 21:31

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 14:40

What an effing desperate thread !

nypost.com/2023/01/09/prince-harry-under-fire-for-denying-royal-family-racism-claim/

MarshaMelrose · 27/01/2023 22:20

The court didn't "find" them to be mistruthful. They weren't on trial. That'd be considered purgory.

The judge didnt find 'them' anything. Harry wasn't involved at all. It was only Meghan that had to apologise for misleading the court. Aka, not telling the truth.

You don't have to be the accused to commit perjury. Anyone who lies to the court is guilty of perjury. Defendant, plaintiff or witness. The court accepted her apology and let it go. But she still had to apologise for not telling the truth. Which is, I think, the definition of mistruthful.

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/01/2023 22:27

Half in half out wasn’t possible because they wanted to trade off Sussex royal and HMQ said no to this.

Quveas · 27/01/2023 22:28

Thank you for your patronising assumption that everyone but you is too stupid to make up their own minds. Give it a rest now. The antics of the rich and famous are not actually news or important. It's flotsam to divert the attention of fools from things that really matter, like the destruction of public services, people unable to afford their heating in winter, or being able to afford the food they need to eat.

Jordosky · 27/01/2023 23:09

Valid points op

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 00:48

Quveas · 27/01/2023 22:28

Thank you for your patronising assumption that everyone but you is too stupid to make up their own minds. Give it a rest now. The antics of the rich and famous are not actually news or important. It's flotsam to divert the attention of fools from things that really matter, like the destruction of public services, people unable to afford their heating in winter, or being able to afford the food they need to eat.

You like Harry and Meghan. You don't like them being criticised. That's fair enough. But it's ridiculous that people arent supposed to discuss anything but poverty! Are you on all of the tv addicts threads berating them for watching telly instead of having meaningful discussions about public services? Or the cooking threads where posters suggest recipes that some people won't be able to afford to make? Or maybe even the holiday threads? 😱 How dare they?!
Get a grip. Discussing the RF isn't causing the CoL crisis and not talking about them won't solve it.

WilburTheIron · 28/01/2023 00:57

I think your comments encourage people who are on the fence / mildly negative towards M & H to change towards being sympathetic towards them - because seeing stuff like this confirms the level of batshit they might actually have to deal with. Colour me converted.

thaegumathteth · 28/01/2023 01:26

God why do you even care??? Like a passing interest fair enough but jeez

Believeitornot · 28/01/2023 01:29

Why are you all so invested in people that none of you actually know?
They’re all a bunch of entitled twats who never done a days proper work in their life. Spongers.

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 01:40

Believeitornot · 28/01/2023 01:29

Why are you all so invested in people that none of you actually know?
They’re all a bunch of entitled twats who never done a days proper work in their life. Spongers.

You don't know the op. Why are you so invested in what a person who you don't actually know thinks about people you despise on a board which is solely about people you despise? So invested are you that you actually post about it.
Whatever makes you invested is what makes the op invested. Simples.

Quveas · 28/01/2023 04:13

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 00:48

You like Harry and Meghan. You don't like them being criticised. That's fair enough. But it's ridiculous that people arent supposed to discuss anything but poverty! Are you on all of the tv addicts threads berating them for watching telly instead of having meaningful discussions about public services? Or the cooking threads where posters suggest recipes that some people won't be able to afford to make? Or maybe even the holiday threads? 😱 How dare they?!
Get a grip. Discussing the RF isn't causing the CoL crisis and not talking about them won't solve it.

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Hysterical. I don't give a rats arse about them. Or the monarchy. I'm happy to dispatch the lot of them to Sheffield. But patronising threads that assume that actually most of us are too stupid to know what to think... Sorry, I really should correct myself. Many of us are capable of thinking. So we don't need a million threads about the bigotry of a bunch of people who think that an upper class version of Eastenders is anything approaching real life.

I neither know nor care who is telling the truth, but history demonstrates that the royal family comprises thieves and liars of the first order (not to mention the adulterers etc.) So if Harry is lying, I wonder where he got that trait from?

MarshaMelrose · 28/01/2023 11:14

Quveas · 28/01/2023 04:13

Hysterical. I don't give a rats arse about them. Or the monarchy. I'm happy to dispatch the lot of them to Sheffield. But patronising threads that assume that actually most of us are too stupid to know what to think... Sorry, I really should correct myself. Many of us are capable of thinking. So we don't need a million threads about the bigotry of a bunch of people who think that an upper class version of Eastenders is anything approaching real life.

I neither know nor care who is telling the truth, but history demonstrates that the royal family comprises thieves and liars of the first order (not to mention the adulterers etc.) So if Harry is lying, I wonder where he got that trait from?

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If you really do think these million threads are patronising and about people you despise and have no time for, why bother coming on the RF board? The fact you spend time writing about them, whilst telling other people not to waste their time writing about them, actually just shows how much you are invested in them. If you really didn't have time for them, you'd stay away from the board, same way I stay away from the Arts and Crafts board. I'm just not interested so I wouldn't post. But I'd never say to users of that board, hey, stop writing about knitting, it's boring, so instead go spend your time talking about those people too poor to eat or keep warm.

Aspiringmatriarch · 28/01/2023 11:40

notanotheroneagain · 27/01/2023 19:08

Sorry OP,

But I don't see why you see half in and out as unethical.
Without any choice at all H was put in the 'job' from birth. What he is saying is that he was willing to continue to serve HMQE, but stop being in the limelight of UK. Just like his cousins. Previously, they (the cousins ) were portrayed as 'helping' the queen while having their own jobs. Don't see what the problem is here. They would have gone off to do their thing in Canada while raising awareness on charities.

Trademarks were done by Kate and William too , so not clear what you mean here.

Initially, H&M did not go into details as to why they were leaving. But push came to shove from the palace and they had to come all out as to what the reasons really are.

Harry did not 'debunk' racism. He may have softened the word, but I would still call it racism myself. It definitely was.

For the hundredth time, Omid did not speak to H&M. He spoke to Jason - who turned out to be against the Sussexes. They did not even know who he was.

There have been no u-turns etc. from the Sussex. Just the press changing things.

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All of this. Plus Harry is unstable IMO which didn't help, but not that's too surprising in the circumstances.

ReedRite · 28/01/2023 12:31

Quveas · 27/01/2023 22:28

Thank you for your patronising assumption that everyone but you is too stupid to make up their own minds. Give it a rest now. The antics of the rich and famous are not actually news or important. It's flotsam to divert the attention of fools from things that really matter, like the destruction of public services, people unable to afford their heating in winter, or being able to afford the food they need to eat.

I find this a bit of an odd conclusion, unless it’s really you saying you like the Sussexes and find the OP’s post uncomfortable.

I don’t find it patronising. I’m perfectly well aware and secure in the knowledge I could have done this analysis if I’d wished. I’m short on time, however, so it was useful to see someone else’s efforts. Saved me the bother.

derxa · 28/01/2023 13:18

It's flotsam to divert the attention of fools from things that really matter, like the destruction of public services, people unable to afford their heating in winter, or being able to afford the food they need to eat. TBH I'm sick of hearing all about that and 'nurses and teachers going to foodbanks'.

Novella4 · 28/01/2023 13:25

@MarshaMelrose
I've seen your suggestion from royalists a couple of times - ie these boards are for glad waving royalists only

Do you think these boards are only for the bootlickers?
As well you know there is plenty to criticise re the 'royals ' and there is and will continue to be critics .
Numbers are growing too

Someone on Twitter even showed negative comments re 'royals' on the Fail ! I think it was the food back PR fail that prompted it

Lampzade · 28/01/2023 13:29

Ffs Get a hobby Op

silverclock222 · 28/01/2023 13:32

I thought I had hidden RF threads because I have no interest in any of them although quite honestly the more I hear about H&M the more they annoy me. Anyhow my two penneth is money can't buy you class and really only H&M are making a fool of the British people. And off I pop to reside this shite- have a fab weekend everyone