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Did William really cheat on Kate?

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ttcstop · 20/01/2023 23:12

I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

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polkadotdalmation · 17/05/2023 20:53

@CabbagePatchDole how do you know he could have revealed much more explosive material? You're simply grandstanding. You have no idea what material exists or doesn't.

TeaIsRisen · 18/05/2023 12:49

I have no idea if it's true or not but I heard the rumours irl looooong before they ever got online. That absolutely does not mean it's true, but it's strange that there's such an aggressive and seemingly coordinated push to pretend that Giles Coren originated the rumour, or that girl on Twitter who was a Meghan fan originated the rumour, and to link the rumour to Meghan when it predates her relationship with Harry.

I tried to look for gossip on Twitter and I found something like 50 tweets all sent from separate accounts saying (with basically identical wording) "Giles Coren admitted he made it up after a lunch with Meghan." That to me is far far more suspicious and interesting gossip-wise than Will and Rose, who is the person orchestrating for 50 separate Twitter accounts to copy and paste the same lie? Only someone with an agenda uses astroturfing to that extent.

It's scary, because okay it might just be celeb gossip to most people, but all the stuff with Trump and Jan 6th and fake news and social media shows how very dangerous it is for people to manipulate the general public/social media by astroturfing lies. It's so easy to create a lie just by making a few dozen Twitter accounts pretending to be lots of different people and tweet the same lie from all of them. It's scary how gullible people are that they see a lie repeated over and over, and don't question to check for themselves.

I detest Giles Coren but anyone can google and read both his original tweet and his "retraction", which wasn't really a retraction at all. (The retraction, which has been framed as "Giles admitted he made it up" literally just said something like "I'd been at a boozy lunch for journalists where everyone was discussing the rumour, got drunk, and tweeted. I don't know William so I have no idea if it's true or not.") Now he'd obviously been told to retract as his original tweet caused such a shitstorm, but that's pretty interesting wording for a "retraction", isn't it? Giles managed to shoehorn in the fact an entire room of journalists were discussing the affair rumour (so the exact opposite of "Giles admitted he made it up" - clearly Giles wasn't the originator, if he learned it from a roomful of journalists), and he made a point of saying he didn't know if it was true or not.

I do wonder why Giles felt the need to mention that the affair is being widely discussed by journalists in his "retraction"?

And I wonder where the "Giles admitted he made it up after a lunch with Meghan" statement being astroturfed on Twitter came from, since Meghan very obviously wasn't at a lunch for journalists.

The other aspect is that everyone is focusing on Giles and never mentions Tom Sykes, who actually wrote a full article about the affair saying an earl's daughter had told him during a fancy dinner that William was having an affair with Rose, and that he'd subsequently had the affair confirmed by two other people he considered reliable sources. Tom Sykes is an actual aristocrat (he's the great-grandson of 6th Baronet, Sir Tatton Mark Sykes, and his family were close friends with the former King) and a full-time royal reporter. He's also very anti-Meghan, which demolishes the idea that Meghan was behind the story.

It's also weird how much Rose's brother's press statement (saying that William and Rose are close platonic friends and often have dinner together just the two of them) has been hushed up. Even on gossip blogs, no one ever mentions Tom's article or Rose's brother's statement, all the attention goes to Giles which I'm sure he loves but doesn't deserve, since he really is very irrelevant. What's the agenda in trying to detract attention away from Tom's article and Rose's brother's statement and onto Giles's silly tweets?

Cowparslee · 18/05/2023 13:11

Apparently, the rumors started circulating on US sites after Harry attended a ball with Rose in 2017 (after Meghan and Harry had started dating) and Meghan was furious because she wasn't allowed to accompany to go?

Cowparslee · 18/05/2023 13:12

I agree the Giles Coren stuff isn't where it started

Peverellshire · 18/05/2023 13:54

The rumours I've heard don't involve Rose and explain, IF true, why Catherine might be able to look past it.

ShirleyPhallus · 18/05/2023 14:03

Peverellshire · 18/05/2023 13:54

The rumours I've heard don't involve Rose and explain, IF true, why Catherine might be able to look past it.

Well you can’t just leave it there - what are these other rumours?

grass321 · 18/05/2023 14:05

Indeed, if they're the same ones I heard.

And I agree Giles Coren's version of events has been somewhat twisted. He distanced himself rather than denying it.

CabbagePatchDole · 18/05/2023 14:08

Coxspurplepippin · 17/05/2023 11:57

There is no injunction, super or otherwise. An injunction would only have jurisdiction in England/Wales. If there was any truth in the matter the press/individuals in Scotland, and, oh, you know, the rest of the world, would be publishing the salacious facts all over the front pages. Which they're not.

Not sure what your last sentence means, but if it's that the Telegraph are removing comments suggesting William had an affair, did it ever cross your mind it might be because he didn't and the comments are libellous?

I'm not sure you can claim the Telegraph is biased against Harry and Meghan following Bryony Gordon's puff piece earlier in the year.

No injunction but an agreement between the RF and the press?

Peverellshire · 18/05/2023 14:08

ShirleyPhallus · 18/05/2023 14:03

Well you can’t just leave it there - what are these other rumours?

Agree, on leaving it there. FWIW. Both are decent people.

Conflictedcommunication · 18/05/2023 14:23

Peverellshire · 18/05/2023 13:54

The rumours I've heard don't involve Rose and explain, IF true, why Catherine might be able to look past it.

Come on, elaborate please

SleepyRooster · 18/05/2023 14:47

Oh come on. Yes of course. He has multiple opportunities, therefore he has/does. No reflection on her.

Cowparslee · 18/05/2023 14:50

I've been down some deep and dirty rabbit holes today and pretty much all the rumors people ever talk about involve Rose. And looking back, they can all be traced to the period in 2017 after Harry escorted Rose to that state ball while he was dating Meghan, which was also around the same time Meghan was 'snubbed' by Kate on her shopping trip to the King's road. How convenient that a rumor should suddenly appear targeting both Rose and Kate around that same time?

Meanwhile, Kate's sister called her daughter Rose, the Cholmondeleys put in appearances at Sandringham, and Prince George and Rose's son were seen chatting very animatedly on the balcony with Ralph Tollemache, they are clearly very good friends and their parents obviously spend lots of time together.

Kate's relationship with Rose seems pretty chummy to me. Especially as her frosty behavior towards Meghan after the queen died suggests Kate really isn't the forgiving type!

grass321 · 18/05/2023 14:51

It's a bit hard to elaborate without breaking guidelines but there was a viral hashtag which any vague search on the topic brings up. Also featured on a couple of the main LA gossip writers' websites.

All of which may be made up, who knows.

LadyHarmby · 18/05/2023 14:52

Cowparslee · 18/05/2023 13:11

Apparently, the rumors started circulating on US sites after Harry attended a ball with Rose in 2017 (after Meghan and Harry had started dating) and Meghan was furious because she wasn't allowed to accompany to go?

Yes, yes, yes! Something else we can blame on Meghan!

ShirleyPhallus · 18/05/2023 14:56

grass321 · 18/05/2023 14:51

It's a bit hard to elaborate without breaking guidelines but there was a viral hashtag which any vague search on the topic brings up. Also featured on a couple of the main LA gossip writers' websites.

All of which may be made up, who knows.

Oh the pegging one?

Novella4 · 18/05/2023 15:00

@Conflictedcommunication
I think I've heard the same

grass321 · 18/05/2023 15:10

ShirleyPhallus that was the one I'd seen, yes

Cowparslee · 18/05/2023 15:12

Yes, yes, yes! Something else we can blame on Meghan!

Well the cap certainly fits. We know that Meghan's friend Lainey was talking about the snub by Kate in Feb 2017 (something that can only have come directly from Meghan)

https://www.laineygossip.com/Didnt-offer-a-ride-blind-riddle/46293

And we know that four months later he escorted Rose to a state ball

https://twitter.com/PARoyal/status/885234358503829504

https://twitter.com/PARoyal/status/885234358503829504

Conflictedcommunication · 18/05/2023 15:57

ShirleyPhallus · 18/05/2023 14:56

Oh the pegging one?

I've heard that one. Old fashioned and doesn't mind apparently Confused

Conflictedcommunication · 18/05/2023 16:02

Cowparslee · 18/05/2023 15:12

Yes, yes, yes! Something else we can blame on Meghan!

Well the cap certainly fits. We know that Meghan's friend Lainey was talking about the snub by Kate in Feb 2017 (something that can only have come directly from Meghan)

https://www.laineygossip.com/Didnt-offer-a-ride-blind-riddle/46293

And we know that four months later he escorted Rose to a state ball

https://twitter.com/PARoyal/status/885234358503829504

I've been reading shit about the Royals for a long time Blush and this looks to be a recycled rumour? Allegedly Kate snubbed Chelsy's invitation to shop together. Or maybe this is just how she behaves around Harry's girlfriends.

sillyonehetpes · 18/05/2023 16:15

ssd · 20/01/2023 23:52

Why would you think he has the confidence, arrogance and opportunity to cheat on his loyal, docile wife??

Its not as if there's a history of cheating in all the heirs to the throne...

Docile? I don't think so

LadyEloise1 · 18/05/2023 16:22

Wasn't Rose at that ball because her husband was Lord Great Chamberlain to QE2 ?

Conflictedcommunication · 18/05/2023 16:28

sillyonehetpes · 18/05/2023 16:15

Docile? I don't think so

I detect steeliness in her character.

SeemsPointless · 18/05/2023 16:44

Conflictedcommunication · 18/05/2023 16:28

I detect steeliness in her character.

I agree. There’s a phrase I like - “iron fist in a velvet glove”. I think that describes her perfectly.

I was actually talking to DP the other day about this subject. Nothing to do with the RF, but the general principle that if a person has a quiet, non- flashy demeanour, people assume that you’re a walkover and weak.

it’s almost as if to be considered as a strong person, you have to be loud and gobby. Apprentice candidate style.

There are lots of people who appear calm, quiet and friendly who I think are tough, confident and take no shit. Catherine included.

Bouledeneige · 18/05/2023 17:02

Well of course none of us will ever know. Will's treated her pretty badly in the early years whilst he played the field and she played the role of Waity Katey. So sure that takes a bit of determination (when most of your friends would usually call red flag and tell you to find someone who treats you better) but I'm not sure that establishes you with power in a relationship.

I just get the feeling that William will never divorce having been through it as a child so whether they are happy or not I see them both sticking it out with grim fist clenching determination. Duty, duty, duty. But what do I know?

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