Did William really cheat on Kate?

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I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

Disingenuous - no wonder you get so much hassle

What are you talking about, in recent history the royals were hiding disabled relatives, who died without a proper royal burial.

Here we go....

No. I just had an opinion that whoever said what to H&M, the person should not be named. Imagine if it had been Charles? Or William. So just do one with your hiding racism crap. I am not a royalist so your post is pathetic. It's just cheap point scoring of another poster. Please don't @ me. I will choose to read your posts or not, I'd rather not be notified of them.

Of course I have zero evidence of this. It is an opinion. Like arseholes we all have them.

I disagree .. IF someone was racist they bloody well should be named.

If someone can air a deeply unpleasant accusation like that then they should name the person instead of hiding behind a mealie-mouthed sweeping allegation.

Casting a shadow over everyone to enable outrage and publicity for personal validation is a shameful thing to do.

That may not have been their intention but it was the outcome. And someone with zero self awareness would have been able to see that coming.

Rumours and allegations damage people.

If you make allegations like that then you should also have the decency not to cloak everyone in the same cloud.

Your opinion. Arcane

Mine is different. I think he did the right thing for reasons I have explained.

Then perhaps it should not have been mentioned at all. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Being Bisexual is far more common & accepted, even in fairly immediate Royal circles than many seemingly imagine….People/partners are open & more tolerant than many assume.

Really? I thought the UK was a hotbed of racists according to you, but apparently there are no homophobic bigots here ? And yet…how many gay male professional footballers are publicly out then?

Is that necessary? Aren’t you new? How would you know? Rousette gets followed and attacked with personal remarks. I know because I’ve reported quite a few and MNHQ delete them. Nobody deserves personal attacks on a forum.

Nobody deserves personal attacks on a forum.

I heartily agree.

The same applies to snide allegations and rumours being circulated too though.

Wrong though it is, if you see one thing being accepted it is not outwith the realms of possibility that some will think it is a free for all.

@ArcaneWireless not according to talk guidelines! You can’t get things removed for those reasons. That’s why the forum is full of stuff like that.

I know what talk guidelines are thank you. That isn’t what I’m saying.

I'll put up with a lot but not anyone saying I want to hide racism. One step too far for me.

Which is why I get annoyed about allegations being thrown about regarding racism. Call it out? of course. But don’t lump everyone in that allegation as some have chosen to do. Name those who have been racist. Give examples. Have the courage of your convictions.

A sweeping allegation is far more damaging than naming someone and letting them deal with the fall out.

They didn’t say they were racist.

Regarding how to deal with racism and micro aggressions, I think unless you’re a POC who has been in that position then you don’t get to tell people how to deal with it. I don’t know who has or hasn’t here so not directed at anyone in particular, but my view having been on the receiving end. One time I reported it at school, many many decades ago, I didn’t name the other students. They talked to the whole year about it and it was easier for everyone in my view, especially me.

Also receiving end. Plenty qualified to have an opinion on how people should deal with it.

And for me, that doesn’t include leaving something hanging in the air, leaving people to speculate, and then exonerating some.

The comments and aggressions shown to me belong to the people who did them. Not their friends and family.

I don’t class the UK as racist either but I fully concede that there are racist people. I’ve met some.

And for me, that doesn’t include leaving something hanging in the air, leaving people to speculate, and then exonerating some.

I do understand why people think that way. But as I said that’s not how I always deal with it and I think their circumstance is far different to any position you or I would have been in. If it were Charles or Camilla, completely hypothetically, I think putting the responsibility on them to name them and then have to deal with significant fallout affecting the monarchy, I just don’t think it’s fair. Ultimately I support how the receiver chooses to deal with it.

Including I may say that I wasn’t ‘brown’ enough to have an opinion on racism and that I couldn’t possibly know what it was like. A thread on here.

And when I challenged that with examples, the pile on was immense. No one could tell me why my many experiences didn’t count.

That is why I get annoyed.

I agree that people should deal with it how they wish - to an extent. That should not involve letting people who have not been openly racist, covertly racist or shown micro aggressions or however else it could be described take the flak for those who have.

Oh god! @ArcaneWireless ! , that's awful 😢, I'm sad to say , I think I remember reading that thread! ( unless it was another equally awful thread!) .

That's just terrible, @ArcaneWireless , how very distressing. I didn't see that thread unfortunately, otherwise I would have had a lot to say. 💐 How cruel. How unnecessary. There's just too much judgement and personal attacks on here.
I know that there was speculation about what colour my children were going to be - I won't go into the details but I certainly wouldn't have accused the entire family of racism. That would have been too unkind to some of the lovely relatives.

@ArcaneWireless that’s really awful that happened to you, that isn’t ok either. I always get a lot of racism on MN, someone said quite awful things about my family a few weeks ago, who they obviously can’t know 😬 it’s not nice.

A few moons ago and another name or two ago Jeff but I’ve never quite forgotten it.

And I also watched a lot of those people who piled on (rightly) defend Meghan.

I do get angry about racism and rumours because both absolutely are damaging. As is leaving those entirely innocent of a sweeping statement to be subject to speculation.

Tbf we don’t know if they’re entirely innocent. My DH raised an issue of racist remarks made not to me but about Maori people in his immediate family that extended family had said and his family all minimised it and asked him not to say anything. Not saying I know that’s what happened here, but that is a possibility given how they’ve claimed nobody helped them in general. I do find this particular point about that interview has been overanalysed and them endlessly criticised for it while the fact it was said at all, minimised or questioned even happened. Everyone has an opinion on if or how they should of said it, but there’s less conversation ( if any at all ) about how biracial people are subject to this kind of conversation in general and what we can do about that.

@Maireas I too got the question about my pregnancies and the colour…

One was properly snidey. The others I believed to be just curious. And I thought that was ok because there genuinely wasn’t any malice meant.