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Did William really cheat on Kate?

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ttcstop · 20/01/2023 23:12

I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

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BoyPlaystheAccordian · 21/01/2023 10:40

I have no inside information but my feeling is that the rumours are true about William. I think this is what is making Harry so full of rage with the media, his brother and the palace. At the time of this alleged affair the tabloids were just full of stories about Harry and Meghan. I believe the story about William was suppressed. Harry doesn't care about the cheating but the fact that the Palace acted to suppress stories about William and Kate but did apparently nothing to suppress stories about him and Meghan - and that he further believes that the press were deliberately fed stories about him and Meghan in 'exchange' for keeping William out of the press.

It fits with his rage and his continuing demands for an apology and his latest insinuations that he has very damaging information that didn't make it into this book.

I am no fan of Harry and Meghan but I can understand that it must be incredibly frustrating to be savaged by a press that seems only to publish complimentary pieces about William and Kate (in full knowledge that William has cheated).

00100001 · 21/01/2023 10:40

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/01/2023 10:12

I can’t be outing but I have family connections and have heard conversations and 100% he did.

Some people on here are very sure he didn’t simply because it doesn’t fit their narrative/view of him.

Maybe it's because not a single person can show any evidence.... Even though it's "widely reported" especially abroad where there's no media black out... and there's all sorts of pictures on social media.... But no links or images ever seem to appear

Adviceneeded200 · 21/01/2023 10:40

Well they didn't do much of a job vetting that "security detail" did they?

I'd believe in the possibility of butlers, mates, randomers in right place at the right time boasting what they know, but I think it's very unlikely for security too due to the sort of person vetted for those roles.

billy1966 · 21/01/2023 10:43

Underminer · 21/01/2023 09:14

😆 accurate.

In my professional life I found this to be true, right across the ages.

Men in big jobs consistently unfaithful to the wives and familys.

They couldn't resist the opportunity their professional successes gave them despite being small, fat, old and seriously physically unattractive in a well cut suit.

Their highly well paid careers gave them the space and opportunity to have a bit on the side, and they all took it.

barnbaby · 21/01/2023 10:43

Harry knows doesn't he, you can just tell. Book 2 is going to be even more shocking.

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 10:44

@Pipsquiggle out of interest, I am half guessing, the affair rumour wasn’t re: Rose?

IF he did have an affair I am not sure why so many are set that it must be with her. I have similar (& pretty sound) contacts but interestingly the rumour was ‘slightly
different & curiously echoed what I’d already half surmised for myself. Maybe some ‘affairs’ are much better understood by a married partner & so ultimately easier to move past? Maybe, especially if a ‘drunken one off’ or similar? Not an ‘affair of the heart’ etc?

William is decent & a man of integrity at his core IMO.

Salacious secrets have a habit of getting out eventually, especially if something happened at a party or similar (if too many aware). I do wonder, if/when they do, there’s an ‘element’ of truth as to approximate time, milieu, etc…(?)

All that said I DO feel it’s unlikely to be correct & I hope not. I am still highly sceptical. It’s interesting I’d independently contemplated though.

However, iIF accurate , this is maybe what Harry means by ‘they were willing to lie to protect my brother’ but not for him (as others upthread have suggested ) & maybe why W lost his temper re: ‘dog bowl gate’? Was THIS what this incident was truly about?

If this piece of ‘gossip’ was originally within the edited 400 pages, will it be in ‘book 2’ & is it a bargaining chip for H? My feeling is this may be why we’ll see ‘negotiations’ of a sort with H & family, but IF true & H ‘pressed’ the button’ I can’t help but think the fallout would ultimately be worse for H & M all round & reflect on them extremely badly.

vera99 · 21/01/2023 10:44

bobbytorq · 21/01/2023 10:39

And how do you know that?

Oh dear .....

www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/02/inside-king-george-vis-complicated-love-life-letter-affair

MonsoonMadness · 21/01/2023 10:44

Yes Harry definitely knows something that’s for sure.

Porridgeislife · 21/01/2023 10:47

The Daily Mail was all over it for six months or so within the limitations of the super injunction. There were a LOT of stories run about Rose Hanbury, the turnip toffs, how close she was to the Windsors.

Basically it’s same to assume that if the DM starts running innocuous stories about a non-celeb and linking them to someone famous, there’s a lot more to the story.

Porridgeislife · 21/01/2023 10:47

Safe to assume, sorry

MonsoonMadness · 21/01/2023 10:48

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 10:44

@Pipsquiggle out of interest, I am half guessing, the affair rumour wasn’t re: Rose?

IF he did have an affair I am not sure why so many are set that it must be with her. I have similar (& pretty sound) contacts but interestingly the rumour was ‘slightly
different & curiously echoed what I’d already half surmised for myself. Maybe some ‘affairs’ are much better understood by a married partner & so ultimately easier to move past? Maybe, especially if a ‘drunken one off’ or similar? Not an ‘affair of the heart’ etc?

William is decent & a man of integrity at his core IMO.

Salacious secrets have a habit of getting out eventually, especially if something happened at a party or similar (if too many aware). I do wonder, if/when they do, there’s an ‘element’ of truth as to approximate time, milieu, etc…(?)

All that said I DO feel it’s unlikely to be correct & I hope not. I am still highly sceptical. It’s interesting I’d independently contemplated though.

However, iIF accurate , this is maybe what Harry means by ‘they were willing to lie to protect my brother’ but not for him (as others upthread have suggested ) & maybe why W lost his temper re: ‘dog bowl gate’? Was THIS what this incident was truly about?

If this piece of ‘gossip’ was originally within the edited 400 pages, will it be in ‘book 2’ & is it a bargaining chip for H? My feeling is this may be why we’ll see ‘negotiations’ of a sort with H & family, but IF true & H ‘pressed’ the button’ I can’t help but think the fallout would ultimately be worse for H & M all round & reflect on them extremely badly.

You have to tell us more now!!
I highly doubt if it was Rose that Pippa would have called her daughter Rose. Rose was also seen walking. To church with them not long after.
Something happened, though what exactly it was is uncertain. Perhaps he got drunk and flirted a bit too much or something like that.

vera99 · 21/01/2023 10:51

Porridgeislife · 21/01/2023 10:47

The Daily Mail was all over it for six months or so within the limitations of the super injunction. There were a LOT of stories run about Rose Hanbury, the turnip toffs, how close she was to the Windsors.

Basically it’s same to assume that if the DM starts running innocuous stories about a non-celeb and linking them to someone famous, there’s a lot more to the story.

They did a lot of Cliff Richard stuff back in the day - an article about an unnamed pop star accused of being a paedophile say and then a few pages later Cliff Richard enjoys the sun on his Portugal estate kind of stuff. They love doing the jigsaw identification stories probably because they get off on it in some weird way.

Roussette · 21/01/2023 10:51

BoyPlaystheAccordian · 21/01/2023 10:40

I have no inside information but my feeling is that the rumours are true about William. I think this is what is making Harry so full of rage with the media, his brother and the palace. At the time of this alleged affair the tabloids were just full of stories about Harry and Meghan. I believe the story about William was suppressed. Harry doesn't care about the cheating but the fact that the Palace acted to suppress stories about William and Kate but did apparently nothing to suppress stories about him and Meghan - and that he further believes that the press were deliberately fed stories about him and Meghan in 'exchange' for keeping William out of the press.

It fits with his rage and his continuing demands for an apology and his latest insinuations that he has very damaging information that didn't make it into this book.

I am no fan of Harry and Meghan but I can understand that it must be incredibly frustrating to be savaged by a press that seems only to publish complimentary pieces about William and Kate (in full knowledge that William has cheated).

Aand these are my thoughts on it too.

Plbrookes · 21/01/2023 10:52

SiobhanSharpe · 21/01/2023 10:28

Corbyn has been married three times and also had a well-known relationship with a high profile Labour MP.

That's true but entirely his own business. He also appointed the MP with whom he had an affair to his Shadow Cabinet and, strangely, the recruitment process for his Shadow Chancellor's political adviser concluded that his son was the best candidate. That might have legitimately inform someone's views on whether he would indeed have pushed for equality of opportunity. He is a staunch supporter of the alleged rapist Julian Assange, who avoided possible prosecution for his alleged crimes by hiding in the Ecuadorean Embassy, which might influence people's views on the extent to which he (Corbyn) would fight for women's rights. And the fact of being called 'a racist and an anti-Semite' by an MP from his own party is certainly something that should have been in the public domain.

Leadbridge · 21/01/2023 10:53

I don't believe the rumours, may be true of course but it is none of my business and also no evidence at all (apart from fifth hand anecdotes).

Having been at the receiving end of affair rumours I also don't believe the no smoke with out fire thing either.

One of my neighbours (since moved twice) started a rumour that I was having an affair with another neighbour, and she really believed it. There was 'evidence' in that we spent time together when my DH was on call/late shift (doctor) and helped each other out (as we also did when DH was at home!). Yes, we genuinely were friends - he was single at the start of the friendship, subsequently married and had three children. DH and I are still friends with him and his wife (long distance now though). I didn't find out about the rumour until we weren't neighbours any more - simply because she made a really odd comment to me and I relayed it to another ex neighbour, who explained...

Same thing happened at work. Spotted out with a colleague of the same sex = friends, spotted out with a colleague of the opposite sex = affair. Lesson learnt though, I now wouldn't do that - in fact I shy away from meeting colleagues outside of work in anything other than groups regardless of sex.

Jewel1968 · 21/01/2023 10:54

I just googled infidelity and apparently in the UK a 2017 study found that 57% of males and 54% of females admitted to infidelity. Not sure how robust the research was. I personally don't many that have cheated.

According to the office of national statistics infidelity is the most common reason cited for divorce.

Still no idea if W cheated and not sure it matters to us strangers. Although it's interesting from a sociological and psychological perspective and perhaps a constitutional perspective.

Coxspurplepippin · 21/01/2023 10:55

Porridgeislife · 21/01/2023 10:47

The Daily Mail was all over it for six months or so within the limitations of the super injunction. There were a LOT of stories run about Rose Hanbury, the turnip toffs, how close she was to the Windsors.

Basically it’s same to assume that if the DM starts running innocuous stories about a non-celeb and linking them to someone famous, there’s a lot more to the story.

There is no injunction.

BoyPlaystheAccordian · 21/01/2023 10:58

It also matches Harry's narrative that he has married for 'love' and not someone who fits the mould. He talks about his relationship with Meghan as though it is the greatest love story of all time. In his experience though - of mainly the men in his family (and circles) - is that they marry appropriately and then have discreet fun. This is the norm. This is in part what destroyed his Mother's life. He is his mother's son. His experience sets him hugely apart from the other men in his family (and makes him and Meghan unique), which is why he waxes lyrical about it all the time.

They probably see it as profoundly unjust that they are slated in the press when there are much bigger stories that could be printed (but are not).

I can see how this would eat away at a person.

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 10:58

@MonsoonMadness No, not flirting with Rose etc…that would be harder (possibly) for Kate to move past.

@billy1966 sadly you’re right & also CEOs etc often have personality disorders which makes this behaviour even more probable. How depressing but there are some good ones too.

@BoyPlaystheAccordian yes, exactly, spot on.

Coxspurplepippin · 21/01/2023 10:58

vera99 · 21/01/2023 10:51

They did a lot of Cliff Richard stuff back in the day - an article about an unnamed pop star accused of being a paedophile say and then a few pages later Cliff Richard enjoys the sun on his Portugal estate kind of stuff. They love doing the jigsaw identification stories probably because they get off on it in some weird way.

And of course none of the stuff about Cliff Richard was true and the reporting nearly ruined his life.

See also Christopher Jefferies. Trial by media of a completely innocent man.

queenofarles · 21/01/2023 10:59

If this piece of ‘gossip’ was originally within the edited 400 pages, will it be in ‘book 2’ & is it a bargaining chip for H? My feeling is this may be why we’ll see ‘negotiations’ of a sort with H & family, but IF true & H ‘pressed’ the button’ I can’t help but think the fallout would ultimately be worse for H & M all round & reflect on them extremely badly.

but there are so many allegations about a certain spouse and a certain deceased Someone , more damaging than W alleged affairs ,

it would be easier for William to just admit the rumours and move on and not just be used as leverage by Harry .

Bill admitted his affair , Hillary forgave him and they moved on, so did everyone else.

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 11:02

@Jewel1968 how damaging might it be in the context of a future king/the monarchy, if true do you think? I think given the history re: Charles, etc, could be very problematic. Younger people are not so pro monarchy.

MonsoonMadness · 21/01/2023 11:04

BoyPlaystheAccordian · 21/01/2023 10:40

I have no inside information but my feeling is that the rumours are true about William. I think this is what is making Harry so full of rage with the media, his brother and the palace. At the time of this alleged affair the tabloids were just full of stories about Harry and Meghan. I believe the story about William was suppressed. Harry doesn't care about the cheating but the fact that the Palace acted to suppress stories about William and Kate but did apparently nothing to suppress stories about him and Meghan - and that he further believes that the press were deliberately fed stories about him and Meghan in 'exchange' for keeping William out of the press.

It fits with his rage and his continuing demands for an apology and his latest insinuations that he has very damaging information that didn't make it into this book.

I am no fan of Harry and Meghan but I can understand that it must be incredibly frustrating to be savaged by a press that seems only to publish complimentary pieces about William and Kate (in full knowledge that William has cheated).

ive been told that by someone who worked closely with them but whether that
iw true I don’t know.

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 11:05

@queenofarles I agree but might depend on context.

pocketvenuss · 21/01/2023 11:05

sydneysunset · 21/01/2023 08:07

Whenever new polls come out highlighting Will and Kate's popularity, the same old posters come on here and spread stupid rumours about them.

Sorry Meghan - your minions aren't fooling anyone

Grow up

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