Iran’s comments on Harry

[PoochPalace]

As expected, Harry I’ll advised comments on his active service has drawn attention from extremists.

Iran’s Foreign Ministry have alleged tweeted:

“The British regime, whose royal family member, sees the killing of 25 innocent people as removal of chess pieces and has no regrets over the issue, and those who turn a blind eye to this war crime, are in no position to preach others on human rights.”

Harry breaks an armed forces code not to talk about how many people he has killed and somehow it's the King's fault

At no point did I say that it was the kings fault. He wasn't even king at the time

Gosh, how have we got to the point that Harry is absolved of all responsibility, accountability and fault in his life

I never said that either

He's a grown man who is making his own decisions, which he stands by, and yet, because he lost his mother at 12, the nation is still supposed to be babying him at 38

It's a lot more to do with him just loosing him mum, but I for one do not think he needs babying at all.

Why can't we just accept he's a middle-aged adult who has made bad decisions?
I think its because people have a difference of opinion on what those bad decisions are that seems to create the problem.

Grow the fuck up, Harry, and be more judicious in your words,as befits a man who has been given, through no achievement of his own, a huge international platform

And the anger shown towards him baffles me. People needing to swear and get all het up about it. But just because he has was born into the Royal Family and experienced elements of privilege does not mean he looses his right to an opinion or give his side of a story.
If you get so angry about it, why do

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The responsibility lies with Harry. Who knows, perhaps he was advised against it but he didn’t listen? With his bad relationship/experience with press, if he trusts them so little, he should have known it would be taken out of context and that it would have repercussions. I expect his security team will have to ramp up / tighten security, increasing cost to him. I haven’t read the book but was there so little else to fill the pages that he had to add this detail? Could it have been left out with Harry still getting his point across? I would not be happy if I was Meghan. Poor children too.

In what way was it out of context? Its a simple statement of fact made by him. The context of 'helping' the MH of vererans is meaningless. I totally agree with the iranian statement. Harry and meghan should stop lecturing on human rights, kindness and other woke claptrap, until they get their own house in order. Harry has been more than unkind to his family, and Meghan ditto.

Well that’s very interesting whataboutery. Start your own thread on BoJo’s diplomatic failings but that is not what this thread is discussing.

There were many, many posts about Johnson's dangerous incompetence over Nazanin's situation. Lots on the FWR boards. I certainly commented on them, and wrote to my MP, for what good it did. So not sure what your point is.

My point being proportionality. The book is being fine tooth combed for every and any stick to beat Harry and then amplified through the toxic cauldron of the British press , particularly the Daily Mail and in more rarefied tones in the Telegraph to a fully fledged campaign of hate. I am not nor will ever be an idolatrous Harry lover , indeed I am a self confessed republican making mischief that said in the context of his Taliban remarks I am of the opinion that there is no extra danger to the country as a result of those, they are shared by other veterans and if there is an increased danger then it is to himself and his family and he will ultimately be answerable for that.

If he is smarter than many give him credit for then he may have included them for that very reason to persuade his very rich father to stump up his own dosh to pay for what must be very expensive security for him and his family. He isn't responsible for the many nut jobs out there John Lennon was assassinated for just being famous.

His real crime was to fall in love with a biracial American divorced actress and to put his love for her (and now their children) above all else and seek to escape from the stultifying and arcane restrictions incumbent on being the second child of the King. To that required a path to finding freedom and paying his own way and here we are.

There’s a well known joke about a tourist in Ireland who asks one of the locals for directions to Dublin. The Irishman replies: ‘Well sir, if I were you, I wouldn’t start from here’.

If he is smarter than many give him credit for

Yeah, he's not.

This is spot on. Harry needs to think then reflect before he opens his mouth.

HaHaHa - privileged idiot of a Prince writes a completely gross description of a disabled woman and doesn’t even think of including an iota of remorse with regards to how he referred to her.

Clarkson is a total twat. I don’t think anyone would dispute that. But he, Harry and Meghan are all in the public eye and have some level of a voice. The matron didn’t have a public voice, yet Harry chose to write and publish those words.

So, carry on laughing about that.

Fuck me, surely there must be a few points in the book that people can concede are just not right?

Seriously, the gaslighting going on over the the last week - with regards to what Harry has written and what he’s said in his interviews - is off the fucking chart.

This is just one example of pretzel gymnastics. The fallout from the Oprah interview is another. I CBA to list any more examples.

Having done Oprah, Netflix, the book and all its publicity interviews - let’s hope that the couple can now settle into finding their own place in the world without having to reference the RF.

And given that, in their Netflix series, they said that they were willing to give up their titles - well, let’s not hold our collective breath!

William seems to see Harry as competition.
Here he says if Harry can do...then he can as well. twitter.com/Morgayze/status/1615017185121894406?t=9nFJJJ-d8WGMhQHf6MslUA&s=19

Choreographed by the powers that be to advance a narrative and yes that would bring unwelcome attention to the BRF and make them an even bigger target of course. Suspect the narrative is senior member of the BRF is getting stuck in a life threatening environment and shows what good eggs they all are. Harry looks pretty reluctant in all that like he has been told he has to do so.

This is a protected, dangerous remote environment so there was no need that I can see to ever bring in the press. Indeed the TV pictures unwittingly reveal details of life , equipment et inside the camp useful background intelligence for the enemy. But hey Harry's book - bring a rope.....

Another video under that tweet showing the difference between the 2 young Princes. William talking vague stuff that he should do but never did whilst Harry followed through. Show me the boy and I'll show you the man.

twitter.com/SticksChap/status/1615433574869782528

That last video when William says snippily that if Harry goes and does work in Africa (which he did!) then he will get the house to himself. I'm sensing that William is jealous of Harry's gung-ho, get stuff done approach to life and at some point in that relationship he starts pulling I'll be the King ranking stuff which no doubt is part of the formative anger that has built up inside Harry leading us to where we are.

That is purely and simply a reflection of the fact that Harry had many more options open to him.

@Coucous You might be right.
And I’m not saying every criticism directed towards him and Meghan is fair, but this book was not the right way to go about things, and these specific comments were a terrible, and dangerous, idea.
He chooses to keep his titles and to be called ‘Prince’ (I know he was born a prince and, therefore, has the right to do so), which means that, across the world, he is seen as part of the Royal Family and these sorts of comments should not be made by members of any royal family. There was really no need to do so, either. Has he gained anything at all positive by writing about how many people he killed? Could he not have discussed his time in Afghanistan without mentioning his ‘number’?

It seems a tad weird saying Harry is doing these interviews for publicity. If he wants to get his side across to the public (against all the stories written about him and his wife, in the papers, for the papers to earns millions off the back of Harry and Meghan by all the publics fascination of them ) then him saying it in his living room doesn't really work, He needs to say it publicly to get his side out there ?

I am not nor will ever be an idolatrous Harry lover , indeed I am a self confessed republican

One of the most amusing aspects of this whole affair has been the avowed republicans and anti-monarchists coming out vociferously and frequently in support of a man who has said that he wants to be accepted back into the institution (but on his terms, naturally) that they'd be delighted to abolish.

Or maybe William was finding Harry hard work even then, with his drugs and not getting out of bed and playing on his xbox, drinking beer. I don't know how a man on 30 odd eating pizza over the sink at his dad's house is something to be jealous of!