Iran’s comments on Harry

[PoochPalace]

As expected, Harry I’ll advised comments on his active service has drawn attention from extremists.

Iran’s Foreign Ministry have alleged tweeted:

“The British regime, whose royal family member, sees the killing of 25 innocent people as removal of chess pieces and has no regrets over the issue, and those who turn a blind eye to this war crime, are in no position to preach others on human rights.”

”Context” is becoming the new “unprecedented” !

I think everyone would agree that it would be extremely weird for Harry to release a memoir without covering his time in the army. That was 10 years of his life. However there are ways, and then there are ways, of doing so.

It is the fact that he disclosed the number and referred to them as chess pieces. Plus the small matter that he is a royal. That’s basically like hand-delivering the most expensive gift-wrapped gift to oppressive regimes. They dgaf about context. They just see the most beautiful gift of propaganda delivered straight into their hands.

The fact that Harry then went on air to try to minimise his judgement of error, by saying that he did it to reduce suicides, is a bloody joke. Funny, he didn’t mention that in the book.

All of his grievances regarding his family I can “almost” gloss over, it’s just a litany of a moaning man-child that can’t let go of anything. But this matter, plus his awful recollection and description of his school matron, are what have really made me lose my sympathy to him.

Apparently, he’s not impressed with Clarkson’s apology. I wonder if he’ll ever think he should, just maybe, issue an apology to that matron’s family. Or, in general, to those who have scoliosis, for his crass wording. Somehow, I think not!

The difference is that Harry had managed to personalise his killings iyswim. In times of war, whatever the rights and wrongs, there will be casualties and killings on both sides. Harry has managed to draw attention to the fact that he, personally, has killed these people. So this will make him a target for extremism. And the fact that the Taliban et al paint him as representing our country means that others will be seen as legitimate targets to by those who want to uphold this as “their truth”. So yes, the events of 10 years ago can be seen as wrong and illegitimate, but Harry has stirred the pot.

Its either that - or he's so earth shattering stupid that he didn't anticipate the response. I'm not sure which is worse....

Well it is a rather short sighted strategy, as he may not get the chance to see the court case to the end now, given how much anger he has caused in some quarters of the world. One can't assume his security can ward off any amount of risk to them.

Who would put their toddlers at such risk just to strong arm the met police into covering his security when he is here to flog his books? It is criminal.

One can only assume the sussexes have paid for yes people around them that were way too afraid to point out the very obvious risks to this section of the book. Harry could have easily touched on his experiences in the army without mentioning kill counts and chess, and therefore putting them all in harms way.

This says everything about the bubble H&M have created - they have lost all sense of perspective and reality.

Of all the UK press the Guardian had the decency to print a vet from Afghanistan's partial defence of Harry.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/08/prince-harry-afghanistan-deaths-spare

Harry is Prince Harry: an imperfect lens through which to divine the general psychology of Britain’s veterans. And yet he is a veteran, and being one clearly remains an animating force in his life. If he sounds callous about death, as he did when he previously compared his military duties to playing PlayStation, it is because he probably is. Just as many of us are. And doubly so in his case, because he went through a dehumanising Eton as well as military training.

I’m not entirely convinced there is some far-reaching truth to be gleaned from all of this. There is a churn of military worship, royalist sycophancy and Piers Morgan tantrums, set against Harry and Meghan’s grating brand of American cringe. I’ve been told he isn’t a bad lad, but it seems strange that he and his wife so correctly rail against the personalities and conduct of royals without ever addressing the real issue: that the whole parasitic enterprise of monarchy they describe has had its day and has to go.

It's so funny how people think this will only be used by oppressive regimes as propaganda. No, it's a silly line in a silly book that adds to the global (maybe outside of Europe) view of the UK.

Genuine question: are British people really unaware of how the UK and US are viewed worldwide? Not just the dodgy deeds the UK gets up to in the Third World today, but even the UK's genocide, enslavement and brutal abusive treatment of people based on skin colour (through Empire) decades ago?

No country has totally clean hands but the UK and US are particularly good at atrocities under the guise of human rights. This is a well known fact worldwide.

Of course the global view is more objective than the British/American view. Even just above, a poster is glossing over a globally known illegal invasion as mere "events of 10 years ago (which) can be seen as wrong and illegitimate".

Five pages and very little on Alireza Akbari, Iran used Harry to deflect away from calls of Human Rights abuse by quoting the Prince. For that it has been quite successful as Akbari is now mainly a footnote in the Prince Harry story.

Well if that is a defence, it is limited put it that way!! But that is probably all they could find to present the other side.

The Guardian hates the royal family, it was certainly in their interests to dig out the lone voice that might partially try to put a case forward for Harry.
You can see they very much struggled, if this is the best they could come up with. He was described as:

Dehumanised
Imperfect lense
Callous about death
Harry's and Meghan's grating brand of American cringe

(are you with me this is supposed to be a case FOR Harry)

If you have 'friends' like this you don't really need enemies do you!! 😂

I thought Gordons' article about his fragility - published in the Telegraph was infinitely better than the Guardian diatribe, if you are interested in the very scarce articles trying to support Harry's position, or even trying to make sense of it.

It's about Iran, the Taliban and whoever else hates the west being able to use and manipulate Harry's words to incite more people to commit violent acts.

It's about how his words can be twisted.

It's about how his words have been twisted already by the Taliban, Iran.

It's about how a member of the Royal Family who is fully aware of his position and the reach of his words saying something so thoroughly ill-advised. It's the kind of thing you'd expect from someone with no experience of how the media operates.

I find it mind-boggling that no one said to him that it was a bad idea to include such information.

The "defence" in the Guardian is just essentially that it's how a lot of military men think - which is fine. But Harry is acutely aware of the power of his words, and he talks so often about wanting to use his global voice as a force for good.

I think he's increased the risk to his family. I think he's increased the risk to himself. And I think he's handed a whole bunch of easy PR material to the Taliban and their pals. In the worst case scenario he could have also increased the risk to UK soldiers/other staff operating out there. I'm aware Pen Farthing said he had to leave due to the fallout from Harry's words.

I can't see how anyone is legitimately defending this. What other people did has no bearing on the fact that Harry has chosen to write inflammatory words about the Taliban in a book which was always going to be dissected on the world stage. I honestly can't get over how stupid this is.

I cannot believe that no one told Harry that if he put in about killing 25 Taliban and calling them chess pieces, he would be making himself a target. He either has foolish/ callous people around him, or he said to leave it in any way.

Harry has now put a massive target on his back. There will be quite a few crazed extremists already plotting their next attack on either him, someone close to him, our armed forces or civilians.

He is an idiot. If anything happens to anyone, no doubt it will be all William's fault and not his own.

I hope the CIA has pulled him into a room and said WTF Harry, shut the hell up. We don't want any extremists going after you on American soil.

Sadly agree

Even if Harry had said nothing about the Taliban the British press would have expended acres of outrage on his transgressions elsewhere. The average British public like most people around the world care little for foreign news and issues that don't impinge their daily lives. It was ever thus. I took from the Guardian article that MM has introduced Harry to the works of Noam Chomsky a giant in my book and one I turn to when I seek to understand what is going on in the 'Great Game'.

Iran is in the news for various reasons not least the 'success' of their home grown weapons in Ukraine and their burning desire to have nuclear weapons and the fact that they have the 4th largest oil reserves in the world and are a bitter adversary of Israel and western interests. Harry is no more at best than a gnat on that beast.

dawnmena.org/those-are-alleged-threats-noam-chomsky-on-china-iran-and-a-nuclear-middle-east/

Would you care to check the timeline of when the Sun did that vs the war being declared illegal?

HAhaha!!

A journo writes they hate your wife with a passion and dream about her being paraded naked through the streets, crowds throwing shit at her....and said husband isn't impressed when journo makes apology to save lucrative TV job??

Fuck me....

It was 2013.

To be fair, the whole media played up Harry killing Taliban, no security concerns raised then oddly....even the left wing Guardian

www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/21/prince-harry-afghanistan

A few months later a solider was stabbed to death in London by a muslim extremist, Lee Rigby.

But let's all get back to how Harry increased threat with his book.,...

'25 innocent people' - verbatim, is it? 🙄

@Pointerdogsrule - that article is such a strong indication of his current behaviour..I think it confirms that Meghan may have been the catalyst for his behaviour but isnt the cause.

Iran have killed a British Iranian and have countered the argument of human rights with Prince Harry. Would/could they have used a different spin, the answer is yes but they didn’t the decided to quote Harry. That has been somewhat successful. Even to the point the Taliban and Iran now seem to be interchangeable in the discussion. Prince Harry has been used as propaganda. Has this been done because of who Harry is and that the book has just been published, then again the answer is yes.

Iran's achieved what it wanted. No one's talking about Akbari. They're all talking about Harry and his 25 kills. Which just spreads that narrative further.

If Harry hadn't written that book, it would all be about Akbari. But as usual, it's all about Harry. I'm sure that wasn't his intention but he's just plain thoughtless about his words and actions.

Its all over the news, so it's disingenuous to pretend that the tweet is 'alleged'.If you really need a link then here is the Twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/IRIMFA_EN

But everyone agrees that obviously Harry's service and murdering people at war, does not in any way negate Irans despicable human rights, so the tweet is BS ?

The royal family should not be turning a blind eye to any illegal wars, surely, So by all the people disgusted that Harry talked about that experience, should be even more disgusted that the RF keeping a PM who allowed that happen. As the queen had the power to overturn a PM??

The Taliban were well aware of Harry's service, they knew he was there fighting at war. They know war, they know what that entails. Can people seriously not see that this is just an excuse for them to manipulate certain people in the UK and they know that our press will help them along the way and a small minority of the public will jump on it.

People on here moaning Harry is taking up all your headspace, and how much you dislike him, but know and read every story about him, buying his books and keeping feed after feed alive on here, generating interest encouraging more book sales

So by all the people disgusted that Harry talked about that experience, should be even more disgusted that the RF keeping a PM who allowed that happen.

Harry breaks an armed forces code not to talk about how many people he has killed and somehow it's the King's fault. Gosh, how have we got to the point that Harry is absolved of all responsibility, accountability and fault in his life. He's a grown man who is making his own decisions, which he stands by, and yet, because he lost his mother at 12, the nation is still supposed to be babying him at 38.
Why can't we just accept he's a middle-aged adult who has made bad decisions?

Grow the fuck up, Harry, and be more judicious in your words,as befits a man who has been given, through no achievement of his own, a huge international platform.

@Thinkbiglittleone I took the comments about the 'alleged Tweet' to be questioning if the Iranian Foreign Office had actually posted the Tweet (hence requests for the link, and my response).

Yes Vera, many of us were extremely vocal and very angry. My first thought when I read what Iran was saying was gratitude that she was no longer imprisoned there. She’d probably have been dead now.