Iran’s comments on Harry

[PoochPalace]

As expected, Harry I’ll advised comments on his active service has drawn attention from extremists.

Iran’s Foreign Ministry have alleged tweeted:

“The British regime, whose royal family member, sees the killing of 25 innocent people as removal of chess pieces and has no regrets over the issue, and those who turn a blind eye to this war crime, are in no position to preach others on human rights.”

I can't believe he thought it was a good idea to announce the number of kills. He's damaged his reputation within the military, which I thought mattered to him. He's become a PR pawn for the Taliban.

Who, if anyone, is advising him?

And the bloody sun too, who would ever read that dirty rag. I don't look to the sun to find my moral compass or my ethics! Of course they print this stuff, because drama sells to their audience.
Not unlike Harry.

In the middle of all of this are decent military service people, horrified by Harry's actions and his own innocent family and his own children that now have huge targets plastered all over them.
God forbid someone is successful with their efforts at retribution and Harry pays the ultimate price for his stupidity.

Perhaps public knowledge that a taliban chief was killed, not public knowledge of who killed him. As I said before, the golden standard in the UK is that specific personnel aren't named. The Sun broke this rule in order to create what they saw as a piece of feel-good war time propaganda. I can't believe people here are dismissing it.

Taliban founder Abdul Ghani Baradar is on the exact Times most influential list As the Sussexs 😂.

didn’t team Harry do any checks before mentioning the Taliban?

Swissmountains yes to everything you said,

people don’t differentiate between Al Qiada
and Taliban ,Taliban is not involved in 9/11. Taliban did not carry out any Foreign
terrorist attacks.

Well I guess this is Iran’s “truth”.

Harry is such an idiot to include it.

Absolutely agree with @Swissmountains whose posts eloquently explain exactly why Harry’s disclosures were so hugely irresponsible.

Cut the rudeness, it makes me take you a lot less seriously.

You keep talking about veterans and service people like they are a hivemind. I've spoken to two ex veterans about this who both, when I read them the actual passage, basically went 'fair play, I get where he's coming from'. The ones who go on TV/to the news paper are more likely to get covered if their views are stronger, because that's what sells. I understand that some will highly disagree with Harry. I also understand that some will agree with him, and some will have more important things to worry about, like how the illegal war they were sent to fight has left them with life long physical and mental struggles, and nobody outraged at Harry seems to be outraged about that.

The terrorism threat level has remained at substantial during 2022 & 2023.

I am not morally deficient. I think the war in Afghanistan was a crime against humanity and that everyone responsible should be in jail. But I also believe that those who fought in the war should be able to write about their experiences if it helps them to heal.

But no one is dismissing it? Everyone has said that's not OK either - we've pointed out that the Sun is a shitbag of a paper.

I do think writing in your book that you killed 25 soldiers and only thought of them as chess pieces is worse than what the Sun did. But both are poor.

I understand that you're an ardent Harry supporter but this isn't about that. You can be totally behind Harry and believe him wholeheartedly yet still acknowledge that he was naive in publishing this level of detail.

Trying to defend what he's written by pointing at a headline written by a notoriously shitty paper over a decade ago is nothing less than whataboutery and a poor response.

All of you posters defending Harry have zero concept of diplomacy and how carefully public figures connected with government (Harry as prominent member of the RF is connected with the governance of this country) need to tread and temper their words; particularly with volatile regimes with very different cultural and religious practices, criticism of which can easily lead to the accusation of racism and colonial thinking, even if the criticism is objectively fair and even when it's done out of concern for sections of their citizens (e.g. women). And particularly when you have fought a controversial and unjustified - not to mention illegal - war and completely fucked it up, fucked up your withdrawal, and left the country worse than it was before you went in to apparently save it. Is it any wonder every other hostile regime is seizing this chance, gifted to them by Harold, to take the higher ground.

You were probably the same people jumping up and down when Boris Johnson was Foreign Secretary and continually putting his foot in it.

No. But you don’t speak of it. I know someone high up in the military and he doesn’t come back and say how many people he’s killed. 🤦🏼‍♀️

But where was the coverage of this at the time? Where was the outrage? Becase I don't remember reading anything, and I've seen barely anyone bring it up now for context. Everyone is focused on Harry when clearly there is a bigger issue here of war propaganda being acceptable but individual voices being demonised.

Did you read the chess piece comment in context? There was no suggestion Harry has continued to dehumanise those he was fighting.

I'm not an 'ardent Harry supporter'. There's a lot I don't like about him; I thought his backtrack on the racism claim was appalling, and I wish he'd give the stupid elitist title up. But I am a big critic of tabloid spin, and H&M are the biggest daily subject of tabloid spin out there.

It doesn't matter that there was no outrage at the time, there is outrage now . You can't say to the taliban, look you weren't bothered about this a few years ago, so why don't you just let it go. They're not going to be all reasonable about it and say , yeah we see your point, we'll forget about it and let bygones be bygones.

Did you read the chess piece comment in context? There was no suggestion Harry has continued to dehumanise those he was fighting

I have to say, if I never read the words 'you're taking it out of context' or 'did you read it in context' I'll be very happy. Ditto 'accountability.'

What isn't dehumanising about publicly referring to people you've killed as 'chess pieces'?

But there would have been outrage from the taliban at the time. We were actively fighting a war with them. Harry was still in Afghanistan.

He's an ill informed idiot man child, only thinks of himself.
The Invictus games should be washing their hands if him - what an awful representative.

It is dehumanising, which he acknowledges by saying it was problematic. What I feel from reading is that he's now looking back at that and reflecting. If you were to ask him today whether he still thinks of them as chess pieces, he might have more of a nuanced opinion. But in war, of course there's an element of dehumanisation, as your mind has to protect you from overthinking the murder.

But there would have been outrage from the taliban at the time. We were actively fighting a war with them.

And you seriously think that at the time the papers would have given space to outrage from the Taliban?

Harry was still in Afghanistan

There's your answer then. Publish that PH had killed 25 Taliban and then what happens on the ground in Afghanistan? vicious ramping up of the fighting by the Taliban and God help any soldier captured by them. They'd have gone all out to target PH.

He’s given the Taliban ammunition in the propaganda war and they’re using it now. The man’s an idiot.

I'm sorry, I don't quite follow you on this. Harry was out there fighting when The Sun ran a headline saying he'd killed a taliban chief. Would that not have made him a target too?

It is dehumanising, which he acknowledges by saying it was problematic

I'm beginning to wonder if he actually re-read what he 'wrote.' 'Problematic' as a description of the death of 25 people he personally killed is a somewhat inadequate description.

It's not that Iran would have behaved differently and not executed Akbari, its the fact that Iran can use Harry's words as a PR attack that helps them win allies.

Has anyone provided a link? That alleged tweet makes no sense, even for Iran's government's mental gymnastics.

Or are we here just for more Harry bashing?

Would that not have made him a target too?

Presumably, yes. Stating that he'd killed 25 Taliban definitely would.