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William was in the wrong re Harry’s wedding

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MaybelleMary · 17/01/2023 14:14

Re William didn’t stay over with Harry the night before his wedding and caused a fuss about having to go to the hotel he was in the night before for dinner. As his only brother and as best man he should’ve been there with him. We hear all the time how wonderful and amazing Catherine’s family are - surely on the occasion of his only sibling getting married her parents could’ve come over to help her with her newborn and the children for the night. They have nannies and cleaners and staff so not exactly short of help in general.

my DH has only one brother too. He got married when my baby was 6 weeks old post a difficult c-section. We went to the hotel for 3 nights - so DH could have drinks with his brother and bridal party the night before, the night of the wedding and the night after the wedding. I was fine with this as it was his only siblings wedding. Yes it was difficult for me and exhausting but it was important to us both that we made a big effort for his DBro especially as (like Harry) they were missing a parent at the wedding.

from my view either William or Catherine or both didn’t care enough to put themselves out for Harry and his wedding which reflects poorly on them.

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babsanderson · 18/01/2023 14:37

Sugarfree23 · 18/01/2023 14:10

I'm not so sure Kate mentioned not having staff on Anglesey.
I genuinely think her and William do a lot of the school drops and pick ups themselves mainly because someone on here mentioned regularly passing them. Not that I believe everyone on MN.

Kate and William had staff on Anglesey. They keep pulling this false PR of little or no staff. It is rubbish.

Serenster · 18/01/2023 14:46

They were working endless hours, super hard.........at sabotaging H&M.

The extracts from Spare appended to that post made laugh, because Harry presents himself there as utterly clueless about how important strategic decisions are made. The Sandringham summit presented five options and each was debated by the participants. This is absolutely in line with the thinking of executive management teams: you put all the alternative options on the table before starting the evaluation process.

When you have evaluated all the alternative options throughly, you can confidently make your choice of the best option, and also be confident you understand why the other alternatives were not appropriate or viable. That may not have been the option that Harry and Meghan wanted, of course. But they can’t complain that their preferred option was never on the table, and wasn’t fully evaluated. Them wanting it to be viable, and trying to ambush the Royal family with a fait accompli to force them into it did not make it so.

(Good luck with those executive jobs you have signed up for Harry, you might want to think about doing some Business school courses first…)

toomuchlaundry · 18/01/2023 14:53

You seem to know K&W so well @babsanderson, are you best friends with them!

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:03

notanotheroneagain · 18/01/2023 13:41

Well you know they did.

The palace was in charge of the wedding date and guest list (they told them not to invite Ashley). So no, H&M were not selfishly picking a date. Security and diaries had to be arranged etc.

So you’re using a (quasi) tabloid as evidence?

Despite the fact Harry himself hates tabloids and says they’re usually always incorrect and stirring…

…Even though you (not unreasonably) complain about posters here taking what the provocative tabloid press at face value.

…When the only evidence this tabloid has is from an unnamed “insider”.

…And when this tabloid says it exclusively was told William would be best man…

…When in fact according to Harry, William wasn’t his best man but the palace that out there…

…Which suggests Harry was complicit in falsehoods being released from his team/KP/BP.

…So it’s highly possible this claim from Meghan was a falsehood released by Harry’s team/KP/BP too.

…Especially since Harry doesn’t say in his book that Meg wanted a small, private wedding. Other than saying they both ideally wanted to elope to Botswana and get married barefoot with a friend officiating but knew that was impossible.

…So instead, according to Harry, their first choice of venue was Westminster Abbey.

Nice crop job though, it’s almost like you didn’t want us knowing what paper. Grin

www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/951749/royal-wedding-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-private-carriage-latest/amp

derxa · 18/01/2023 15:07

Well you know they did. Well done for missing the point. I thought they got married three days with the Archbishop in the garden

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:11

derxa · 18/01/2023 15:07

Well you know they did. Well done for missing the point. I thought they got married three days with the Archbishop in the garden

Was the Archbishop barefoot, that’s what I’d like to know.

smilesy · 18/01/2023 15:12

notanotheroneagain · 18/01/2023 14:05

Well now that the big wedding WAS going to happen, why put in a shabby venue.
Just leave them with their small backyard thing and not televise the thing then.

Also, the suit stars were at the reception.

Shabby venue?😂😂😂
So shabby the Queen is buried there

derxa · 18/01/2023 15:15

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:11

Was the Archbishop barefoot, that’s what I’d like to know.

😆And was he wearing ripped jeans under his cassock? I bet there was a lot of hugging.

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 15:16

derxa · 18/01/2023 15:15

😆And was he wearing ripped jeans under his cassock? I bet there was a lot of hugging.

Lol rounded off with a chorus of seal singing instead of a hymn

Papyrus · 18/01/2023 15:18

I don't get this sneering about Kate and William not being hands on parents. They have one nanny, who even while living in isn't going to be working 24/7, this isn't the 19th century. She'll have contacted hours like everyone else.

I'm sure like many wealthy parents they also had additional help from a maternity nurse when their babies were newborn as well as family support. But it seems disingenuous to try and paint a picture of them being disengaged remote parents when there is no evidence of that and plenty evidence to the contrary.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:20

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 15:16

Lol rounded off with a chorus of seal singing instead of a hymn

All done innocently whilst unaware they are “swimming” in waters where there are killer whales (the inspiration for my username, thanks very much).

The killer whales in this metaphor being the press, and the W(h)ales Pa Orca and Big Willy Orca.

smilesy · 18/01/2023 15:20

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:11

Was the Archbishop barefoot, that’s what I’d like to know.

For some reason, an image of the Archbishop with hairy toes jumped in to my mind 😱😂

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 15:27

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:20

All done innocently whilst unaware they are “swimming” in waters where there are killer whales (the inspiration for my username, thanks very much).

The killer whales in this metaphor being the press, and the W(h)ales Pa Orca and Big Willy Orca.

Brill! This is actually more believable than some of the other alternative realities I’ve seen on here the last few days!!!!

Januarysickandtired · 18/01/2023 15:30

I believe Kate and William's nanny did live in but doesn't any more. I imagine they are very hands on parents.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/kate-middleton-prince-william-nanny-b2145827.html

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 15:31

Lol @Eyerollcentral glad to amuse and inform Wink

Funnily enough @smilesy , after I wrote about him being barefoot, I had the same image as you of him with hairy toes and immediately regretted suggesting that Grin

notanotheroneagain · 18/01/2023 15:47

The extracts from Spare appended to that post made laugh, because Harry presents himself there as utterly clueless about how important strategic decisions are made. The Sandringham summit presented five options and each was debated by the participants. This is absolutely in line with the thinking of executive management teams: you put all the alternative options on the table before starting the evaluation process.

Why on earth have other options on the table, when you only want one outcome? And why did that guy have a ready print out and lie about the printer?

Too many shenanigans from these courtiers. Bet options 2 and 4 involved leaving H & A too.

notanotheroneagain · 18/01/2023 15:49

And can you posters stop with the constant name changes, makes it hard to engage, as it sound rather 'trolly'.

Ohnonevermind · 18/01/2023 15:50

@notanotheroneagain

Thats the way top management levels work, you always look at alternative in strategic decision making

You may rule some options out pretty quickly but they have been considered.

Blossomtoes · 18/01/2023 15:50

babsanderson · 18/01/2023 14:37

Kate and William had staff on Anglesey. They keep pulling this false PR of little or no staff. It is rubbish.

You keep making these definitive statements with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. She was often seen shopping in Waitrose for ingredients for cooking from scratch. As newly weds, I imagine the last thing they wanted was “staff” and what would they have done anyway? They probably had a cleaner, who wouldn’t if they could afford it?

IcedPurple · 18/01/2023 15:52

Why on earth have other options on the table, when you only want one outcome?

Because grown-ups know that in the real world, you don't always get everything you want and often compromise is necessary. I understand that may not be apparent to those stuck in a state of permanent adolescence however.

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 15:52

notanotheroneagain · 18/01/2023 15:47

The extracts from Spare appended to that post made laugh, because Harry presents himself there as utterly clueless about how important strategic decisions are made. The Sandringham summit presented five options and each was debated by the participants. This is absolutely in line with the thinking of executive management teams: you put all the alternative options on the table before starting the evaluation process.

Why on earth have other options on the table, when you only want one outcome? And why did that guy have a ready print out and lie about the printer?

Too many shenanigans from these courtiers. Bet options 2 and 4 involved leaving H & A too.

Why didn’t harry explain what options 2 and 4 were? That’s the odd bit.
I would have thought anyone with a scintilla of wit would have seen the benefit of preparing five statements so that when a position is reached by agreement you are ready to go and harry hasn’t time to get his own statement out.
The printer story seems like it’s from the wonderful world of Harry’s imagination to me - why didn’t he just ask to have the other docs emailed to him? It’s a spoof and a half.
Of course they had a preferred position, same as harry did?

ancientgran · 18/01/2023 15:58

MaybelleMary · 17/01/2023 15:29

His wedding was important to us. My wedding was important to me. My SIL came and was bridesmaid at my wedding and gave birth 5 days later. It seems we are one of the only families who put ourselves out to ensure special days are celebrated and to consider siblings family judging by this thread! I am neither a Harry nor a William fan. I was just surprised at this.

@Mummyoflittledragon maybe like my BIL there was a ticking biological clock which is why he had the wedding so soon after my baby was born. They were engaged and married in 9 months.

But the read wedding had already happened a couple of days before. Well that's what we were told.

Lizziet64 · 18/01/2023 16:02

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OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 16:04

notanotheroneagain · 18/01/2023 15:49

And can you posters stop with the constant name changes, makes it hard to engage, as it sound rather 'trolly'.

Who has name changed?

Blossomtoes · 18/01/2023 16:04

Harry was told that there were pre prepared statements for all the options . The Queen had the final say

That’s certainly what other accounts say.

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