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William was in the wrong re Harry’s wedding

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MaybelleMary · 17/01/2023 14:14

Re William didn’t stay over with Harry the night before his wedding and caused a fuss about having to go to the hotel he was in the night before for dinner. As his only brother and as best man he should’ve been there with him. We hear all the time how wonderful and amazing Catherine’s family are - surely on the occasion of his only sibling getting married her parents could’ve come over to help her with her newborn and the children for the night. They have nannies and cleaners and staff so not exactly short of help in general.

my DH has only one brother too. He got married when my baby was 6 weeks old post a difficult c-section. We went to the hotel for 3 nights - so DH could have drinks with his brother and bridal party the night before, the night of the wedding and the night after the wedding. I was fine with this as it was his only siblings wedding. Yes it was difficult for me and exhausting but it was important to us both that we made a big effort for his DBro especially as (like Harry) they were missing a parent at the wedding.

from my view either William or Catherine or both didn’t care enough to put themselves out for Harry and his wedding which reflects poorly on them.

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MonsoonMadness · 17/01/2023 23:57

AutumnCrow · 17/01/2023 23:01

It's a good job none of that happened, then.

It was four days before. Not the day before.

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 23:58

MonsoonMadness · 17/01/2023 23:55

He had dinner with Harry. Why would staying there might have made a difference?

What difference would it have made to the baby that he wasn’t there? His wife wasn’t in a position where she had to rely on him to help either. One night would have made no difference whatsoever in terms of his relationship with the baby

Sugarfree23 · 18/01/2023 00:01

@Eyerollcentral it might not have made much difference to his relationship with the baby but he had two other small children who had a big day in front of them who were just getting used to having a new baby sibling too.

And it would have made a difference to Kate knowing he has her back and didn't leave her to deal with it all.

ArcaneWireless · 18/01/2023 00:01

It doesn’t sound as though that one night before the second wedding would have made any difference whatsoever in terms of his relationship with that baby of a brother more like.

MonsoonMadness · 18/01/2023 00:02

Sallyandsam · 17/01/2023 22:50

What strikes me is that Kate had just given birth and rather than snuggling up with her newborn she was running around sorting bridesmaid dresses and pageboy outfits, taking Meghan flowers, getting dressed up (presumably with fittings for herself) and leaving her newborn to attend the wedding. Once there she had to deal with the stress of making sure that her eldest two behaved in front of the cameras. William was also doing best man duties which presumably involved attending rehearsals. It must have been a real ordeal for her at only 3 weeks postpartum.

Yet nowhere does Harry acknowledge that this was an intensely private time for them but they came out in force to support him and Meghan at their wedding. He seems entirely oblivious of what a big ask this was.

Rather than focusing on what they didn’t do, Harry should perhaps consider what his brother and his wife did do for him.

Absolutely this.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:04

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 23:35

Hmmm I don’t think it’s so much a low bar, it’s his third child. And they don’t have an average family set up at all, they have a lot of assistance. Also tbf a three week old will be asleep a lot of the time. He only has one brother and he is hopefully only getting married once. His bond with the baby will not be affected at all by having one night away from home.

You’re forgetting there were two other older children who, adjusting to a new sibling, and about to perform for Auntie Meg, probably appreciated some Daddy time.

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 00:05

Sugarfree23 · 18/01/2023 00:01

@Eyerollcentral it might not have made much difference to his relationship with the baby but he had two other small children who had a big day in front of them who were just getting used to having a new baby sibling too.

And it would have made a difference to Kate knowing he has her back and didn't leave her to deal with it all.

Yes, who would have been in bed by 7.30/8pm. Kate absolutely would not have been on her own to deal with the children. I’m not saying it would have necessarily been easy for her to go to the wedding so soon after giving birth, but I think a lot of people see these situations through the prism of their own family life and that’s not reflective of Kate’s reality.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:10

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 00:05

Yes, who would have been in bed by 7.30/8pm. Kate absolutely would not have been on her own to deal with the children. I’m not saying it would have necessarily been easy for her to go to the wedding so soon after giving birth, but I think a lot of people see these situations through the prism of their own family life and that’s not reflective of Kate’s reality.

It’s not but this has to be seen through the prism of William, not Kate. Why is it so hard to believe he’d rather be with his post-partum wife, newborn, toddler (3yo) and 4yo?

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 00:14

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:10

It’s not but this has to be seen through the prism of William, not Kate. Why is it so hard to believe he’d rather be with his post-partum wife, newborn, toddler (3yo) and 4yo?

I didn’t say it was difficult to imagine. I said he has one brother and this is supposed to be a once in a lifetime thing.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:21

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 00:14

I didn’t say it was difficult to imagine. I said he has one brother and this is supposed to be a once in a lifetime thing.

You said it wouldn’t make a difference to the baby or Kate.

You didn’t mention how it would affect the other two or William, how he may have wanted to be there for his kids.

ArcaneWireless · 18/01/2023 00:21

And his third child was a once in a lifetime thing.

HelsinkiLights · 18/01/2023 00:33

If family was sooooooo important to Harry with him wanting William to stay the night, then why didn't that apply to Meghan? She has nice relatives too that she didn't invite for whatever reason? 🤷‍♀️

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 00:36

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:21

You said it wouldn’t make a difference to the baby or Kate.

You didn’t mention how it would affect the other two or William, how he may have wanted to be there for his kids.

In my opinion the other two children would most likely have been fine and excited to be part of a big event. A lot of people seem to think children share adult anxieties, very often they don’t. He would have been there for the children on the day though and they have a mother who seems calm and reassuring.
Yes of course @ArcaneWireless but Louis wasn’t born the day before the wedding.
I think if there’s a low bar it’s what mothers and children can cope with when daddy is away for 14 hours

HelsinkiLights · 18/01/2023 00:38

Maybe William just didn't want to be there as a pp said "it's an invitation not a summons."

TiddyTidTwo · 18/01/2023 00:48

So with a newborn baby, 2 young children and a wife still recovering and William put them first over a single, grown man who lives next door??

Lol

AliceOlive · 18/01/2023 00:53

William obviously just didn’t want to stay the night and wanted to be at home with his wife and children. Given everything coming out of the horse’s mouth now, it was probably not a difficult choice.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:57

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 00:36

In my opinion the other two children would most likely have been fine and excited to be part of a big event. A lot of people seem to think children share adult anxieties, very often they don’t. He would have been there for the children on the day though and they have a mother who seems calm and reassuring.
Yes of course @ArcaneWireless but Louis wasn’t born the day before the wedding.
I think if there’s a low bar it’s what mothers and children can cope with when daddy is away for 14 hours

In your opinion despite not knowing the children Grin

But again you’re still missing the point. Even if they would have been fine, William wanted to be with his children that night. Maybe he couldn’t bear to be apart from his 3-week old, maybe he wanted to be there when Charlotte and George woke up. Maybe he wanted to support Kate with Louis in the night. We don’t know.

But that’s what he as a parent wanted to do.

babsanderson · 18/01/2023 01:01

William should have had dinner with Harry. He could then have returned to Kate.

www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230116161744/prince-harry-frustration-prince-william-royal-wedding-eve/

babsanderson · 18/01/2023 01:02

Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 23:58

What difference would it have made to the baby that he wasn’t there? His wife wasn’t in a position where she had to rely on him to help either. One night would have made no difference whatsoever in terms of his relationship with the baby

He did NOT have dinner with Harry.

JaneJeffer · 18/01/2023 01:04

So a third child doesn’t matter as much as the first two now?
It'll all come out in Louis' book The Spare's Spare @ArcaneWireless. Uncle Harold thinks he had it bad.

toomuchlaundry · 18/01/2023 01:06

Did William also have to be there the night before the day they really got ‘married’ 3 days before the wedding at Windsor Castle?

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 01:08

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 00:57

In your opinion despite not knowing the children Grin

But again you’re still missing the point. Even if they would have been fine, William wanted to be with his children that night. Maybe he couldn’t bear to be apart from his 3-week old, maybe he wanted to be there when Charlotte and George woke up. Maybe he wanted to support Kate with Louis in the night. We don’t know.

But that’s what he as a parent wanted to do.

But you don’t know them either? Your point is no more valid than mine.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 18/01/2023 01:08

babsanderson · 18/01/2023 01:02

He did NOT have dinner with Harry.

So Harry is lying in the book when he says William did?

Eyerollcentral · 18/01/2023 01:10

babsanderson · 18/01/2023 01:02

He did NOT have dinner with Harry.

Harry says he did in the book - he wasn’t going to and then he had tea w Liz, next thing rang harry and said I’ll come over and see the crowds with you. Then harry says he did have dinner then went home

toomuchlaundry · 18/01/2023 01:12

Have you read the book @babsanderson?