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Queen offered Meghan a choice of tiaras

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 13:17

Below is an extract that describes Meghan being given the tiara to wear for her wedding by the Queen. Another passage describes hoe Angela Levin would not allow Meghan to get access to the tiara before her wedding to practise it with her hairdresser.

"Next came the question of a tiara. My aunts asked if Meg would like to wear my mother’s. We were both touched. Meg then spent hours and hours with her dress designer, getting the veil to match the tiara, giving it a similar scalloped edge. Shortly before the wedding, however, Granny reached out. She offered us access to her collection of tiaras. She even invited us to Buckingham Palace to try them on. Do come over, I remember her saying.
Extraordinary morning. We walked into Granny’s private dressing room, right next to her bedroom, a space I’d never been in. Along with Granny was a jewelry expert, an eminent historian who knew the lineage of each stone in the royal collection. Also present was Granny’s dresser and confidante, Angela. Five tiaras were arrayed on a table, and Granny directed Meg to try on each one before a full-length mirror. I stood behind, watching.
One was all emeralds. One was aquamarines. Each was more dazzlingly stunning than the last. Each took my breath. I wasn’t the only one. Granny said to Meg quite tenderly: Tiaras suit you.
Meg melted. Thank you, Ma’am.
One of the five, however, stood out. Everyone agreed. It was beautiful, seemingly made for Meg. Granny said it would be placed in a safe directly and she looked forward to seeing it on Meg’s head come the Big Day. Make sure, she added, that you practice putting it on. With your hairdresser. It’s tricky and you don’t want to be doing it for the first time on the wedding day."

Spare, Harry

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Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:57

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:53

You do know it would not be Angela providing the security herself? It is simply an admin job to arrange the security on a certain date.

A simple matter of arranging two armed officers to chaperone a tiara round London and wait about all day for someone to try it on. What could be simpler and a great use of resources! So reasonable

ShamedBySiri · 16/01/2023 18:58

I find the whole Spencer tiara story very strange. We never heard it mentioned before (including FF) which is odd.
I'm not sure the sisters can cheerfully offer it as it belongs to the Earl who would have the final say. I suppose they could have said "We'll ask Charles, I'm sure he would b happy to lend it" or similar, but then the loan would need t be conforms by CS.
If Harry had fallen out with CS due to CS expressing concern about the speed of the engagement wouldn't that conversation have happened quite a long time before the wedding?
And the veil as famously embroidered with all the flowers of he commonwealth. Hen as it scalloped to match the tiara? And then when there as a change of lan with the tiara what happened to the scalloping or as there a new veil to go with the new tiara choice? These details seems very unlikely imo.

Shelefttheweb · 16/01/2023 18:58

Harry had staff, why didn’t he ask one of them to make arrangements? I am sure they could have discovered Angela was on holiday and arrange to speak to someone else.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/01/2023 18:59

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:53

You do know it would not be Angela providing the security herself? It is simply an admin job to arrange the security on a certain date.

She was HM's dresser and responsible for the the jewels as well. Not something she could just delegate. She would most likely need to know that the tiara was required, arrange the security and make sure it was returned safely and undamaged.

Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:59

Auto reply:

Hi this is Angela. I'm on holiday until X, should you wish to organise a tiara leaving the Palace in my absence please contact Joan on ext 6718.

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:01

Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:59

Auto reply:

Hi this is Angela. I'm on holiday until X, should you wish to organise a tiara leaving the Palace in my absence please contact Joan on ext 6718.

Lol lol lol!

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 19:03

ShamedBySiri · 16/01/2023 18:58

I find the whole Spencer tiara story very strange. We never heard it mentioned before (including FF) which is odd.
I'm not sure the sisters can cheerfully offer it as it belongs to the Earl who would have the final say. I suppose they could have said "We'll ask Charles, I'm sure he would b happy to lend it" or similar, but then the loan would need t be conforms by CS.
If Harry had fallen out with CS due to CS expressing concern about the speed of the engagement wouldn't that conversation have happened quite a long time before the wedding?
And the veil as famously embroidered with all the flowers of he commonwealth. Hen as it scalloped to match the tiara? And then when there as a change of lan with the tiara what happened to the scalloping or as there a new veil to go with the new tiara choice? These details seems very unlikely imo.

Agree. If Harry & Meghan told me the sky was blue I’d look outside to check!

Anon778833 · 16/01/2023 19:03

LetsDoThis2023 · 16/01/2023 18:40

Jeeze get a life people!

Jeez, don't post on threads you're not interested in.

JADS · 16/01/2023 19:05

Something I don't quite understand about this (and to an extent the bridemaids dresses), why they didn't have a PA sorting some of this stuff out? Apparently everyone in the RF has loads of staff, but H&M are micromanaging this scenario. Seems strange.

Anon778833 · 16/01/2023 19:05

What Harry said about Diana's ring was that she left it to Harry. Then William asked if he could have it and Harry was happy to let him.

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:06

Anon778833 · 16/01/2023 19:05

What Harry said about Diana's ring was that she left it to Harry. Then William asked if he could have it and Harry was happy to let him.

He doesn’t say that at all. He says in the book William always had it

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:07

@JADS Maybe Harry and Meghan did not have the staff allocated to them?

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:08

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:06

He doesn’t say that at all. He says in the book William always had it

So Kate can wear Diana's ring but Meghan can't wear Diana's tiara?

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Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 19:10

I'm surprised that the BM dresses were the cause of so much alleged drama. You'd think the miniature uniforms the boys wore would've needed much more work.

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:10

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:08

So Kate can wear Diana's ring but Meghan can't wear Diana's tiara?

William owned the ring and gave it Catherine on their engagement. Charles Spencer owns The spencer family tiara (never Diana’s) so if she wasn’t allowed to wear it Charles Spencer must have blocked it, no?

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:12

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:07

@JADS Maybe Harry and Meghan did not have the staff allocated to them?

Come off it. Do you think any one would let Harry organise a wedding? Absolute madness. They had a team of people to help them. Meghan wasn’t ringing round florists for quotes and asking for a discount for cash was she?

Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 19:12

The tiara wasn't Diana's or her sons to give to anyone.

BasiliskStare · 16/01/2023 19:13

I thought ( & I may be wrong ) Diana said whichever of her sons got married first could offer her ring to their wife. - but I can't prove that obviously - just thought I had read it.

@babsanderson I suspect wearing the tiara was up to Charles Spencer not the RF & given HMTQ had picked out a few tiaras as a choice may M thought she's have a real Royal one or just preferred the degin

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:13

@Vitriolinsanity The Spencer family who legally had it offered it to Meghan to wear.

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:14

@BasiliskStare People on this thread said the Spencers offered the Tiara to Meghan, but Charles and the Queen said no.

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Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:14

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 19:13

@Vitriolinsanity The Spencer family who legally had it offered it to Meghan to wear.

What’s your point then? Maybe Meghan thought it wasn’t grand enough for her

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:16

Think it seems much more likely that Meghan and Harry have created a row over this because I honestly do not think any one else was as invested in her wedding tiara as she was. Do you not think the queen had more to think about?

Anon778833 · 16/01/2023 19:16

He doesn’t say that at all. He says in the book William always had it

FGS, how pedantic. Yes, Harry never had the ring physically but it was left to him and he was happy to let William have it instead.

MarshaMelrose · 16/01/2023 19:16

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/01/2023 18:44

So does this mean Royal staff do not out a simple out of office message on with details of who to contact instead?

This is priceless jewellery we're talking about here, not 'who's got the key to the stationery cupboard, I need a new pen.'

😂😂😂👍

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 19:18

Anon778833 · 16/01/2023 19:16

He doesn’t say that at all. He says in the book William always had it

FGS, how pedantic. Yes, Harry never had the ring physically but it was left to him and he was happy to let William have it instead.

No, it wasn’t left to him at all. They were allowed to choose one piece each from her collection. Harry chose the ring and Harry chose a bracelet

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