Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Queen offered Meghan a choice of tiaras

380 replies

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 13:17

Below is an extract that describes Meghan being given the tiara to wear for her wedding by the Queen. Another passage describes hoe Angela Levin would not allow Meghan to get access to the tiara before her wedding to practise it with her hairdresser.

"Next came the question of a tiara. My aunts asked if Meg would like to wear my mother’s. We were both touched. Meg then spent hours and hours with her dress designer, getting the veil to match the tiara, giving it a similar scalloped edge. Shortly before the wedding, however, Granny reached out. She offered us access to her collection of tiaras. She even invited us to Buckingham Palace to try them on. Do come over, I remember her saying.
Extraordinary morning. We walked into Granny’s private dressing room, right next to her bedroom, a space I’d never been in. Along with Granny was a jewelry expert, an eminent historian who knew the lineage of each stone in the royal collection. Also present was Granny’s dresser and confidante, Angela. Five tiaras were arrayed on a table, and Granny directed Meg to try on each one before a full-length mirror. I stood behind, watching.
One was all emeralds. One was aquamarines. Each was more dazzlingly stunning than the last. Each took my breath. I wasn’t the only one. Granny said to Meg quite tenderly: Tiaras suit you.
Meg melted. Thank you, Ma’am.
One of the five, however, stood out. Everyone agreed. It was beautiful, seemingly made for Meg. Granny said it would be placed in a safe directly and she looked forward to seeing it on Meg’s head come the Big Day. Make sure, she added, that you practice putting it on. With your hairdresser. It’s tricky and you don’t want to be doing it for the first time on the wedding day."

Spare, Harry

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
Shelefttheweb · 16/01/2023 17:06

Angela Kelly hasn't worked for the royal family since the Queen died.

Angela Kelly is 65 so I guess she decided to retire. Being a dresser is a very personal, intimate role, not one where you would just move onto another Royal. Especially not when you are 65.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 16/01/2023 17:08

She should have stuck with the Spencer tiara - that one is lovely!

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 17:08

Exactly @Shelefttheweb

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 17:11

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 16:42

@Theunamedcat that is not true.

The Tiaras were offered at the last minute by the Queen.

@Princessglittery The email was ask to Angela to make the security arrangements.

You have absolutely no idea what is true

LittleBearPad · 16/01/2023 17:12

There does seem to be an element of H&M expecting people to jump immediately when asked, with no thought to practicalities and then getting the hump.

Ohnonevermind · 16/01/2023 17:20

We saw it with the bridesmaids dresses, a complete lack of planning

Expecting to turn up and stroll out with a priceless heirloom 🤯 what were they thinking 🤣

I don’t think they were shown Eugenie’s choice of tiara either, far more likely is that MM probably found it on google during her intensive scalloping research and decided she wanted it instead.

ItsaMetalBand · 16/01/2023 17:24

I'm going to have to go back to Finding Freedom but I'm nearly sure that Omid Scobie's version is different to this one again - I've a feeling they met the Queen, the crown jeweller and Angela in the vault or wherever they keep the collection. Not in the Queens dressing room.

Shelefttheweb · 16/01/2023 17:25

ItsaMetalBand · 16/01/2023 17:24

I'm going to have to go back to Finding Freedom but I'm nearly sure that Omid Scobie's version is different to this one again - I've a feeling they met the Queen, the crown jeweller and Angela in the vault or wherever they keep the collection. Not in the Queens dressing room.

The crown jeweller seems a much more likely person to arrange security than the QUEEN’S dresser

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 17:25

ItsaMetalBand · 16/01/2023 17:24

I'm going to have to go back to Finding Freedom but I'm nearly sure that Omid Scobie's version is different to this one again - I've a feeling they met the Queen, the crown jeweller and Angela in the vault or wherever they keep the collection. Not in the Queens dressing room.

There are so many spoof versions of events now they don’t even try to keep track do they

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 17:33

@Ohnonevermind Except they were not. A total strawman.

OP posts:
Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 17:36

There are so many spoof versions of events now they don’t even try to keep track do they

They know they don't need to. Some people will still blindly believe it

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 17:39

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 17:36

There are so many spoof versions of events now they don’t even try to keep track do they

They know they don't need to. Some people will still blindly believe it

You are of course right. If you disagree you are a royalist, brain washed by the media and all the rest of it. Logic free zone

bakalava · 16/01/2023 17:43

Well, she already had form for keeping freebies so they had to be very careful not to loan her the tiara to take away and never see it again.

Largethighsbadeyes · 16/01/2023 17:49

So which tiara did she wear in the end then?

Coucous · 16/01/2023 18:05

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

Coucous · 16/01/2023 18:06

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:07

I did not know that. So the Spencers offered Diana's tiara, and Charles and the Queen said no. On what grounds?

OP posts:
PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 16/01/2023 18:08

This reply has been deleted

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

Yet, they were happy for Catherine to have Diana's engagement ring?

Coucous · 16/01/2023 18:11

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 18:20

Harry gave William that ring. I wish he hadn't.

It went to the right person. The future queen.

HaroldsCougar · 16/01/2023 18:23

Or Angela could have done the job she was paid to do?

No suggestion that she didn't

She was on leave. So of course she might not pick up messages promptly

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:27

This reply has been deleted

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

Harry confirmed in the book that he had never had the ring. William had it since Diana’s death. More nonsense

DerangedViper · 16/01/2023 18:29

This reply has been deleted

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

No suggestion that happened.

Plan was for it to be the Spencer tiara.

Last minute change to one from the Royal collection. This took place at a time when Harry was rowing with his uncle, who had expressed reservations about what he saw as the haste of the marriage.

I don't think the Queen would have overruled a tiara choice at that point. I do think she would have stepped up and lent a tiara if there was a last minute issue about the loan of the Spencer one.

Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:34

Why would Angela Kelly work for the royal family since the Queen's death.

A dresser is a very personal relationship and I'd be surprised if senior royals that have one would drop them for Ms Kelly.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:37

HaroldsCougar · 16/01/2023 18:23

Or Angela could have done the job she was paid to do?

No suggestion that she didn't

She was on leave. So of course she might not pick up messages promptly

Harry said there was no response. So does this mean Royal staff do not out a simple out of office message on with details of who to contact instead? I mean this is 101 of working somewhere, it is so basic.

OP posts: