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Queen offered Meghan a choice of tiaras

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 13:17

Below is an extract that describes Meghan being given the tiara to wear for her wedding by the Queen. Another passage describes hoe Angela Levin would not allow Meghan to get access to the tiara before her wedding to practise it with her hairdresser.

"Next came the question of a tiara. My aunts asked if Meg would like to wear my mother’s. We were both touched. Meg then spent hours and hours with her dress designer, getting the veil to match the tiara, giving it a similar scalloped edge. Shortly before the wedding, however, Granny reached out. She offered us access to her collection of tiaras. She even invited us to Buckingham Palace to try them on. Do come over, I remember her saying.
Extraordinary morning. We walked into Granny’s private dressing room, right next to her bedroom, a space I’d never been in. Along with Granny was a jewelry expert, an eminent historian who knew the lineage of each stone in the royal collection. Also present was Granny’s dresser and confidante, Angela. Five tiaras were arrayed on a table, and Granny directed Meg to try on each one before a full-length mirror. I stood behind, watching.
One was all emeralds. One was aquamarines. Each was more dazzlingly stunning than the last. Each took my breath. I wasn’t the only one. Granny said to Meg quite tenderly: Tiaras suit you.
Meg melted. Thank you, Ma’am.
One of the five, however, stood out. Everyone agreed. It was beautiful, seemingly made for Meg. Granny said it would be placed in a safe directly and she looked forward to seeing it on Meg’s head come the Big Day. Make sure, she added, that you practice putting it on. With your hairdresser. It’s tricky and you don’t want to be doing it for the first time on the wedding day."

Spare, Harry

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Damnautocorrect · 16/01/2023 18:37

Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:34

Why would Angela Kelly work for the royal family since the Queen's death.

A dresser is a very personal relationship and I'd be surprised if senior royals that have one would drop them for Ms Kelly.

Someone explained upthread.
she’s cataloging and preserving the queens clothes.
i would also imagine there’s a redundancy procedure given her role no longer exists.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:38

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:27

Harry confirmed in the book that he had never had the ring. William had it since Diana’s death. More nonsense

Harry and William were allowed to choose one thing from Diana's personal possessions. Harry chose the ring. So do you mean he was never actually given it?

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Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:39

DerangedViper · 16/01/2023 18:29

No suggestion that happened.

Plan was for it to be the Spencer tiara.

Last minute change to one from the Royal collection. This took place at a time when Harry was rowing with his uncle, who had expressed reservations about what he saw as the haste of the marriage.

I don't think the Queen would have overruled a tiara choice at that point. I do think she would have stepped up and lent a tiara if there was a last minute issue about the loan of the Spencer one.

Yes. Also Eugenie had already postponed her wedding by year so these two could get married first. Meghan wanted to wear the tiara she had already picked out. Liz said no way Jose, she has already given up enough for you. Temper tantrum ensued 🤷‍♀️

lollipoprainbow · 16/01/2023 18:39

The Spencer one was stunning, why didn't she go for that one !

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:39

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:38

Harry and William were allowed to choose one thing from Diana's personal possessions. Harry chose the ring. So do you mean he was never actually given it?

Have you read the book? He says he never had the ring. William had it

trickofthetail1 · 16/01/2023 18:40

Itsametalband, I have just read Finding Freedom and it does describe (in some detail) the tiara being selected in a vault, not the queen's dressing room.

LetsDoThis2023 · 16/01/2023 18:40

Jeeze get a life people!

Shelefttheweb · 16/01/2023 18:42

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:37

Harry said there was no response. So does this mean Royal staff do not out a simple out of office message on with details of who to contact instead? I mean this is 101 of working somewhere, it is so basic.

Maybe Angela wanted a half in half out arrangement where she was paid her full salary and house but got to pick and choose which tasks she did? I hear Harry and Meghan were in favour of such arrangements.

HaroldsCougar · 16/01/2023 18:42

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:37

Harry said there was no response. So does this mean Royal staff do not out a simple out of office message on with details of who to contact instead? I mean this is 101 of working somewhere, it is so basic.

Yes, if that happened it would be bad.

But if phoning a mobile, you might or might not get voicemail (work mobile might simply be off)

And as Harry didn't know enough about the workings of the household to be able tell his wife she needed the Medical Household, not HR, for her health issues, I doubt he was competent on this either

BasiliskStare · 16/01/2023 18:43

@babsanderson - I am not sure this is quite the same as a email response saying - Out of the office please contact X ) They had plenty of time to arrange this fitting and if AK was away for a while then rearrange the fitting. Gordon Bennett - to be allowed to wear that thing is lovely. I am not sure they needed it at 12 / 24 hours notice. A little patience would not have gone amiss I am sure for such a big favour. Or just think sod it - we'll have the Spencer one - Am sure Uncle would have sent it down via courier 😂

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/01/2023 18:44

So does this mean Royal staff do not out a simple out of office message on with details of who to contact instead?

This is priceless jewellery we're talking about here, not 'who's got the key to the stationery cupboard, I need a new pen.'

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:46

Okay so Angela was in holiday which meant there was no out of office message, and no one else who could help. So nobody ever got back to Harry and Meghan.
Sounds totally unprofessional set up. I would be fired for such a set up.

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BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 18:46

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Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:47

My point @Damnautocorrect was that she wouldn't work for another of the RF, which is what I inferred from the original point.

Of course, I have no idea what her contract states regarding redundancy, pension or other for-life benefits.

To another point, why should the priceless tiara travel when the veil, head of the wearer and the hairdresser are all far more portable.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:49

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain Please do not strawman me. What needed to be set up was the security who would transport the tiara out of where it is locked up, for Meghan's hairdresser to try it out.
Either only Angela could do that and she was on a long holiday so could not reply to their messages, or she was on holiday and had nothing on an outgoing message of who to contact in her absence. If she has no one at all to cover her when on holiday then that is shocking.
I mean this is not rocket science how ever much you all protest it is.

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/01/2023 18:50

Sounds totally unprofessional set up. I would be fired for such a set up

HM seemed to be happy with it. And from what I heard defended AK against Harry's tantrum that 'what Meghan wants, Meghan gets.'

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:50

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:46

Okay so Angela was in holiday which meant there was no out of office message, and no one else who could help. So nobody ever got back to Harry and Meghan.
Sounds totally unprofessional set up. I would be fired for such a set up.

Ha ha ha but it’s not a normal workplace lol I know you cannot allow any criticism of harry and Meghan which makes me wonder why you keep starting all these threads??

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 18:51

queenofarles · 16/01/2023 16:07

Angela Has a book coming out, I wonder if she will talk about this,
would be interesting to hear the other side of the story.

Now that’s a book I would be interested in.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/01/2023 18:51

Please do not strawman me

It's irresistible. You seem to think that royal palaces operate like ordinary offices.

Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:52

I think "shocking" is extreme. How many people would there be to handle priceless possessions belonging to the Queen. Fairly niche role.

babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:52

@Eyerollcentral It is not a normal workplace so that means messages and emails just go unanswered if someone is on a 3 week cruise and no one else can cover? Glad I do not work there. It sounds very badly organised.

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babsanderson · 16/01/2023 18:53

You do know it would not be Angela providing the security herself? It is simply an admin job to arrange the security on a certain date.

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Vitriolinsanity · 16/01/2023 18:55

I'm beginning to think H should have called his book Sieve rather than spare given the amount of holes in it.

Eyerollcentral · 16/01/2023 18:55

@babsanderson i don’t think you’d get past the interview stage given your pathological hatred of the RF to be honest. And no I am not a royalist!

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 16/01/2023 18:57

Some people just sound like PR, and like they joined only in 2023 for the purposes of writing these Spare posts.

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