The Royal Family is incredibly dysfunctional

[babsanderson]

They are an incredibly dysfunctional family with lots of internal rivalries, poor parenting and a strange culture of stay silent and we will protect you from actual crimes, but speak out and we will destroy you.
They really are a mess and I suspect they are so dysfunctional, they do not realise just how messed up the family dynamics are.
But maybe such a dysfunctional family is inevitable within a hereditary monarchy where your accident of birth means you have access to more money and power than your siblings and other close relatives?

Apologies for Mail link but I know the guardian triggers royalists

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3264221/amp/Disgraced-bishop-Charles-refused-abandon-Peter-Ball-rented-house-Duchy-Cornwall-cautioned-sexual-assault.html

@Novella4 Thanks for another link that confirms again that Peter Ball was cautioned for sexual assault of a 17 year old.

Pah, no they don’t. And Ball was never ‘charged’, he was ‘cautioned.’ For someone skeptical about another person not knowing what a caution is, you don’t seem to know either!

There are more articles too.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/09/bishop-peter-ball-case-goddard-child-sex-abuse-inquiry

”Neil Todd, the original complainant against Bishop Peter Ball in the 1990s, took his own life aged 38 after a new police investigation into Ball began in 2012.”

”Any investigation by the Goddard team during open hearings will have to examine whether support for Ball from leading figures in the establishment – including MPs, a senior judge, cabinet ministers, a member of the royal family, and public school headmasters – contributed to the decision not to charge him with indecently assaulting Todd in 1993.”

Todd reported he was indecently assaulted in 1993, he was 19 in 1993. Not a child.

Oh, and you also LIED about King Charles/RF sending “letters of support” for Ball to the police.
“The identities of those who came to Ball’s support in 1993 have never been disclosed. On Wednesday, Clarence House issued a denial that the Prince of Wales had ever intervened in the court process in relation to Ball.”

“The CPS said on Friday it had “not received any correspondence, nor seen any correspondence to others, from any member of the royal family. The information we hold does not indicate any interference in the case by the Prince of Wales.”
CPS= Crown Prosecution Service.

You lack simple maths ability my friend. If a person is 38 in 2012, how old are they in 1993? Hint, it’s not 17.

The truth behind Charles' uncle , Mountbatten , is extremely disturbing
Where is the coverage of this in MSM ?

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/national/23053335.abused-lord-mountbatten-claims-former-boys-home-resident/

So 17 year olds are fair game ?

Now where have I heard that before ?

I think Charles’ alcoholism has a lot to answer for. I have seen it in a few families where the addict’s behaviours leaves ripples in wider family.

@Onnabugeisha The link you gave to an article does not say the age of the child Peter Ball sexually assaulted. You have just added that. I have posted multiple links saying he was 17 at the time.

Onnabugeisha

Stop saying she LIED - god sakes. I'm reading this and the LIED word is jarring -obviously put in there to overpower. Just discuss.

It's Charles uncle , Mountbatten - that's what needs examined

Now I wonder why the MSM don't publicise this

I've seen many posters on here who had no idea about Mountbatten but could tell you all about 'royal protocol ' line by line

You do know that’s libellous? There’s no evidence whatsoever that he’s an alcoholic.

@Onnabugeisha The letters were not sent to the CPS. I posted the quotes from the news articles and the links of the letter Charles wrote.

I think Charles’ alcoholism has a lot to answer for. I have seen it in a few families where the addict’s behaviours leaves ripples in wider family

Yes I heard he drank a lot but also that he works at his desk till late at night. Don't know if that's possible to drink and work.

It is if you are 'royal' as it isn't work they do
They've just gaslit the gullible to believe they 'work hard'

He is well known to be a functional alcoholic.- he can get the job done but drinks from mid afternoon. I would think Camilla is too and that they enable each others illness but I have no evidence of that.

If I do afternoon drinking that's me done for the day. I'm tired and I wouldn't want to be doing written work.

Me too @Inkanta Apparently he is very angry with staff when drunk and will throw things.
Camilla and Charles live totally separately now and come together for events. I can’t decide if that is dysfunctional or sensible! Most families couldn’t afford that.

How do people know he's an alcoholic?

So is Charles just stupid? Or is it deliberate?
He keeps getting "deceived" by paedophiles. Just like Andrew he accepted the word of someone who had already been dealt with by the police.

"In a six-page statement read by counsel to the inquiry Fiona Scolding, Charles said that he had not appreciated the meaning of a caution and that at the time the word of a bishop was generally seen as trustworthy.
He accepted Ball's word that the allegations were made by somebody who had a grudge against him dismised any suggestion he had ever tried to interfere in the Gloucestershire police investigation into Ball."

"In one letter in 1995, Charles wrote that he wished he could “do more”.
He wrote: “I feel so desperately strongly about the monstrous wrongs that have been done to you and the way you have been treated.”
Another letter from Charles in 1996 referred to the process of getting a Duchy of Cornwall property for Ball and his brother Michael, Bishop of Truro.
It said: “I long to see you both settled somewhere that suits you and gives you peace and tranquility – and not too far from here so you can come over more easily.”
The pair rented a Duchy property between 1997 and 2011."

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/prince-charless-letter-child-sex-1833911

Functional alcoholism is not uncommon. And yes people can work. But it catches up with you health wise and it has an impact on those around you.

@babsanderson yup agree. And the biggest issue with any alcoholism is drinking to mask feeling - and you can see that Charles holds feelings and emotions at an arms length. Presumably he medicates any difficult moments with a lot of alcohol.

They have always seemed a normal family to me. Lots of parents divorce one parent dies, etc. Nothing untoward about that.
Sibling rivalry; one brother getting the larger bedroom, is perfectly normal in my experience.
However, I was dismayed to learn that Harry is (or was) a frequent drug taker (of illegal drugs). It seems this must be fairly normal in his circles. This is something I know very little about.
Are other members of the RF habitual drug users?

Your Daily Fail links are wrong. I calculated Todd’s age from the Guardian article stating he was 38 in 2012 when he took his own life, therefore he could not have been 17yrs old in 1993 when he reported indecent assault and Ball was cautioned by police. I have also posted both the Wikipedia link and BBC reports that state Todd was 19yrs old at the time of the assault and report to the police in 1993.

But you’ve pushed me to add to this with your 17yr old child malarky.
Here are the facts from the IICSA Inquiry itself
www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/anglican-chichester-peter-ball.html

”After Peter Ball’s appointment to the Diocese of Gloucester, Mr Todd visited him at Bishopscourt to begin his postulancy (the start of his route to becoming a monk) in July 1992. He was 18 years old at that time.

When they all returned from holiday on 21 September 1992, Mr Todd told Peter Ball he intended to go to Crawley Down, a monastery in Sussex, to continue his training. He told police that the night before he left, Peter Ball said they should “share their love”. Mr Todd said that Peter Ball came to his bedroom that night. They embraced naked. Mr Todd said he felt uncomfortable, embarrassed and ashamed but felt that he had to accede to the request. Obedience, he had been told by Peter Ball, was a fundamental feature of the monastic life.

After a month at Crawley Down, in October 1992 Mr Todd returned to Bishopscourt. Again, at Peter Ball’s request, Mr Todd said they removed their clothes and contact took place by way of rubbing of bodies, which resulted in ejaculation by Peter Ball. Peter Ball asked him not to tell anyone. Mr Todd, who had been totally committed to his monastic life, trusted Peter Ball’s word that this nakedness and this behaviour was part of his spiritual education and was necessary to learn obedience.

Shortly after this event, Mr Todd went to London and met with AN-A92, who was a member of the Little Brothers and Sisters of Christ. He told AN-A92 what had happened. AN-A92 was shocked and explained this was not a normal part of monastic life; he said he would speak to Peter Ball. Distraught, vulnerable and feeling that he had been deceived by someone he respected and admired, Mr Todd tried to take his own life in November 1992. He was by this time 19 years old.

@milveycrohn many of them are enormous users of the legal drug - alcohol, which causes more mental health issues and accidents than many of the illegal drugs.

I’m fed up with it though- it’s been going on this entire thread. The constant errors in facts and insistence on errors that are so obviously not random but deliberately made to twist events to fit a certain defamatory narrative.