Harry just protecting the other "spares"

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Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

Anne, Sophie and Zara. That would be a brilliant night out!

Charles… being the legal guardian of royal grandchildren.

What?

‘The Grand Opinion for the Prerogative Concerning the Royal Family’

Some ye old law that I think technically would give the current monarch custody of all/any minor descendants if they demanded it?

LOL at him being all " guttural " again! Perhaps he/she/they both ought to see a Dr about that!

" I'm also starting to think they are jealous of Charlotte, the actual Spare. "
I think that's quite possible @Discwriter don't forget, M started coming out with her modernising bull about being " linked not ranked. "

She certainly didn't see herself according to the hierarchy rules of the RF! Also, she always seemed to trying to walk alongside or ahead of W&K - if her stupid husband wasn't bothered about pushed in front of/hoiked out of the way/being interrupted, well that's his daft lookout but it was a bit much of her to shoehorn her way into everyone elses personal space. Another example, imo, of lacking respect for other peoples boundaries!

@AutumnCrow
" Some sort of talent show maybe, like the Eurovision Song Contest but with Commonwealth juries voting first and then throwing the phone lines open for the public vote. "

I do remember him saying in an interview at one point, ( pre megsit i think ) that he'd had to explain to her a number of times how succession worked.
I have it in mind that she'd also asked when it would be ' their turn ' but even though i can well believe she said it, I can't be sure it did come from her directly and not someone just tagging that bit on at the end.

@RiverSkater " He's read somewhere about generational trauma and he's shining a light on it but he's taking it too far. "
Well he's lucky he's not viewing it via the lens of Williams fist for talking about the kids.
you have to wonder where the halfwitted one gets his brass neck! The same guy, that during a meeting with some group or other during lockdown, said that were it not for lockdown, they ( h and m ) would be too busy travelling to spend any time with Archie. So he needs to wind his brass neck in and check his own parenting abilities and not just for that example either!

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That's Andrew and he's one very sick puppy. Hiding in the shadows of the Royal Estate with his last interview a car crash of epic proportions whilst his dear mother was alive and money flowing from the BRF to his accuser whilst Harry is indeed the exact opposite.

Thanks for that interesting - one idly wonders does that mean if Harry and his children enter jurisdictions under British control an authority can serve a notice and seize them under Crown Prerogative - maybe W&K can add them to their brood in some sort of Spare's creche...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative_in_the_United_Kingdom

He is grieving.
Andrew was very close to his mother snd is said to be in a very bad way. I have no time for the man, but have the decency to understand human pain and suffering,

@Swissmountains who says he's in a bad way ?

It’s more about if they split . Meghan could ultimately be fighting Charles for custody.

"The Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction Enforcement Act establishes jurisdiction in this country for the location lived at for the majority of the previous six months..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Child_Custody_Jurisdiction_and_Enforcement_Act

“This isn’t an Act of Parliament, but a royal prerogative established in the early 18th century, so it is not legally binding,” Joe Little, managing editor of Majesty"
people.com/royals/queen-elizabeth-does-not-have-legal-custody-over-great-grandchildren/

KC is not their legal guardian, not even in a divorce.
(Apologies for the poor links).

Grieving for his mother as well as the death of any way back into the Royal Family as a respected, senior working Royal which he wants.

I can't see it purely being about his relationship with his mother. It's tied up with his future too.

Harry has a deep seated inferiority complex. And it’s not all down to being “the spare”. A lot of it is down to who he is and the choices he has made.

as children, William was much better looking and did much better at school. Harry had to repeat a year of school, which must have been embarrassing.

as young men, William went to university - Harry didn’t have the grades or the intelligence.

William did military service, then worked as an air ambulance pilot. Harry did service, then left because he could progress no further, due to his lack of intelligence.

William had a long term relationship with a girl from a stable and loving family, before he married her.
Harry had several failed relationships then married a woman who is estranged from most of her family.

telling all these petty and spiteful tales is giving him a sense of power, and he is relishing every moment of it.

So yesterday after the Byrony interview broke, the Times reported on potential peace talks and today The Mail and other papers have picked up on it.

I can understand KC wanting to calm the waters before the coronation when all said and done he, of course loves his son and Grandchildren but I imagine it's still very raw for PW.

I think any peace summit would have to involve the signing of non disclosure agreements and have mediators present, there is no talk of Meghan being present...I imagine that would be a none starter for PH considering the fuss Meghan made when she was not asked to attend the negotiations on the Megxit summit.

I think either way, the Coronation in May will be difficult if H&M attend, there will be so much speculation regarding H&M and the potential of booing, heckling etc.

Although I understand KC’s wish for his sons to get along, if I were PW I would have nothing to do with these peace talks. PH has gone to far by involving the Cambridge children. And KC meekly bleating about the boys not making this difficult for him is a bit wet. KC is absolving himself of any responsibility for the mess, he is far too weak.

KC is not their legal guardian, not even in a divorce

Even if he had been, why on earth would anyone expect him to exercise a guardianship with all the angst which would be attached in this case?

After all, with W&K's three the succession's pretty well taken care of

I don't see walking away from your son or your sibling is a sign of strength. Sometimes it's all you can do - when you have exhausted all other avenues but it is a gross failure that they have not managed to resolve this. One that they are all responsible for.

i imagine it would be hard for PH to be close to PW again, after he physically assaulted him.

Probably. I wonder if Harry’s security found it hard to care about him after he drunkenly attacked them too?

All I know is that I would just love to hear William’s side of all this.

Maybe he's regretting settling with VG. After all Alan Berkowtiz stood up to her and she backed down. She said she might have made a mistake. Pretty big mistake.

I would too. A lot of Harry's description just don't feel like real life conversations or interactions to me - there's always a sense of bits missing.

Nobody except him and William knows what happened that day and with his various inconsistencies and issues with memory curation I'm not inclined towards taking Harry's version as gospel

Nobody except him and William knows what happened that day and with his various inconsistencies and issues with memory curation I'm not inclined towards taking Harry's version as gospel

Very wise, StatisticallyChallenged

FWIW I wouldn't take RF versions as gospel either, but then they're not the ones making ever more unhinged accusations right now

PH magnanimously stated in his Telegraph interview that he would forgive them on condition they apologised to Meghan and owned up to the error of the ways (or something close to that, can't remember the exact words).

IMO I think it's too soon and although in time there maybe some kind of truce, I think the relationship between PH and PW is damaged beyond repair, I can't see them ever being close again unless perhaps there is a break up between MM and PH but I fear PH would be so distraught and embittered if that were to occur he would probably blame that on the RF, UK Press etc. Too.

The problem is how he perceives himself as a 'spare' and that is holding him back. Females have been regarded as a second choice over males for centuries but we have pushed on through to improve our situation so we are no longer there to be married off and be seen as 'brood mares'.

W&K have one, one purpose, their lives are mapped out for them. But they have little choice. Yes, they are being groomed for this role and this is what happens in workplaces everywhere.

I think the core of the problem is that Harry just hasn't settled or found his purpose in life. He seemed to be when he started the Invictus games but he now just seems very jealous of K&W. I guess this is why he wants the Commonwealth role so badly as he really cannot think of anything else to do with life despite the fact he has so many other options open to him which W&K do not.

i can’t imagine anyone attempting to use it but it’s interesting to consider circumstances where it might come up.

eg, what would happen if Harry died unexpectedly like his own mother? What if Harry and Meghan both died tragically in a car crash? Would Charles (or in years to come William) fight the Raglands and the Markles for the Royal offspring?

If so, would it be easier to get custody of Archie (born in the UK) than Lilibet (born in the US)?

(My info on this next bit might be outdated -my first husband was from the US so we did the visa/immigration process but it was 25 years ago).

The US doesn’t really like dual citizenship but tolerates it for those born in the US who then gain the second citizenship on top.

For people incoming to the US, born elsewhere, you are expected to renounce your birth state as part of your US naturalisation. This means it’s potentially much easier for Lilibet to hold dual US/UK nationality than it is for Archie and it’s even more difficult for Harry who would presumably have to give up his entire royal status and all titles along with his British passport?

obviously I do not want Harry and Meghan to die prematurely (!) but the legal situation is a curious situation to think about.
I reckon a divorce would also be affected by the differences in nationality and it would be much easier for a UK based Harry to have shared custody of Archie than of Lilibet.

I can imagine a situation like that (Lilibet’s post divorce country of residence) might provoke a monarch to attempt to intervene on behalf of Harry (or it it might’ve done, Harry’s probably burned that bridge now!)

No-one is going to seize the sussex kids, they are going to live their lives abroad.