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Why are interviewers not calling Harry out on his "version" of events?

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Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 07:51

The interviewers are very soft on him. Is he hand picking who interviews him & are they getting a list of off limit questions. Eg the Queen mother story

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11620265/Pictures-place-Prince-Harry-Switzerland-Queen-Mother-died-NOT-Eton-recalls.html

Why isn't he challenged?

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Patineur · 12/01/2023 09:50

Lawyers for the various opponents in the Sussex's legal cases must be celebrating. As soon as he takes the oath, they're going to have a field day asking him about "his truth" and "objective truth".

Yes, especially as they have tried to use 'their truth' in court previously and they were rumbled! Bet there is some rubbing of hands going on right now.

hoooops · 12/01/2023 09:57

Oh sorry for the multiple posts, not sure what's going on there

AutumnCrow · 12/01/2023 09:58

The site’s very glitchy today!

marcopront · 12/01/2023 09:59

hoooops · 12/01/2023 09:57

Oh sorry for the multiple posts, not sure what's going on there

When it says it hasn't been posted.
Don't believe it.

Dobby123456 · 12/01/2023 10:00

notanotheroneagain · 12/01/2023 09:29

It's all about how things look.

The RF is working on PR overdrive, currently.

Including sending that Patronella woman to go lie on GMB and say Camilla and Charles affair had ended when he got married, when we all know she was giving him a bj on his wedding eve day. And saying Diana had affairs first, when this is absolutely not true.

twitter.com/DeelightRI/status/1602338668991111168

tbf, that's not new. Friends of Charles and Camilla have been telling this version for years - ever since Diana's 'three in the marriage' claim. The marriage had broken down, Charles was so miserable that his friends begged Camilla to go and 'cheer him up' - it wasn't her idea. I don't entirely believe it. Why would you ask an ex-girlfriend from years ago to go and cheer somebody up if they hadn't seen each other for years? But it's all rather besides the point ...

Coxspurplepippin · 12/01/2023 10:02

LivelyBlake · 12/01/2023 08:07

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Straight out of the Trump score. Would like to see an interview with Emily Maitlis or Andrew Neil conducting an interview. Or Justin Webb or Mishal Husain.

NoSquirrels · 12/01/2023 10:04

I thought that in the paragraph where he talked about receiving the xbox (now shown to be factually wrong) he explained quite well how his memory was messed up and things were all out of sequence. I felt for him. I didn't think he was saying "I got an xbox on xyz date", I thought he was using it as an example of how confused he was.

Indeed, in the Xbox example I think he specifically says it has been reported as fact in many books and articles about him that he received this as a present, but he cannot remember. I am listening on audio though, so ‘recollections may vary’ Grin

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 10:12

Fushiadreams · 12/01/2023 08:04

But he has been and he has responded. He said his memory is patchy since his mother died, and his truth differs from factual truth, but it’s his truth he is telling Ie what he believes, which might not be the actual factual truth

This is hilarious🤣🤣

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donquixotedelamancha · 12/01/2023 10:15

A memoir is a non chronological, can focus only on certain events (and leave out other events and perspectives) and is based on emotional recollections of experiences and is told as a narrative (story).

That may be true but there is still an expectation that a memoir will be truthful with the facts. Personally I don't think this book reads like a memoir at all- it's a chronological account of his life with a lot of emphasis on events. A memoir is also always written by the person it's about- this book isn't.

I noticed the ghost writer has been posting a lot about how this is a memoir and a story as told by Harry and not an autobiography of his life.

The problem for the writer of the book is that if Harry doesn't believe objective facts exists it would have been impossible to verify things. I think that's what he means by calling it a memoir.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/01/2023 10:17

That quote about how his memory is just as true as objective fact is quite chilling

Predictable though, wouldn't you say? Especially when the alternative is to actually take responsibility for something, which is clearly off the table

Very obviously Harry couldn't risk being interviewed by one of the few proper journalists left, so now it's just puff pieces and vehicles for his stupidity and cruelty - and still there are people who'll try to defend this crap Sad

Morestrangethings · 12/01/2023 10:19

KonTikki · 12/01/2023 09:30

Harry & Meghan have created this "my truth" and "factual truth" bollocks to support their attacks against named individuals.
I would love to see them both in court defending their version of events based on this anomaly.
There is only one "Truth".

Actually no there’s not one “truth’, it’s always the truth as we remember it. And memories change. That’s why police can have such trouble proving things. 10 people can witness the same thing and all tell different versions of what happened. The further they get from what happened the more their memories diverge. All sorts of things effect memory. Things that happened in the past can affect memories made today. And if in a relatively Constant state of stress or anxiety, days and places can merge in our memories.

One thing of interest, old people are often great subjects for Oral History - their long term memory sharpens while their short term memory dulls. They can suddenly remember things that they had not remembered before.

I don’t know a lot about memory but I know enough to know two people are unlikely to have the exact same memory of an incident.

Patineur · 12/01/2023 10:24

Actually no there’s not one “truth’, it’s always the truth as we remember it.

Really not so. There are facts that are simply facts, not just different versions of people's memory. If I were to say that I clearly remember climbing Mount Everest when I visited Norfolk, that would not be "a" truth about the whereabouts of Mount Everest and it wouldn't change the fact that Mount Everest is not in Norfolk.

TangledWebOfDeception · 12/01/2023 10:26

There most definitely is such a thing as objective fact.

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 10:29

lifeinthehills · 12/01/2023 08:07

It's been proven that memory can be unreliable, so making a few errors doesn't necessarily mean it's deliberate.

Well then he should just keep his mouth shut. Its better than to keep your mouth shut & be thought a fool than open it & prove it!

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hoooops · 12/01/2023 10:29

Surely you are not denying Harry's truth that Eton is in Switzerland @Patineur

Coxspurplepippin · 12/01/2023 10:30

'Actually no there’s not one “truth’, it’s always the truth as we remember it. And memories change.'

Sure, but when you're using your hazy truth to slag off your family and stir the shit, it's not great.

There are passages in the book where Harry speaks of his Dad doing stuff like coming up to say goodnight every night, leaving the landing light on and the bedroom door open because Harry didn't like the dark. These aren't the actions of an awful father, they're the actions of a loving, sensitive father. So perhaps Harry's unreliable memory has forgotten many other instances of kind, loving parenting, hugs etc.

His memory being as true as objective fact is bollocks. 'His truth' vs 'the truth'. He's an unreliable narrator, the issue being that he's an unreliable narrator slagging off his family and the constitutional monarchy.

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 10:34

Createausername1970 · 12/01/2023 08:46

I agree that the RF are just as capable of curating facts, but even they can't curate TV and Swiss media coverage from 20 years ago. In this instance he has been shown to be incorrect in his recollections.

Absolutely he was skiing in Switzerland when the Queen mother died... but his memory tells him he was in Eton recieving a call from a staff member whose name he can't remember!

So funny as he keeps banging on about the truth being told 🙄

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HaveYouSeenNancy · 12/01/2023 10:34

I know that no one has to believe it, and his disclaimer does seem to say 'This may or may not be a load of baloney, my memory is shit'. But unfortunately some people do believe him. There's a discussion about Charles not hugging the boys when breaking the news of Diana's death, patting their knee instead. Why believe that? Just because Harry said so?

Blossomtoes · 12/01/2023 10:35

notanotheroneagain · 12/01/2023 09:29

It's all about how things look.

The RF is working on PR overdrive, currently.

Including sending that Patronella woman to go lie on GMB and say Camilla and Charles affair had ended when he got married, when we all know she was giving him a bj on his wedding eve day. And saying Diana had affairs first, when this is absolutely not true.

twitter.com/DeelightRI/status/1602338668991111168

Your imagination is as vivid as Harold’s.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 12/01/2023 10:35

Fushiadreams · 12/01/2023 08:04

But he has been and he has responded. He said his memory is patchy since his mother died, and his truth differs from factual truth, but it’s his truth he is telling Ie what he believes, which might not be the actual factual truth

Did he say this with a straight face?

Grin
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 12/01/2023 10:37

LivelyBlake · 12/01/2023 08:07

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He's completely lost the plot and if I was M I'd be whisking him away and getting him some long over due help. Poor blokes not well.

That aside, unwell gives you no right to behave as he has.

What a bloody mess

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 10:43

hoooops · 12/01/2023 09:27

Presumably he would agree then that there's just as much truth in other people's memory of events, like the staff who remember being bullied or the Kennedy Foundation remembering them tackling structural racism in the royal family?

I will believe Harry over any carefully curated Royal spin. Where is the video of Harry receiving this call in a chalet?

Hm yes, well there is photographic evidence of him being in Switzerland the day before she died and photographic evidence of him flying home just after. So you are suggesting that he went on holiday, came home to study at Eton on Easter Saturday when the school was closed, took the call about the QM death, flew back to Switzerland and then flew home again with his father and brother?

This is not royal spin - readers of the book have noticed that his "truth" does not tally with what happened.

My point being that Queen mother could have died any other day but that.

How does this one work? So the QM died during term time, Harry found out via a phone call, then they went on holiday, then the news of her death was announced and they came home early? Can you see how ridiculous your suggestions are? Everyone is laughing at you.

@hoooops yes! Or Thomas Markles story, as that is Thomas's truth.
Yes to the staff members story.

But H&M think only their stories, versions of events & demands are important & honest. No one else matters.

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Ticketyboots · 12/01/2023 10:43

notanotheroneagain · 12/01/2023 09:36

No.
I am suggesting that he may have been doing something wrong (like shagging Camilla)when the qm died. Whatever it was, it could not come out. Just as it could not come out that H was told by a courtier, rather than his father for family member.

So the announcement was only made when he was at a place where he made sure he is seen.

This is a family that has sold lots of lies about Diana (her mh etc.). They will outPR you anytime to keep up appearances.

This is a family that has sold lots of lies about Diana (her mh etc.).

And this is a poster who can’t see the irony of her own increasingly speculative, delusional and desperate claims with zero evidence about other people.

It’s excruciating to watch your fantastical efforts when your hero’s have revealed who they are and all the world can see it. Most of your crew have called it a day now and given up - but you remain making up drivel about BJs !!!