Ajay the tailor speaks about the flower girl dresses

[Orangefir]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11620179/Tailor-centre-Meghan-Kates-bridesmaid-dress-row-speaks-out.html

No surprises here. Days before the wedding the dresses didn’t fit. Couture gowns, made by Givenchy from measurements sent in. This tailor worked day and night but they had all six dresses to fix. It’s obvious they couldn’t get it all done. They really needed remade.

I think we can see why Kate was upset and why Charlottes dress and some of the other younger flower girls dresses looked awful.

Eh? Nice revisionism.

america is a race based nation, set up by whites for whites.

More specifically WASPS (white anglo Saxon protestants) have dominated american society, and despite being just over 50% of the population they control over 95% of the wealth today.

Meghan being mixed race is not a true american with the Naturalisation Act of 1790 limiting US citizenship to whites only (one of the many racist laws that made america the global leader in race law).

On the subject of mixed race Meghan, one of America’s 12 slave owning presidents, Thomas Jefferson, wrote: "The improvement of the blacks in body and mind, in the first instance of their mixture with the whites, has been observed by every one, and proves that their inferiority is not the effect merely of their condition of life".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation#United_States

I think if it's the tradition for little girls at Royal Fam events to wear tights then Meghan should have allowed the flower girls to wear tights

Surely it’s to ensure there aren’t loads of pics of the little girls’ underwear?

not something you’d necessarily worry about it in a family wedding, but in one where millions were watching Catherine may well be just acting protectively

T. Saito, Associate Professor of Sociology and American Studies & Ethnicity at the University of Southern California, writes,

"Political rights have been circumscribed by race, class and gender since the founding of the United States, when the right to vote was restricted to White men of property. Throughout the history of the United States race has been used by Whites for legitimizing and creating difference and social, economic and political exclusion."

Where Meghan is right now (California) it was illegal for her to marry a white person as recent as post WWII (no race mixing (an american concept) another of america’s race laws, of which they were the global leader). Even in the 1960s only 4% of americans (whites obviously) approved of interracial marriage. Sammy Davis Jr was bombarded with hate mail and threatened with violence by being with a white woman, and ultimately married a black woman as a cover up.

Meghan is now in the belly of the best when it comes to white supremacy. That country will undergo massive changes in the coming decades with the non white populous becoming the majority (out will go the racist anthem (also written by a slave owner), the statues to tyrants like jefferson, washington and co), and the white backlash (seen with storming the US Capitol (another building built by slaves)) will continue to ramp up.

And on the subject of Britain, Ignatius Sancho, a black British man:

“Ignatius Sancho is the first known person of African descent to vote in a British general election. As an independent male property owner, with a house and grocery shop on Charles Street, he had the right to cast his vote for the Westminster Members of Parliament in the 1774 and 1780 elections.”

www.bl.uk/collection-items/record-of-ignatius-sanchos-vote-in-the-general-election-october-1774

He owned his own home, his own business, and he could vote.

It would be another century before a black PERSON (yes america, not property as you defined them in the racist constitution, PERSON) could do the same in america...and even then it was limited, it wouldn’t be until another century (1960s) thar back PEOPLE in america became free.

As an Irish person I have great affinity with the non white people who have suffered 400 years of oppression in america (my parents marched in the civil right marches here (“negroes of Northern Ireland”), and a century earlier we welcomed Frederick Douglass to Ireland (he also legally became free in England when an English woman paid his american slave master). The dignity they have shown throughout their time living in the most racist nation in human history has been remarkable.

That was exactly what I was thinking.

Meghan will ONLY show the texts that show her in a favourable light.

Also, why were there no fittings for the bridesmaid dresses. Surely, Givenchy would have a team of seamstresses available on hand. Why weren't the bridesmaid dresses ready before hand

I hope whoever paid for the Givenchy dresses was able to get their money back.

Meghan is now bringing up her mixed race children in a country where race mixing was illegal (anti-miscegenation law, an american concept which directly inspired the two other places that banned race mixing: Apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany). The location she is in (LA) also had segregated housing (enforced with racial covenant)...she could neither marry Harry (post WWII) where she is, nor could she live where she is until the 1960s (though many racial covenants still exist).

Like that previous poster I responded to (‘equal here’, my backside), they don’t want to confront their race based nation. As recent as this week, a film about Emmett Till (a black boy murdered by americans, another victim of that racist nation) has got rave reviews, but has done nothing at the american box office, a reason? ...”subject matter uncomfortable for audiences to handle”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_(film)

Exactly

Charlotte would have only just turned 3? It just shows what pressure these kids are exposed to that they cry at that age because their dress doesn’t fit. A child of that age shouldn’t understand the ridiculous enormity of the occasion. She should have been able to try the dress on and then go off and play without another thought of it. Horrible environment for these kids to grow up in, so aware of looking perfect etc at such a young age.

So Ive understood this correctly, Meghan is guilty by association because Thomas Jefferson owned slaves...

The woman really gets blamed for everything.

This thread was initially about flower girl dresses, right?

Nah, I was responding to an ignoramus who had the cheek to write ‘equal here’ in reference to america. Had I been eating/drinking I’d have spat it out at the hilarity of such a comment.

Meghan is now back living in the most racially unequal nation in human history.

Its impossible to read any of this and not be affected:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States

Its a monstrous entity.

How can you seriously call someone a good parent bringing their child up in this environment (and it’s only going to get worse with the white backlash ramping up as it becomes a non white majority population in twenty years).

Where I live it’s the norm for people to have their special occasion wear tailored. Mostly by some very skilled Lebanese and local designers. Generally you chose one and they design and make for everyone in the family including the bride. You can even have your jewelry designed by them and made for occasion. You’d expect the final fitting to involve only the smallest of alteration, if any. And that’s about all things would need due to the fittings you’d have had along the way. I’d expect everyone’s clothes to be at home 3-4 weeks before the wedding with the brides arriving about one week beforehand.

This why I can’t take some of these posters seriously.
Their hate is so irrational that they forget to employ any critical thinking skills

@RLScott

'Meghan is now back living in the most racially unequal nation in human history.'

Human history?

I wouldn't dream of discrediting your extensive Wikipedia education, but perhaps you can Google British colonialism while you're on this racial equality roll? I'm writing this from Australia, just one of many continents that the British rolled up to, casually committed genocide and claimed for themselves all while congratulating themselves for their inherent superiority and civility.

Is it just Meghan who is foolish for raising her mixed race children in America? Or is every black mother in the USA asking for trouble as well? Where would you like everyone to go instead of America?

Blisters have always been my first thought for Kate suggesting tights.

Please tell me I am not the only person fed up with the who Royal family saga.
All families have fallouts and arguments, they all put each other against various relatives and bitch and moan.
honestly this whole H&M v Royal family has got way out of hand.

Yes that's what I thought.

@thebellagio
"but How did givenchy of all fashion houses fuck it up? That’s inexcusable of them"
According to another website, the children's dresses are usually outsourced to a specialist children's bridesmaid/flower girl experts, which in this case did not happen.
Making dresses for children is altogether different from adults, as there is no shaping involved.
I do remember at my Niece's wedding, for the little flower girls, the experts said how long they should be; ie that they wanted them well off the ground, so little children could run around in them freely.
What amazes me, is that this is something that has obviously festered with Harry for all these years.

Festered with Harry or festered with Meghan?

I'm not sure how much of this text message 'she said, she said' guff I believe. But while I find it entirely plausible that a 3 year old cried because her dress was too big I find it ridiculous that Harry found Meghan lying on the floor sobbing.

I thought part of the reason Charlotte was crying was because one of the other bridesmaids was making fun of her in her dress. If those texts are to be believed Kate said all the dresses needed to be made again not just Charlotte’s.

Meghan is an American. We're all equal here. She could be president of the USA if she got elected. To go from that, to curtseying to other men and women just because of accidents of birth, that would really stick in one's craw.

she has no problem making full use of her titled status after marriage even though she’s gone back to the USA, and having others pay deference to her doesn’t seem to stick in her craw at all for some reason

Kate also has the perfect figure to make clothes look fantastic. She's tall, slim and entirely in proportion. Meghan doesn't have a waist like Kate's which makes a difference to how clothes loo

Why are you comparing their bodies? Like the vast majority of people Kate isn't entirely in proportion, she has a long torso & her torso is incredibly straight, hence why she looks much better in clothes with a higher waist point.

I think both M & K have looked lovely, I personally prefer Ms style but recognise that K likely has more restrictions around what she wears & has to be very conservative.

Clare Waight Keller is a British designer, although I see no rason why an American bride getting death threads from the British far right should care either way.

Mind you I also thought that simpler, slightly less fitted dresses without tights for little girls on a hot summer day was a good idea and showed some thought for their comfort.

When Diana abandoned gloves and many of the other outdated and uncomfortable clothing conventions she was applauded for it. What could be the difference I wonder 🙄