Ajay the tailor speaks about the flower girl dresses

[Orangefir]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11620179/Tailor-centre-Meghan-Kates-bridesmaid-dress-row-speaks-out.html

No surprises here. Days before the wedding the dresses didn’t fit. Couture gowns, made by Givenchy from measurements sent in. This tailor worked day and night but they had all six dresses to fix. It’s obvious they couldn’t get it all done. They really needed remade.

I think we can see why Kate was upset and why Charlottes dress and some of the other younger flower girls dresses looked awful.

What a vile thing to say about a toddler/small child!

Small children have temper tantrums occasionally, small children get overwhelmed occasionally, small children are cheeky occasionally.

Small children are learning how to fit in to a big world, and surprise surprise, they don't get it right all the time 🤦🏻‍♀️

You’re a treat aren’t you.

It’s a marker of quality for couture gowns. The natural silk fabrics they use that are too delicate for a machine and the tiny stitching that can be achieved by only hand

Look at the photos. Charlotte wasn’t able to sit still. There must have been loads of unprintable photos of her flashing her knickers - it’s probably why Kate wanted them shorter and for her to wear tights. But what she clearly missed was that it wasn’t her wedding. Asking for the dresses to be remade days beforehand because she couldn’t be bothered to get the child’s nanny to the dressmaker is wanky behaviour.

@AliceOlive perhaps they thought they would play the same game? I'm sure they are hypocrites, it's the status quo for rich celebs & royals.

I didn't watch the Oprah interview & think they said the whole RF were racist though. I do agree they implied racism with some members & agree Harry backtracked on that. I think it's unlikely that racism isn't present somewhere in that kind of institution though particularly when you remember the ban on staff in the 60s & race clauses etc. Who knows why he downplayed it.

I’m guessing the dresses were originally maxis.

On the basis that Charlotte was upset about the dress and had apparently been upset by another of the bridesmaids there is no way I would have sent my daughter for a fitting without me, even with a much loved nanny.

Seems like Meghan came up with a solution when she was in a horrible situation before her wedding which had global attention and buckets of family drama. Where does Kate get off telling her the dress needs to be remade, not fixed?

Not about children

It's not just long. It's uneven. It can happen when a skirt is on the bias, because fabric stretches differently when it hangs, but it shouldn't in this case. It should have been fixed. Or remade.

Can you just image the shit storm if Kate had said nothing and the dresses looked worse?

then she’d have been the bitch that knew how in the spotlight it was going to be, had lots of contacts that could help etc etc

Because the level of adjustments needed was too much. As evidenced by the tailors working night and day to adjust as much as possible and Charlotte's dress still looking like shit.

@Atethehalloweenchocs

On the advice of a Knowledgeable designer. Sarah Burton. McQueen.

What I don't understand is how Givency agreed to provide the dresses without fittings. That just would not happen.

Maybe MM told them it was unnecessary, as she simply didn't know about haute couture?

By the look of the end results and that article they had to completely take apart each dress and remake. I can see why that took so long.

It's just so odd!

Wish Ajax had tweaked Meghan dress. That was badly fitted too. I am astonished at Givenchy arrogance

I mean the final hem was uneven but if it was originally too long then the uneven hem may be the result of alterations rather than how it came (though too long wouldn’t work either)

@Orangefir
thanks that makes sense re the fabric pulling on a machine stitch.

But I also thought Megan's dress was about an inch too long. Couldn't understand why she would have done that on purpose. Not thinking that maybe relations were strained at the fashion house.

I bet there's people that know, but they've all signed NDAs and we shan't find out.

Yes, it might be.

Kate and William have a nanny who spends more time with those children than they do & also had a night nurse after the baby was born. The nanny SHOULD have taken Charlotte to the fittings. It seems being part of the royal family has turned Kate’s head. If they keep this snooty behaviour up then it won’t be long before it’s Charlotte and Louis releasing their ‘tell all’ books.

I didnt think the dress looked that bad. Guess I am in a minority. Still think Kate was rude.

The dressmakers should have allowed room for growth as children do. It's much easier to alter a slightly too big and long dress than one that's too small.

I was bridesmaid at my brother's wedding two weeks after I gave birth too my first child. I was an 8-10 before and went right back to that size after. My stomach was flat as a pancake. She estimated I would be a 12-14 so it swamped me. So had to be taken in quite a bit when I went to get fitted 1 week 3 days before the wedding.

For those not understanding the fix Vs remake argument.

Imagine you take a dress pattern. Cut that pattern out 4 sizes too big for the dress you need.

Make that dress.

You now can not make that dress smaller by 4 sizes with simple alteration.

The length between the shoulder and the waist is too long.

The length across the back between the shoulders are too wide.

The space between the hip and the waist are too long.

No amount of hemming, or pulling in seems will correct that.

So you have to unpick the dress, lay out the pattern again, and actually cut the fabric smaller and put it back together.

This is why when brides are loosing weight for their wedding days, some seamstresses on the last but final fitting will say "you can't loose anymore weight or this dress will not fit" because they can't alter it anymore, they would need a whole new dress.

She looked beautiful but the dress looked ill fitting and creased, and her hair looked messy too. I don't think a messy bun really cuts it for a royal wedding.

She hadn’t met Kate at the point I was referring to. In the book H says that he takes Meghan to meet W for the first time. She gives him a hug and he ‘recoils’ and then H writes the bit about how M should have curtsied but he didn’t tell her that. So he didn’t tell her what mad level of actual formality was expected and she basically did the opposite.