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Harry not invited on plane

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BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 22:29

Prince Harry claims he was not invited on his family’s private royal jet after hearing the news that Queen Elizabeth II was dying.
“I asked my brother — I said, ‘What are your plans? How are you and Kate [Middleton] getting up there?’” the Duke of Sussex recalled during his “60 Minutes” interview with Anderson Cooper that aired Sunday.
“And then, a couple of hours later, all of the family members that live within the Windsor and Ascot area were jumping on a plane together. A plane with 12, 14, maybe 16 seats.”
When Cooper bluntly asked him to clarify whether he was “invited on that plane,” Harry replied, “I was not invited.”

I know at the time it was suggested the plane was delayed because of very poor weather.

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AuroraCake · 09/01/2023 22:33

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 22:29

Prince Harry claims he was not invited on his family’s private royal jet after hearing the news that Queen Elizabeth II was dying.
“I asked my brother — I said, ‘What are your plans? How are you and Kate [Middleton] getting up there?’” the Duke of Sussex recalled during his “60 Minutes” interview with Anderson Cooper that aired Sunday.
“And then, a couple of hours later, all of the family members that live within the Windsor and Ascot area were jumping on a plane together. A plane with 12, 14, maybe 16 seats.”
When Cooper bluntly asked him to clarify whether he was “invited on that plane,” Harry replied, “I was not invited.”

I know at the time it was suggested the plane was delayed because of very poor weather.

I would imagine it was more to do with the row about Meghan. They may have to even been delayed because they were waiting. In the end they decided to go. The weather was okay that day…wet but that doesn’t affect planes. Unless it was bad in Scotland.

AutumnCrow · 09/01/2023 22:34

Who told him the news?

What did his brother reply when Harry asked how he and Kate were getting up there'?

Coxspurplepippin · 09/01/2023 22:34

It was delayed, as you know, because Harry was arguing the toss, as his grandmother was dying, about his wife accompanying him. None of the Queen's other grandchildren went, apart from William. None of the Queen's grandchildren's spouses went. As soon as Harry found Kate wasn't going either he no longer appeared bothered that Meghan wasn't invited. So less about support from his wife and more about one upmanship. Petty. Totally inappropriate.

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 22:37

So was this before or after Charles told him Kate wasn’t going?

AuroraCake · 09/01/2023 22:37

I also think William didn’t answer it to let Charles deal with it. Happens all the time, you get a message, you know it’s an issue and you let the person responsible deal with it.

AuroraCake · 09/01/2023 22:39

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 22:37

So was this before or after Charles told him Kate wasn’t going?

I think you need to follow the announcements of the day. I don’t know at what time it was said Harry was going alone. They originally announced they were going together. Maybe someone knows the timings.

Coxspurplepippin · 09/01/2023 22:39

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 22:37

So was this before or after Charles told him Kate wasn’t going?

I think the phrase reported was something along the lines of 'Why didn't you tell me that in the first place' about Kate not going. Nuff said.

AuroraCake · 09/01/2023 22:42

Coxspurplepippin · 09/01/2023 22:39

I think the phrase reported was something along the lines of 'Why didn't you tell me that in the first place' about Kate not going. Nuff said.

You can see how he would take the ump if Meghan was left out. But really when she was dying not the time.

Abccde · 09/01/2023 22:42

Why would he be invited?

It was important to get her children there and William as 2nd in line.

No other grandchildren went.

Other grandchildren have always shown respect and love to their grandmother. Harry didn't.

Jakadaal · 09/01/2023 22:45

I read that H declined an invitation onto the plane with his brother and others and chartered his own plane but there was a delay hence his late arrival.

H coming over too much of a victim in all this and is taking very little accountability

Icecreamandapplepie · 09/01/2023 22:46

CAN YOU BLAME THEM?

tiktokontheclock · 09/01/2023 22:47

Honestly I think they know anything they say around him will go back to Meghan who will leak it. they just can't be bothered with it anymore.

PinkTonic · 09/01/2023 22:50

He’s admitted in his own words that he argued with his father about Meghan going too. He backed off when told Catherine wasn’t going either. What is more likely? The rest of them deliberately ignored Harry and colluded to freeze him out, or they cracked on as soon as feasible whilst he was doing his drama llama act in the background? Again, he told us what happened between him and his father during the planning stage. He told us he was being difficult about Meghan.

TrashyPanda · 09/01/2023 22:53

It doesn’t take much to realise that the plane was delayed bcos Harry was arguing that Meghan should go too.

by the time they took off without him, it was too late for them to say goodbye to HMQ.

if any9ne has a grievance, it isn’t Harry.

AuroraCake · 09/01/2023 22:54

TrashyPanda · 09/01/2023 22:53

It doesn’t take much to realise that the plane was delayed bcos Harry was arguing that Meghan should go too.

by the time they took off without him, it was too late for them to say goodbye to HMQ.

if any9ne has a grievance, it isn’t Harry.

I would be so angry…initially. I’d calm down then but still.

WeWereInParis · 09/01/2023 22:58

His complaints are often about his treatment compared to William, with no acknowledgement of his treatment above and beyond his cousins. His complaint here doesn't seem to be "why was William the only grandchild that went" but "why wasn't I invited".
If he'd been invited and the other grandchildren still not, would he have thought that unfair.

Pleasebeafleabite · 09/01/2023 22:59

Icecreamandapplepie · 09/01/2023 22:46

CAN YOU BLAME THEM?

Nope

Unless it was him or a Bin Laden

ScribblingPixie · 09/01/2023 23:01

The queen was dying, her family are rushing to see her and it's all about him?

confusedcentral5 · 09/01/2023 23:02

Who realised it to the press that he missed the plane as I remember that headline.

Pinkbonbon · 09/01/2023 23:03

Tbf though the family probably knew he was filming that netflix thing by then. Why the fuck would they want to sit on a plane with him, knowing that?

Like 'oh no, they didn't give me more opportunity to find more stuff to slag them off with. Boohoo poor me'.

He's like a child that keeps kicking other children on the playground and then plays the victim when they don't want to be his friend anymore.

SheilaFentiman · 09/01/2023 23:06

It was disingenuous of 60 Minutes not to mention that all who caught the plan arrived after the queen died. It’s just Harry arrived after it was announced.

DuckBored · 09/01/2023 23:07

I posted this on the banned from
balmoral thread but copied here as seems relevant. Tbh regardless of the ins and ours it’s pretty poor form he’s even discussing private family business relating to his grandmothers death given she was quite a private individual.

My take is that HMTQ was clearly elderly and likely unwell but in decent enough health just 48hrs prior to stand and appoint new PM. Her family knew she was deteriorating most of the summer but I think the actual timing would have been a shock and I think events happened quickly. Charles was in Dumfries he went by helicopter back to Balmoral. Anne was in Scotland on official business and near/at balmoral coincidentally already. Both their spouses were in and around balmoral also due to this. Andrew and Edward being her other children and Sophie being her other DIL (whom was close to her and had been in family many many years) were called to come to Balmoral that morning once doctors confirmed things really were not looking positive.

I think all the grandchildren would have been informed at this time also but no plans made for them to go to balmoral. Although doctors did suggest this was the end they wouldn’t have known with certainly. I’m sure I’m not the only one with experience of being called to care homes or hospitals to say goodbye to elderly relatives only to find them very much alive for days or weeks after (or indeed many more years on cases!)

So that leaves William. I believe he’s be summoned to Balmoral not just because he was a grandson but more because of his constitutional role. If she hadn’t died that day and had eg had a stroke Counsellors of State would have been needed. This needs TWO so Charles and William (this happened at opening of parliament too W had to attend not just C) hence Williams presence was needed at balmoral to fulfill this role should it be needed.

Of course as we know her death came relatively quickly that same day so in event no CoS was needed as death resulted in KC.

I think grandchildren was asked to come to say their personal goodbyes then. I believe the family were all together the next day - certainly I remember seeing Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara and Louise (who has just started at St Andrews Uni and was drive to balmoral from there). I’m sure Peter and James were there (not 100% on Peter). There was clear a family gathering to have private goodbyes and to come together on the day or two that followed. With the exception of KC and W who returned to London for their duties. I’m sure they’d have rather stayed with the wider family having private time together.

So that leaves our much discussed Harry. Likely what he said is partially true (so many of his tales have just that slight hint of truth to them but never the full story) and he wasn’t invited that specific day and moment. He was called to be informed just like all the other grandchildren. HE then immediately assumed he and Meghan should be going to
Balmoral (he said he contacted William on this). W calls his father to inform him. C agrees H can come to balmoral but not M as none of wider grandchild going at that point. H has hump until C says even Kate isn’t going then H immediate backs down and says okay I’ll come alone. By this time the flight is ready to go so no there isn’t a seat for you now as we are going now!! He he interprets as not being invited on plane!

He arrives in balmoral sulking. Says a “private” goodbye to his gran and ignores his dad and brother. Flies out shamefully early the next morning without waiting for rest or wider family to all mourn together.

Simple and totally made up by me but makes as much sense as any other story out there!!

Jellybean23 · 09/01/2023 23:18

You could honestly be forgiven thinking that William and Harry were the queen's only grandchildren . Anne's children didn't go, Andrew's didn't, Edward's didn't. Not a peep , not a moan from them (that I've heard). So why does Harry feel so entitled?

AuroraCake · 09/01/2023 23:18

Jellybean23 · 09/01/2023 23:18

You could honestly be forgiven thinking that William and Harry were the queen's only grandchildren . Anne's children didn't go, Andrew's didn't, Edward's didn't. Not a peep , not a moan from them (that I've heard). So why does Harry feel so entitled?

Their spouses didn’t go next day either.

Jellybean23 · 09/01/2023 23:24

I'm beginning to wonder if Harry's problem is that he's not the spare any longer. Charlotte is.

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