Harry not invited on plane

[BradfordGirl]

Prince Harry claims he was not invited on his family’s private royal jet after hearing the news that Queen Elizabeth II was dying.
“I asked my brother — I said, ‘What are your plans? How are you and Kate [Middleton] getting up there?’” the Duke of Sussex recalled during his “60 Minutes” interview with Anderson Cooper that aired Sunday.
“And then, a couple of hours later, all of the family members that live within the Windsor and Ascot area were jumping on a plane together. A plane with 12, 14, maybe 16 seats.”
When Cooper bluntly asked him to clarify whether he was “invited on that plane,” Harry replied, “I was not invited.”

I know at the time it was suggested the plane was delayed because of very poor weather.

My bet.

Plane was being arrange as Harry was arguing with Dad. Dad said no. Harry kept pushing. Others told to let Dad deal with it and in the meantime go to the plane as time was of the essence. Harry being a prick still doesn't get invited cos Dad is spitting feathers and rest of the family don't want to get involved at that point cos of all the pressure on Dad. By time it gets resolved passenger lists are done and plane is waiting on the tarmac to take off at the first available opportunity rather than wait for Harry. But flight is ultimately delayed so in theory Harry could have made it. Instead his fight with his Dad gets in the way of it all and no one else wants to intervene in fight between him and the now King Dad.

Harry of course can't grasp how inappropriate the argument was in the first place and takes it as a slight about Meghan rather than realising that actually having the world and his dog trapse in to see granny dying might not be what she wants either (as it goes she carks it before the rest of the family get there anyway). And that Dad's already pretty upset and perhaps not in the mood to deal with son being an utter bellend. The fact he only backs down when he finds out Kate isn't going recks of the pettiness of it all and how utterly pathetic things have got.

Harry finds out about Granny's death from the BBC website - but its worth pointing out that it looks like he was probably in the air when people not in the building were starting to be told (to prevent leaks before the official BBC announcement). That would have made it more difficult for anyone to get the message to Harry before the public announcement too. Chances are the very first thing Harry did upon landing was to switch his mobile back on and check the bbc website before anyone called (cos a whatsapp saying 'hey granny's kaput' wasn't the appropriate way to break the news).

But his family are evil and treat him unfairly rather than him considering that his granny dying might not be a spectator sport where everyone shuffles past granny's bed and instead its her very closest family members and the woman she's grown to trust to look after her eldest son when he really is going to need that support most. Sophie being there isn't surprising either given she was regarded as another daughter by Queenie after her loyalty and dedication.

Harry fucked it because of his own behaviour on the day.

But Harry's version of events makes for a better victim complex.

But William, Edward, Sophie etc went up separately from the rest of the royals. And were already on route via plane when the news about the queen broke. Harry arrived at Balmoral on the same day as them. The rest of the royals arrived the day after.

Can I just say this is what the Kaiser did with Queen Victoria. There at the death bed holding on, wailing, insisting it’s all about him. The Kaiser. He was paranoid too. Genes will out.

Probably because William and Harry are the children of the King? It does make them slightly different to their cousins IMO.

Harry clearly has mental health issues which aren’t being dealt with apart from some rubbish therapy. He needs an inpatient stay tbh and should sort himself out properly. He also needs to be surrounded by “good people” not yes people who agree with every word.

Harry was last one in and then took off first thing in the morning. He didn’t wait for anyone else. He could have waited to see his cousins but you know he probably wanted to get back to Meghan. Can’t be away from her.

The minute it was announced that the Queen was Under medical care, ie dying, Harry and Meghan released a statement that they were both on their way to Balmoral. Why? What possible purpose was there for them to publicise their plans other than to raise Meghan's profile by attaching her to a significant family and global event? This must have reinforced to Charles that he didn't want her there getting content for Netflix. I feel sorry that in the literal moment of bereavement he had to give headspace to these grifters.

I think you've answered your own question. He's an entitled idiot.

Probably because William and Harry are the children of the King? It does make them slightly different to their cousins IMO.

But Harry can't pick and choose when the hierarchy is ok. He clearly has an issue being below William in the pecking order, he can't also happily accept being above his cousins.

Clearly the whole thing is absurd - I'd abolish the RF if I could, but Harry does seem to want to have his cake and eat it.

Harry wanted to go with Meghan because they were holding hands, as ever. In order to leave her behind, their hands had to be surgically separated.....

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I vaguely recollect this, and Omid smugly making updates like he was an official palace spokesperson. Found it inappropriate and also felt they were using the queens death to boost the Sussex Profile. V distasteful.

I imagine his publishers were disappointed Harry missed the plane, and also the opportunity to publish the conversations of the Queen’s grieving children rushing to their dying mother’s bedside.

Harry finds out about Granny's death from the BBC website

I dont believe that for a minute. The Queen died around 2pm. Harry arrived at almost 7pm. There's no way he didn't know before he left London

IF she had died while he was in the air I'm sure a message would have been passes to the pilot to inform Harry or whoever was with him prior to leaving the flight

I am somewhat convinced that Harry made to all those royals in the plane with his demands for Meghan to join.

Alternatively, they didn’t want him there because they didn’t want him to leak the news the Queen had died before the official announcement.

Harry wasn’t invited on the plane because his family thought he had enough hot air to power a balloon.

Perhaps the already grieving family didn't want to sit on a plane with someone recording their every look, grimace, tick, tear and utterance, for him to leak in his future books and interviews.

As ever it's always about nuance with these interviews and a lack of specifics.

Was he flat out not invited, or was the invitation not extended to him and M?

Is that what "not invited" meant?

Either way the overriding theme here is "what about meeeee".

No matter his grandmother is dying. He's busy on the phone to his father, not issuing condolences nor working out how to get there asap - he's arguing the toss about his wife attending the death of a woman she barely knew.

No matter that in such a private moment the family may very well had reservations about providing more fodder for their interviews/book.

Finally the irony of him saying any reconciliation should take place in private 🤯.

He's all over the place with these interviews, misdirecting, not answering questions and even backtracking on important issues.

I'm honestly bewildered why anybody has any sympathy for him - have we watched the same programmes?

This isn't about the press. It isn't about racism. It isn't about addressing issues with a dysfunctional family.

It's about money and all the above are simply being used as distractions in the hope people don't focus on the $$$$.

H is a grown man whose had people looking after his interests and protecting him all of his life. He's so knee deep in his privilege he can't above the pile of shit he's spouting from his stallions ass.

It's obvious he's never thought more than one step ahead in any of this and is assuming everything will go his way.

Goodness knows if it doesn't he risks being a very isolated, sad and angry donkey, giving cheap rides on a California beach to pay his way.....

It’s utterly bizarre that he doesn’t realise he simply won’t be allowed to travel on the same plane as William ever again.

There are glitches because of his domicile but he is the next in line over 18 so could be in line for Regency.

He just doesn’t seem to grasp how royal things work.

@YetMoreNewBeginnings i don’t think that was the reason! Otherwise they would’ve just said so.

He missed the place because of his own behaviour. He shouldn't have demanded Meghan be allowed to attend. She had no place being there, even if Kate had been there. Harry needs to grow up and accept when someone says no. He's stuck in a child and victim mentality, and some people are applauding him for it

They were probably worried he was going to use anything he heard on the plane in an interview or a book.

Whatever gave them that idea I wonder!

There was no question of William being there. Charles was about to become King, and William is his heir. This sort of continuity of tradition was important to the Queen, hence the photo with the Queen, Charles, William and George.

I can also see a reason for Kate going (if she had), and not Meghan. Kate is future Queen Consort. I cannot believe the way Harry spoke to his father as his (Charles’) mother lay dying.

I imagine it was all just a bit of a scramble to get there. I don't think it has to be a big deal. He managed to get a flight. They all just wanted to be there.

The truth of the matter is that Harry was too busy having a tantrum about Meghan not being able to join him to understand the gravity of the situation! He was outraged that she could not attend, and instead of respecting his family's wishes and being respectful he threw an almighty hissy fit.
It was honestly disgusting.

So no wonder they left without him! They were never going to lose their last chance to say goodbye to the Queen, because Harry was having another strop about bloody Meghan.

Apparently she had netflix cameras with her, following them around London at the time. For heavens sake Harry and Meghan are constantly exploiting, damaging and attacking every single member of the royal family - no one is safe - is it any wonder the family were especially cautious particularly at such a very difficult and sad time as the loss of her Majesty?

Seriously.

Is that the truth? How do you know.