Page 5 | To think sexism is behind the hatred of Meghan

nevermindallthat · 2023-01-09T13:46:16+00:00

Because Kate is loved for just conforming with a smile and doing what's expected of her, where as Meghan is a strong woman and Harry is expected to man up and put her in her place, which he hasn't contributing to hatred of Harry. I'm not saying there's not more to it and things have certainly escalated but deeply rooted I feel sexism has played a part.

ThatshallotBaby · 09/01/2023 17:38

The men you mentioned didn’t marry Princess Diana’s daughter though. I think a lot of people felt a possibly misguided sense of protection towards Harry and William.
Harry, despite his protestations does not present as happy. I think that is laid at Megan’s door, as it would be if the genders were reversed.

GreensAreGoodForYou · 09/01/2023 17:39

I watched the series on Netflix and was horrified. The sexism and the racism. It was educational for me, too, in terms of the RF and its history, and the way it addresses racism/sexism (or rather, doesn't). Both Meghan and Harry came off as good people (which I suppose is obvious, as it's their series... but then I feel like you can usually spot an a-hole, even when they're the ones behind making of a documentary or whatever).

What gets me, too, is that no one ever seems to recognise that Diana was just used as a breeding vessel for the RF. Charles didn't love her, he wasn't in love with her, he just needed someone to give him an heir. I'm surprised that Harry nor William even question their marriage. It seems so obvious to me. (Of course, I don't know any of them, so maybe they were really in love blah blah, but to me it just seemed like a 100% marriage to make babies, healthy young bride from the 'right genetic stuff' and all that.)

Anyway, I'd love to watch a documentary made by Kate/William, Charles/Camilla too. I feel like the series really put Harry and Meghan's views on the whole thing clearly, and it definitely gained them one supporter in me. I've never been into the royal family in any way, but they seem like the most well-adjusted members after viewing that series! Which seems to be the opposite of what most of mumsnet think/believe.

I feel like this whole thing is less to do with the RF and more to do with the tabloids - it really shows them up for the hate-mongering money-grabbing evil corporations that they are. And we buy it. We literally pay them to pour hate into our society. It's horrific, really. What Harry and Meghan have done is show that, in their series, at least. Can't say about the book as I haven't read it...

WisteriaLodge · 09/01/2023 20:52

Hoppinggreen · 09/01/2023 14:19

Me neither

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Same here..

Pugdogmom · 09/01/2023 21:04

Alexandra2001 · 09/01/2023 17:06

Well in that case you will know the negative press she has been getting isn't new, those stories go back 4 or 5 years.... people are looking at H &MM as if this came out of no where, its been brewing for a very long time.... add in what is supposed to have been said about them both and its no surprise he/they have gone nuclear.

I think people very much are forgetting what was written about her... its the essence of what is happening now.

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Absolutely not forgotten what was written about her- did you READ what I wrote? It's still a huge leap that you can't criticise the things she has done and said without being accused of racism/ misogynistic.
That is discrimination in itself. Positive discrimination.

slashlover · 10/01/2023 08:00

ThatshallotBaby · 09/01/2023 17:38

The men you mentioned didn’t marry Princess Diana’s daughter though. I think a lot of people felt a possibly misguided sense of protection towards Harry and William.
Harry, despite his protestations does not present as happy. I think that is laid at Megan’s door, as it would be if the genders were reversed.

True, although two of the three married the actual Queen's daughter.

ThatshallotBaby · 10/01/2023 08:10

Good point. But people didn’t feel a sense of protection towards Anne. Harry was/is more vulnerable, maybe that’s the difference?
I do agree that women come under closer scrutiny than men, and that is misogyny, I’m just not sure that’s entirely the case with Meghan.

Roussette · 10/01/2023 08:16

GreensAreGoodForYou · 09/01/2023 17:39

I watched the series on Netflix and was horrified. The sexism and the racism. It was educational for me, too, in terms of the RF and its history, and the way it addresses racism/sexism (or rather, doesn't). Both Meghan and Harry came off as good people (which I suppose is obvious, as it's their series... but then I feel like you can usually spot an a-hole, even when they're the ones behind making of a documentary or whatever).

What gets me, too, is that no one ever seems to recognise that Diana was just used as a breeding vessel for the RF. Charles didn't love her, he wasn't in love with her, he just needed someone to give him an heir. I'm surprised that Harry nor William even question their marriage. It seems so obvious to me. (Of course, I don't know any of them, so maybe they were really in love blah blah, but to me it just seemed like a 100% marriage to make babies, healthy young bride from the 'right genetic stuff' and all that.)

Anyway, I'd love to watch a documentary made by Kate/William, Charles/Camilla too. I feel like the series really put Harry and Meghan's views on the whole thing clearly, and it definitely gained them one supporter in me. I've never been into the royal family in any way, but they seem like the most well-adjusted members after viewing that series! Which seems to be the opposite of what most of mumsnet think/believe.

I feel like this whole thing is less to do with the RF and more to do with the tabloids - it really shows them up for the hate-mongering money-grabbing evil corporations that they are. And we buy it. We literally pay them to pour hate into our society. It's horrific, really. What Harry and Meghan have done is show that, in their series, at least. Can't say about the book as I haven't read it...

Well said. Spot on.

Murdoch is the true ruler of the UK.
He controls the Media. And that includes the RF. And they buy into this. Harry is kicking back against it.

JamSandle · 10/01/2023 09:05

For some people it will be.
For some it won't be.

It's impossible to truly tell. But it's a bit simplistic to say it's simply because she's a woman. Harry is also being annihilated in the press.

IDontCareMatthew · 10/01/2023 09:30

I don't see Meghan as a 'strong woman' at all

fatfacemumma · 10/01/2023 09:53

No. Wrong

slashlover · 10/01/2023 21:03

JamSandle · 10/01/2023 09:05

For some people it will be.
For some it won't be.

It's impossible to truly tell. But it's a bit simplistic to say it's simply because she's a woman. Harry is also being annihilated in the press.

Harry is being annihilated but an awful lot of it is blaming Meghan for brainwashing him or having corrupted him or saying that if they divorced then Harry would go back to his family like a good little boy.