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Anyone else think Kate is coming across as a bit precious and over-sensitive? Baby brain, lip gloss etc.

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SallyWD · 09/01/2023 12:09

I'll start by saying I know there are 2 sides to every story. Also, I'm not a Megan fan. I have no idea what she's like. She might be awful. I neither like her, nor dislike her. I feel the same way about Kate.

But anyway, in light of the stories that Harry is telling, does anyone else feel that Kate (and William) comes across as rather precious and over sensitive?

First of all there's the baby brain incident. Apparently Kate forgot something or made a mistake and Megan responded by saying "Oh don't worry, it's probably the baby brain". Kate then feels insulted by this remark and says something along the lines of "You don't me well enough to comment on my hormones". William joins in by pointing his finger at Megan and saying "It's rude Megan, we don't do that here." I mean seriously?? I think the baby brain remark was completely benign. I'm sure Megan was trying to reassure Kate not to worry about her mistake. Just after having my baby I paid for my shopping and walked out leaving it in the shop. The cashier had to call me back and I apologised. She also said "Don't worry, it's the baby brain". I wasn't at all offended. I was relieved she understood! I certainly didn't think "How dare a stranger comment on my hormones". The irony of William telling Megan off for rudeness whilst pointing his finger at her. I find it far more rude to point in someone's face than to mention baby brain. If I was Megan and had received that reaction to my innocent remark I would have felt humiliated and very upset.

Then there's the lipgloss incident. Megan asked to borrow Kate's lipgloss. Kate lends it to her then gets upset that she dabs it with her finger. I understand some people don't want to share lip gloss but Kate could have said no. I don't understand what's so upsetting about Megan using her finger? If I lent someone my lip gloss I'd insist they used their finger and not their mouth. Apparently the mouth harbours more germs than your average toilet.

Then there's the report that William and Kate were uncomfortable being hugged by Megan. There are literally hundreds of photos of William and Kate hugging random strangers on the internet! Yet when Megan makes this faux pas it's offensive to them.

It seemed like William and Kate expected to be treated with great formality by Megan - as if she was one of their subjects. It also seems that Megan couldn't do anything right! Megan on the other hand perhaps expected a little more intimacy given that they were her partner's family. It doesn't sound like they did much to make her feel comfortable and welcome in to the family. Does anyone agree/disagree?

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ReneBumsWombats · 09/01/2023 17:33

toomuchlaundry · 09/01/2023 17:28

Mike and Zara Tindall seem to cope okay, can’t imagine Mike fitted the image of a usual partner to a Royal.

@Intrepidescape didn’t Meghan say she didn’t know who Harry was, so why would she have needed to work hard to get an introduction to him

Zara was never anywhere near the throne and she has no royal title. It does make a difference.

goldierocks · 09/01/2023 17:34

Harry himself has said that William didn't warn him not to marry Meghan.

Prince Harry said that while Prince William never tried to dissuade him from marrying Meghan he did "air some concerns" and warned Harry: "This is going to be really hard for you".

Harry added; "I still to this day don't truly understand which part… he was talking about. But maybe, you know, maybe he predicted what the British press's reaction was going to be."

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:34

A lot of the public would not recognise Zara if they saw her. She is really a fairly minor Royal.
Do you really think a more Senior Royal would be allowed to take part in a reality TV show as Mike Tindall has?

ReneBumsWombats · 09/01/2023 17:36

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:34

A lot of the public would not recognise Zara if they saw her. She is really a fairly minor Royal.
Do you really think a more Senior Royal would be allowed to take part in a reality TV show as Mike Tindall has?

And nobody even knows her brother's name!

LadyEloise1 · 09/01/2023 17:38

I wouldn't be one bit happy sharing lip gloss. Cold sores - yuck !

Baby brain is fine imo.

SuckItNietzsche · 09/01/2023 17:38

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 15:16

I once said I wasn't keen on one of Kate's dresses. I got attacked for a few days as a result. Crazy.

Interestingly, this is very much like Harry and Meghan's claims/grievances.

Vague - check
Hard to verify - check
Implausible, suggesting a disingenuous and/or selective reframing of what actually happened -check

WisteriaLodge · 09/01/2023 17:39

I dint think any of them come out sounding good.

Well we've only heard one side haven't we? Nothing from Kate and Williams own mouths...

Moxysright · 09/01/2023 20:41

If someone had said to Meghan she had baby brain after Archie she’d have cried all kinds of misogyny.

Moxysright · 09/01/2023 20:49

I think if Kate / William/ any of the royals had said to Meghan she had ‘baby brain’ she would have cried all kind of misogyny.

StatisticallyChallenged · 09/01/2023 20:50

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:34

A lot of the public would not recognise Zara if they saw her. She is really a fairly minor Royal.
Do you really think a more Senior Royal would be allowed to take part in a reality TV show as Mike Tindall has?

Didn't the senior royals make a documentary that was a 1970s version of a reality TV show?

And then there's the monstrosity that is "It's a Royal Knockout"

I doubt they'd let a senior royal go on I'm a celeb now though!

StatisticallyChallenged · 09/01/2023 20:53

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 17:34

A lot of the public would not recognise Zara if they saw her. She is really a fairly minor Royal.
Do you really think a more Senior Royal would be allowed to take part in a reality TV show as Mike Tindall has?

Didn't the senior royals make a documentary that was a 1970s version of a reality TV show?
And then there's the monstrosity that is "It's a Royal Knockout"
I doubt they'd let a senior royal go on I'm a celeb now though!

PicturesOfDogs · 09/01/2023 21:02

I don’t think she is. These seem like non issues that no one but Harry would care about/write about/talk about.
This just makes the argument the W&C weren’t leaking more credible to me.

These things happened in private, and weren’t leaked, first time were hearing about them is from Harry.

Cry-gate happened in front of people, and was leaked.

When it was first reported, it was indicated it was the Givenchy staff who leaked, If I remember rightly.

CathyorClaire · 09/01/2023 21:02

I wonder how Oprah feels about her interview now.

Thankful the megabucks are long banked I expect.

twelly · 09/01/2023 21:04

I don't know because I was not there. However, from what I have seen in the Netflix documentary, the OW interview and the TB interview there are inconsistencies in many comments - of course that doesn't mean everything that is said is untrue but one has to be sceptical.

I think the Duchess of Cambridge comes over as quite shy really and genuine, of course I do not know her - but she has not been slinging allegations around. I have often made the first move if there has been an awkwardness and tried to make amends to ensure peace and good relationships even when I know I am in the right - particularly with family members. I think this was what the flowers were - a way of trying to ensure harmony. For someone to then go public and say "she owned it" shows a lack of manners and to be quite brash - it could be of course a different culture in the way the flowers were viewed. However, there does seem a reluctance to accept any blame whatsoever - or any accountability (to use the term that seems to be so current.)

At the end of the day we have relations which we didn't choose - we have to try and get on with them. Its not about scoring points its about acceptance.

Twatalert · 09/01/2023 21:09

I could imagine that M was very full on and pally from the start, which is suspicious. They'll probably take longer than the average person to let someone in for obvious reasons.

Had K said no to the lip gloss she would be accused of bullying and what not. They cannot win whilst H is trying to uncover what the actual dysfunction is or was.

Angiedx · 09/01/2023 21:24

pocketvenuss · 09/01/2023 17:09

I dint think any of them come out sounding good. I certainly don't think 'poor Kate'. K&W sound uptight and entitled. They took a very formal and unfriendly approach with M from the start and I think this really set the relationship off badly. Like M, I too would have assumed behind closed doors, the formality was dropped. Especially with the younger generation. K&W (call me Wills) have made a massive thing about being informal. They hug strangers. They laugh and joke in front of the camera. They dress in jeans and sportswear. But for some reason, upon meeting their to be SIL they were uptight and cold. Expecting private curtseys. Odd. And rude. Yes. Rude.

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Re William expecting the formality of greeting on their first meeting. Harry appears to express surprise and disappointment at this .

I wonder did Harry demand that kind of deference from Kate when he met her as Williams girlfriend

if not might go some way to explaining why this bothered him

if he did expect the same the Pot Kettle Black

MissTrip82 · 09/01/2023 21:24

I don’t understand the extremist viewpoints on this - people are either OMG HE’S A LIAR or KATE HAS A STICK UP HER BUM.

I surely, surely can’t be the only person who has been a bit snippy with relatives in the leadup to big events on occasion? In a way that I’m sure wouldn’t make me look amazing if they wrote a book detailing such minor things but that in reality doesn’t reflect who I am as a whole or our relationship?

Whats extraordinary is that it’s become a big deal and members of the public actually think they know something about any of these total strangers because they’ve heard one them someone was a bit cats bum face over a lipgloss.

Gilmorehill · 09/01/2023 21:25

twelly · 09/01/2023 21:04

I don't know because I was not there. However, from what I have seen in the Netflix documentary, the OW interview and the TB interview there are inconsistencies in many comments - of course that doesn't mean everything that is said is untrue but one has to be sceptical.

I think the Duchess of Cambridge comes over as quite shy really and genuine, of course I do not know her - but she has not been slinging allegations around. I have often made the first move if there has been an awkwardness and tried to make amends to ensure peace and good relationships even when I know I am in the right - particularly with family members. I think this was what the flowers were - a way of trying to ensure harmony. For someone to then go public and say "she owned it" shows a lack of manners and to be quite brash - it could be of course a different culture in the way the flowers were viewed. However, there does seem a reluctance to accept any blame whatsoever - or any accountability (to use the term that seems to be so current.)

At the end of the day we have relations which we didn't choose - we have to try and get on with them. Its not about scoring points its about acceptance.

I agree.

StatisticallyChallenged · 09/01/2023 21:32

MissTrip82 · 09/01/2023 21:24

I don’t understand the extremist viewpoints on this - people are either OMG HE’S A LIAR or KATE HAS A STICK UP HER BUM.

I surely, surely can’t be the only person who has been a bit snippy with relatives in the leadup to big events on occasion? In a way that I’m sure wouldn’t make me look amazing if they wrote a book detailing such minor things but that in reality doesn’t reflect who I am as a whole or our relationship?

Whats extraordinary is that it’s become a big deal and members of the public actually think they know something about any of these total strangers because they’ve heard one them someone was a bit cats bum face over a lipgloss.

Everybody has snippy moments with family. In most cases it happens, then you either apologise or you just move on.

Who the hell holds on to this shit for what, 5 years? And then brings it up as a big story in a book, then in multiple interviews. It's beyond petty

ThePoshUns · 09/01/2023 21:59

We only have Harry's say so.
I find it odd that a grown man still remembers his sister in law ' pulling a face' because she had to share her lip gloss.
FWIW I wouldn't want to share my lip products either

purplerainlondon · 09/01/2023 22:06

Personally I would be insulted if my sister in law started talking about my hormones and baby brain! Its just not appropriate!

DorritLittle · 09/01/2023 22:10

No, I don't because she is not the one who has shared all the minutiae about the incidents. I am also guessing there was a build up of context.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 09/01/2023 22:15

Personally I would be insulted if my sister in law started talking about my hormones and baby brain! Its just not appropriate!

And I'd be even more pissed off if my BIL decided to tell the world about it five years later.

Twatalert · 09/01/2023 22:25

DorritLittle · 09/01/2023 22:10

No, I don't because she is not the one who has shared all the minutiae about the incidents. I am also guessing there was a build up of context.

This. There might have been many incidents where M behaved unreasonably and K might finally have pulled a face at the lipgloss incident. I'd never ask to use anyone's lipgloss. It's gross.

IcedPurple · 09/01/2023 22:27

ThePoshUns · 09/01/2023 21:59

We only have Harry's say so.
I find it odd that a grown man still remembers his sister in law ' pulling a face' because she had to share her lip gloss.
FWIW I wouldn't want to share my lip products either

He doesn't remember it because he wasn't even there.

Someone else does however. And has clearly born a grudge for getting on 5 years. Over lip gloss.