Prince Harry - sounds articulate and quite intelligent

[pigalow27]

There seems to be an accepted view that Prince Harry is very dim and unintelligent but he seems to be to be really quite articulate and have a wide vocabulary (antagonist, complicit.) I've thought this before when he made a speech at the Invictus games but assumed it was written for him and he was reading it but the answers to the questions in the interview couldn't all possibly have been learnt,

He chose her above all other women he could pick from

Which was an extremely small field. At least two of his exes turned him down. Having observed him for over an hour tonight I can completely see why. He was getting desperate.

He sounds like someone who is not very clever but had the benefits of an expensive education. Trying not to sound bitchy - not everyone has to be academic and I am sure he has qualities I don't have. He would have done better in an outdoor role, like the nature conservation thing he talked about.

He basically takes after his mother, to be honest - she may have been a sweet soul but she was terribly dim. I've said this before, but the RF made a very poor decision in choosing someone who lacked intelligence and emotional stability to be the Brood Mare. Like, why would you do that? Did Mountbatten think that intelligence and emotional stability are largely divorced from genes? Ha.

Diana's memory is sainted largely because she died too soon for the really piss-poor decisions to start piling up. Had she lived, she would have continued to get into dodgy relationships and making impulsive choices, while starting to age and look like less of a fashion and beauty icon. It would have ended up being embarrassing for her and her sons, and really quite sad.

William has Charles's (basically quite average) intelligence, and should be able to cope with the role of heir/king without doing anything too dreadful, I hope.

Not intelligent whatsoever, he constantly contradicted himself, seemed blatantly unaware of his hypocrisy and quick to anger when challenged (though challenged is too strong a word since that interviewer was basically his friend.) Still had nothing to say of substance or specificity.

There was nothing offensive in what she said.

racists — how? The event was to showcase a charity for women of African heritage. Even on lookers said she wasn’t offensive.

Ha!! Yes.

Tom Bradby submitted the questions he wanted to ask. Harry chose the ones he wanted to answer and rejected the others. He then will have written the responses he wanted to give and rehearsed them. That's why when TB pushed him in anything he gave meaningless responses or got angry.
I wonder if Anderson Cooper asked the same questions or there's something different?

@SemperIdem

Would Boris be known by his first name if his name was John or Tim or Brian?

Don't forget, it's the right wing gutter press that created him and baptised him and kept him afloat despite serial infidelity, lies, and a speaking style that is pure Upper Class Blowhard.

Regardless of the health of the relationship, the constant reference to “my wife” or “my husband” is grating. I know this because I annoy TF out of myself every time I say “my husband”. It’s not personal to Harry. It’s just obnoxious.

Bit like “Your King” is grating. I’m American. I don’t have a King.

If I’d had a mouthful of coffee then I’m sure I would have spat it out Bigbadfish.
The Gurnos Estate lol.
idont suppose many people on here would have heard of the Gurnoss. I have because I’m from South Wales.
The thought of the RF having a house on there makes me really chuckle. 🤣

Having waded through the self indulgent 6hr Netflix spectacle recently, I ploughed on with the interview…

The documentary was very polished, by contrast in this interview he seethes with bitterness. He seems very emotionally unstable and like a loose cannon. It was uncomfortable to see him be so aggressive and defensive on several occasions towards a journalist he chose and one whom he considers to be a friend.

As to his intelligence, just because he can articulate himself does not mean that everything he said is reliably sensible and smart.

He and his wife are clearly troubled. I read the mail and remember a lot of the press being dominated by them around the time of their wedding. It was drama after drama, largely due to her white family behaving so badly and repeatedly stirring up a hornets nest. The South Africa tour went remarkably well, there were fantastic headlines that week and everyone was viewing them really positively. Then the documentary came out were they themselves decided to give off about the royals and how shit everything was and the headlines immediately reverted to them being a nightmare.

He says the media intrusion and negative articles haven’t stopped. The reason for that is that they have consistently been dramatic - escaping to Canada, escaping to Los Angeles, having controversial interviews, documentaries, books. They don’t pause for breath and are constantly attention seeking… courting all of this… it’s just they don’t like that they aren’t viewed positively by everyone. Whatever briefings have been made against them, the predominant headlines are centred around the circus they have created themselves.

All of his activist speak about “if I don’t stand up to Xyz who will”, and even saying “right?” very annoyingly at the end of many sentences is all Meghan.

They talk about accountability, but appear to have no accountability themselves. It’s all so sad and I’m absolutely gutted for all of them on all sides. He and Meghan need to let it go and get on with their lives.

I've always thought he was brighter than people think on here. He just wasn't in a good place when exam time came round and he's never really been in a good place since then. Reckon he could have done very well under different cirucmstances.

A Brood Mare ?

On a forum for women with children?

What a bitter post.

its easy to conflate being 'posh' with being intelligent. I went to school in a deprived, urban area but due to my parents had a very RP accent. This had the double disadvantages of making me a target for bullying and making teachers assume I was much cleverer than I actually was.

Even worse was that I accepted their opinions and also thought I was exceptional. It was a shock to the system when I did very badly in my GCSEs, then got a job and realised I was actually quite average and no smarter than many many people with local accents.

@Robinni Flinging “right” into the end of a sentence is marketing psychology BS. It demands an “unconscious buy-in” - and certainly didn’t originate in the cloisters of Eton!

@FeelingwearyFeeelingsmall I too “sound posh” and I can really dial that up to my advantage. Astounding the reactions in some to simple enunciation- as demonstrates by OP for one. 😉

I don't think he's particularly academic - he struggled with exams and I think there's also been talk of the pilot exams being a problem. However exam passes don't automatically mean the person concerned is intelligent. I've often thought that Harry is brighter than people credit him.

Likewise, flowery speeches full of buzzwords are largely meaningless. I've previously wondered why Russell Brand was often lauded as being a great speaker; when you break down what he says then some of it is nonsense. An old teacher of mine was a great exponent of the belief that if you could not express - or defend or analyse - a concept in simple terms, then you did not truly understand your subject.

Last night's interview was the result of preparation. The questions will have been pre-approved. I suspect he will have spent time rehearsing what he wants to say, and being coached on his key talking points. I'm not going to speculate on who would have done the coaching, but given their financial resources it's not unreasonable to assume the Sussexes may have employed the services of a media consultant to assist.

I think he has a point to make and to prove. Is he angry, hurt and bitter? Yes. Does he have the right to be? Yes. However, I think his interview would have been more effective had he used his own voice, and his own language - plain speaking, and no buzzwords. Relying on coached talking points opens him up to accusations of being puppeted.

He didn’t answer the (few) challenges that Bradby made. He talked a lot of convoluted nonsense.

I'm afraid you have fallen for the old "posh and public school educated = clever" trick.

There are plenty of people who are articulate and come across as intelligent who have totally fucked over those around them. We keep voting them in to lead/ screw up our country.

Yes- this. He repeated the same phrases (therapy talk) over and over again. He also insisted multiple times "I genuinely believe that"- indicating that it wasnt an original thought from within himself and most likely came from someone else.

I didn’t see aggression. I thought he was very calm and unaware of the storm around him.

@User787878787878 I was taught the same (if you can’t break it down…). Same teacher also said that being a Sun journalist was an art - because stories needed to be understood by a large and varied audience.

He will have had the questions submitted before the interview and rehearsed his answers. That was apparent in his reactions to Bradby’s challenges. You don’t have to be intelligent to use big words in a nice accent.

Rehearsed answers and big words in a posh accent does not a genius make.

Therapy word-salad

I absolutely agree. (And believe "most" of what he has said )