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Charles "joking" about Harry's parentage.

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kirinm · 08/01/2023 13:14

Do we all think that's funny? Or should Harry have just sucked up having his parentage being questioned his entire life and not let him bother him?

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PetitPorpoise · 08/01/2023 14:20

It's very innocuous in the context of the conversation about the man in Broadmoor.

H2bow · 08/01/2023 14:21

Well Harry stans like mentioning context, so I don't see why the same wouldn't apply here. There's a world of difference between him randomly joking about it over dinner out of the blue and it coming up regularly in conversation so Charles responds with a joke to try and make light of it. It must have been hard on Charles to have those rumours swirling round as well and people questioning whether he was his son.

I'd say his general treatment is more important, and seems like he was affectionate and stood up a lot for Harry. He mentions in his book when he was in trouble often Charles wouldn't make a huge deal about it, even now he's saying he hopes for reconciliation for goodness sake. A lot of parents would have said no chance long ago. I think Charles was done dirty by the press in their aim to show Diana as a super affectionate mum against the cold father. The iconic sports day photo for example, he was there as well but most people have only seen the mothers race and would assume he wasnt.

MarshaMelrose · 08/01/2023 14:22

DewinDwl · 08/01/2023 14:11

No it's not funny.

TBH what stands out to me from this whole debacle is what a mess Charles has made of things. Does he look back at his adult life choices and go "yeah, I did the best I could there" I wonder?

No, Charles doesn't look back abd think he dud did great job.
Harry actually told charles to his face all the things he'd done wrong as a father. And Charles accepted full responsibility, apologised and then tried to correct what he done by gettig Harry help. But Harry couldn't accept that apology. Hence the book.
It doesn't matter what the RF do, Harry will never think it's enough. Charles is trying to understand his mistakes and grow. Harry, not so much.

BMW6 · 08/01/2023 14:24

But the joke was about the poor bloke in Broadmoor who claims to be the "real" Prince Charles, therefore the "real " father if William and Harry.

Nothing whatsoever to do with the stupid rumours about Hewitt being Harry's biological father at all

I can't follow Harry's reason for including the anecdote at all unless it was precisely so some people would deliberately take it out of context and make out that Charles was joking a out Hewitt being Harry's real father.

But no-one on here is that disingenuous are they.

Jellycats4life · 08/01/2023 14:28

It’s all about context, right? Surely the best way to show contempt to these ridiculous rumours is to laugh about it? How else is Charles supposed to deal with something so stupid?

kirinm · 08/01/2023 14:29

Babdoc · 08/01/2023 14:04

OP, are you Meghan?! Because you seem hugely over invested in all this, and disproportionately outraged on Harry’s behalf. Charles seems to have inherited his father’s sometimes inappropriate sense of humour, but it’s rather silly to manufacture a major incident out of an off the cuff joke.

Yes well done. I am Meghan.

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ThisIsNotThePostYourLookingFor · 08/01/2023 14:31

It depends on the family dynamic. My family sometimes openly joke about things like that but it’s all in good fun and never in a nasty way.

Lennybenny · 08/01/2023 14:33

I think it should be taken in context. A family joking about it when it's repeated again and you know damn well he is H father is different to KC just randomly joking about it in a horrible way.

Wait for the book and read it. These excerpts are just an attempt to make H look bad when there's no context to the whole thing. RF are doing a good job of answering without answering.

BethDuttonsTwin · 08/01/2023 14:36

If he said it, then I don’t think it’s that big a deal. Confront it head on in “we know it’s ridiculous don’t we?” kind of way. My child’s father is an alcoholic. Sometimes we joke about it - me and my child, she’s a teen. What else should we do? Walk around with sombre faces and cry whenever he’s mentioned? Pragmatism is the best way.

Velvetween · 08/01/2023 14:44

DuchessOfDisco · 08/01/2023 13:35

my MIL always jokes about dh being the milkman’s.
some families do joke around like that, of course they know it’s not true and it’s not meant to be offensive

Presumably though, your parents do not have a history of having affairs and said affairs being reported in the press causing scandal and embarrassment to you and your family? Unless your MIL is a public figure or had an unusually close friendship with her milkman, your comment is a bit pointless.

That said, I think the wider context of what Charles said makes the original post in this thread a bit redundant.

Velvetween · 08/01/2023 14:45

^^ your parents -IN-LAW

Kinneddar · 08/01/2023 14:48

kirinm · 08/01/2023 13:22

@crumpet Hmmm, well perhaps not joking about it to his fucking son?

But then we only have Harry's word thar Charles even said it, let alone the context it may have been said it.

Harry's already proved his version of the truth isn't necessarily accurate

notanotheroneagain · 08/01/2023 14:49

Considering that the palace briefed on a 'revolving door' of men regarding Diana, this is a cruel joke indeed.

Bakeacaketoday73 · 08/01/2023 14:49

kirinm · 08/01/2023 13:22

@crumpet Hmmm, well perhaps not joking about it to his fucking son?

He will have been DNA tested , what with being 3rd in line to the throne.

So it's not really a thing I suspect in their family - they know the truth. Hence why it is a bit of a joke, a "why do they keep questioning it, do they think we are idiots" kind of joke.

Mental health not really on the cards as everyone who matters already knows the truth.

Even us general plebs know the affair happened after Harry. Its only tin foil hatters that keep bringing it up, along with Obama not being born in the US and the moon landings being fake...

PicturesOfDogs · 08/01/2023 14:50

Total speculation on my part, of course, but I’m thinking the ghost writer has really teased the details from Harry.

On NF, you had all these vague insinuations about what was said. ‘My father saying things that just weren’t true’ being one that sticks out to me where I thought ‘like what’?

I get the impression the same happened here.
Harry said ‘my father used to make jokes about me not being his’ and then was asked ‘like what?’ and then the details were teased out.

There seem to be a couple of things like this in the book (from the excerpts I’ve seen) where the detail doesn’t quite fit the narrative, and it seems to be deliberate on the ghost writers part.

All my speculation of course

kirinm · 08/01/2023 14:53

@Kinneddar we do only have his word but people don't seem to have any issues believing what he's said about many other things - when it suits them of course.

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kirinm · 08/01/2023 13:32

Harry evidently didn't find it funny.

The amount of mental gymnastics you guys will do when it suits your narrative is amazing. All about context except when you're talking about the taliban comment or the drug taking comment or the lip gloss comment or the fight comment.

What so an accusation that Charles commented on Harry to Diana when he was not even old enough to understand and was obviously told by Diana later, is the same as storing the pot with the Taliban and relegious fanatics on the world stage is the same.

Give your head a wobble, your having a laugh. Poor Hasbeen upset daddy made a joke and on the other side Hasbeens comments could still cost innocent lives of many. Yeh right, ridiculous. 🙄

HarryTheStallion · 08/01/2023 15:02

crumpet · 08/01/2023 13:19

What should Charles have done? The issue regularly cropped up in the media. Joking about it is the best way to deal with it, rather than ignoring it or hand wringing over such blatant bollocks.

Er, had a sensible conversation and shown empathy?

Bugeyedowl · 08/01/2023 15:10

It's out of order for any parent to say that to their child, especially to one that's already seen by everyone as second best to the 'golden child'. I think Harry's grudges started from an early age, and that's not his fault or Meghan's, but the RF's.

Deadringer · 08/01/2023 15:15

Harry wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in my family. What a fucking snowflake.

x2boys · 08/01/2023 15:17

ACynicalDad · 08/01/2023 13:28

Can you imagine if they did a DNA test now and found out he wasn’t Charlie’s son, could be a boss move from the palace.

Well apart from the fact he's the spitting image of Charles apart from the hair colour ,do you not think it there was even the slightest doubt he wasn't Charles. Is son they would have done a DNA test?

Falalalalalalaetc · 08/01/2023 15:19

I think joking about it is a very upper class way of trying to point out what bollocks it is and that there's absolutely no truth to it. He wouldn't have made a joke if it were true, and so making a joke makes it obvious he thinks it's standard tabloid lies.

I've known a few people who've been to posh public schools and this is very much their form of humour. But you wouldn't joke if there was any truth at all to it.

Falalalalalalaetc · 08/01/2023 15:20

And what Harry's done is a million billion times worse than an ill judged joke. So he needs to get over himself.

BethDuttonsTwin · 08/01/2023 15:27

Deadringer · 08/01/2023 15:15

Harry wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in my family. What a fucking snowflake.

Lol 😁

Proudofitbabe · 08/01/2023 15:30

I think if it happened it'll have been as a joke, said once by Charles who KNOWS there's nothing in it, and is now being played up to suit Harry's narrative.

Harry is Philip's double, he is a thousand times more like his father than William is!