Does anyone else feel a bit uncomfortable with all this Harry stuff?

[asblindasabat]

I don’t know why, but I do.

I don’t even know any of them personally. I’ve never met them.

I have always liked Harry, I have no idea what is going on his life at the minute, but obviously something is.

I’m sure the loss of his mum in such a tragic way when he was so young was awful and his time in Afghanistan was probably terrible too.

I guess nobody knows what is going on between him and the RF, there are two sides to the story, I highly doubt we will hear the RF’s side though so it’s hard to form an opinion of who is wrong and right!

But he just seems to be getting very personal. Everytime I open my Facebook, my feed is just filled with new revelations that the media have found in the leaked copy of his new book. I get that he has issues with his family, but he’s not holding back with the personal insults. It sounds so awful. I don’t know what has meant to have happened between them that he feels the need to belittle them in front of the whole world.

It just feels a bit too much now and a bit uncomfortable. At the end of the day they are his family. Surely he should just pick up the phone to them or better still, fly over to London and sit down at the kitchen table with them and talk the whole thing out?

@WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps Even the most ardent Megzy

I am rolling my eyes at your 'Megzy' comment. Are you 12 years old?!?

You think the Queen and palace aides totally ignored Charles view? That would be quite extraordinary surely?

@bakalava His previous, young girlfriends had the good grace and lack of need to financially elevate themselves to realize that he was troubled and not somebody with whom it was healthy to reproduce and bring children into the world.

Seriously? How do you know this? Maybe they knew they couldn't cope with being married to a high profile royal. You sound unhinged to suggest that his previous girlfriends thought he was 'troubled'. You sound like you're projecting and have issues of your own.

@creamcoffee He was their father. Their sole parent. Of course he had a say!

I feel like we are watching a break down and I do worry for him. I think being born into that family and losing his mother has really messed him up.

It has been well publicised that Charles, William and Harry were turned down by various aristocratic women when they proposed, because none of them wanted the job of being a Royal. Who could blame them when they are already financially secure.

I think it basically all comes down to cash. You don't get the big bucks for tame stories, for the £££ you need to sell out your entire family. Bollocks to their right to privacy and who cares about their mental health - Harry needs money and this is the easiest/possibly only way he can earn tens of millions.

Wow, this is some amount of projection or reading into a situation that you personally know nothing about other than the crap you read in the newspapers. I think people believe everything they read in the tabloid rags as if it were fact. How do you know why his previous relationships finished for sure? You don't!

So do tell, where do you get your information from? crap in the tabloid rags, by any chance?

Charles deserves 'misery'....he created alot of the problems by the way he treated Diana and those poor boys.Not even hugging Harry, his child, when his mother had died, and making them face those crowds and walk behind the coffin like he did....it was absolutely cruel and heartless and he has clearly failed Harry as a father.

to be fair, this is how he was bought up and it is all he has ever known. He was sent to boarding school in Scotland at 13 which he hated and struggled at. His relationship with his father was fractious.

I think the Queen had a change of strategy with Andrew and Edward and tried a more human approach.

I'm just trying to figure out which one is the narcissist W or H? Any ideas?

Did people who watched on Netflix where he came across well, worry about him? Of course not. Because he was saying things people liked to hear. But as soon as he reveals thoughts and behaviours they don't like, people go, oh poor Harry, he must be having a breakdown. Well, actually, no. This is who he is. A thin-skinned, self-pitying, vindictive man who wants to humiliate and destroy members of his family because he doesn't believe they've castigated themselves enough. But it'll never be enough.
And when he's nothing left arsenal to throw at them to assuage his ire, who do you think he'll focus on next? Not himself. Because he's blameless in all this. Look closer to Montecito as to who his next target will be.

It’s baffling (to me) that someone who wanted to live a life where he’s taken seriously on the global stage for his actions and achievements in tackling poverty, climate change, inequalities and so on would set himself up to be such a figure of fun and to share the level of intimate detail he has which frankly makes him look like a prize tit - what’s that saying, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt?

I don’t know if it’s greed, or the actions of a very vulnerable man with serious MH issues, or a burning hatred for his family or someone with a complete lack of self awareness, or all of these, or something else. None of us know his real motivation.

I'd go for the one who is more ambitious.

"projecting" Yes you are.

Golddigger trying to control the investment.

@asblindasabat
I think there is fault on both sides tbh but the RF aren’t slagging him off in public so it’s not fair that he is doing it to them

Harry’s argument is that the RF were attacking him and Meghan though. He says that they were briefing against them both over a long period, using the press as a conduit for their unpleasant opinions about them both. I don’t know to what extent this is true, but the point is that Harry feels he is defending himself. He did not just start airing this stuff for no reason.

There is plenty of evidence that the negative stories about M and H did come from William’s offices. Added to that, William did not make any effort to refute the stories or to defend or show solidarity with his brother. As far as Harry is concerned that is throwing him and Meghan under the bus.

I have absolutely no idea what really happened but I do know what Harry thinks happened and according to his beliefs, his actions make total sense. I think it’s really dangerous and nasty to say that someone is crazy just because you can’t see things from their point of view. I am in no way at all on M and Hs ‘side’ I think this situation has arisen through a combination of poor decisions in all sides in a context which would make the sanest, wisest and kindest people seem nuts.

You sound like you don’t really grasp how to use ‘unhinged’, very into the hyperbole it would appear.

Omg you are SO right. The fact that we have to wait until Tuesday to finally have the book out means days of extra speculating time. And the juicy-awful details don't stop coming.

Which aristocratic women have turned down William's proposal? I thought Catherine had been his only serious girlfriend, but you're saying that he had other girlfriends that were serious enough to propose to? And these were 'well publicised'? Do you have links?

He wanted to marry Isabella Calthorpe.

This.

So he proposed and this was 'well publicised'? Do you have links to the publicity please?

Alex Tiffin is a journalist.

A widely-shared response to Tiffin’s tweets said this: “this isn’t a surprise. He’s there at least 3 times a week. He wears a mask but we all know who he is,” while others pointed to articles about William’s helicopter use and suggested they could be involved in William visiting Hanbury, though no evidence for that has been shared.

Giles Coren tweeted that everyone knows about the affair.

@HaveYouSeenNancy
www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a23385908/isabella-calthorpe-prince-william-rumored-crush-kate-middleton-jealous/#:~:text=He%20propositioned%20her%20several%20times,way%20to%20becoming%20hugely%20successful.

I am not posting anymore links or tweets. I am concerned I may be banned for posting controversial comments and links.

This stuff is easily googled. Just google.

Sorry, you've misunderstood me. I'll try and be clearer;

Do you have any links to the 'well publicised' evidence of Prince William proposing to an aristrocrat?