Does anyone else feel a bit uncomfortable with all this Harry stuff?

[asblindasabat]

I don’t know why, but I do.

I don’t even know any of them personally. I’ve never met them.

I have always liked Harry, I have no idea what is going on his life at the minute, but obviously something is.

I’m sure the loss of his mum in such a tragic way when he was so young was awful and his time in Afghanistan was probably terrible too.

I guess nobody knows what is going on between him and the RF, there are two sides to the story, I highly doubt we will hear the RF’s side though so it’s hard to form an opinion of who is wrong and right!

But he just seems to be getting very personal. Everytime I open my Facebook, my feed is just filled with new revelations that the media have found in the leaked copy of his new book. I get that he has issues with his family, but he’s not holding back with the personal insults. It sounds so awful. I don’t know what has meant to have happened between them that he feels the need to belittle them in front of the whole world.

It just feels a bit too much now and a bit uncomfortable. At the end of the day they are his family. Surely he should just pick up the phone to them or better still, fly over to London and sit down at the kitchen table with them and talk the whole thing out?

I think she would have, that's why she is no longer alive.

If he spent ages writing a book and his publisher spent loads of money on it, isn’t there a bit of a legal issue with newspapers printing loads of extracts without permission, to sell more newspapers? I’d be quite pissed off if I wrote a book and people printed out of context extracts to make more money for themselves.

Hope he sues all involved. The way the media misrepresented what he said about Afghanistan was shocking.

Sorry, that should have read Harry (and Meghan). Not implying he’s her mouthpiece.

I enjoyed the stories on Thursday (not proud of that but I did), by Friday I started to feel uncomfortable - something didn't sit right and by Saturday (yesterday) it felt stale and like old news? I'm still reading the threads when I'm bored (for 10 minutes) but I don't care much anymore. I liked Harry and Meghan though. Now I realise, what did I like about them? I don't know them. If I read a story about someone taking their wife's gas and air during labour I would assume it was in take a break magazine. And I am not interested in reading take a break so..... It's not healthy reading about this so I will probably start avoiding the topic. It's aa good lesson though.

I feel sorry for him. It is obvious from the excerpts that he is very damaged and that William, his friends and advisors have been quietly managing and cleaning up after him forever. I have never seen such a catastrophic lack of judgement as the content he has shared.

I think the claims that he is 'ill' and 'needs help' are just being used as a desperate attempt to excuse Harry. It's all quite pathetic.

The public have persistently seen what the RF are like eg: Andrew and Epstein and the VG case, Charles and his disgusting hand waving dismissal at the ceremonies following the Queen's death. His insistence of a 'slimmed down' monarchy but now wanting, in a colc, a massive coronation ((£100million did I read?).

The signs have been there for a long time but the public haven't wanted to believe it and the palace machine has done a great job in covering up/gagging the press etc. it'll be interesting to see what happens now the country has it straight from the 'horses mouth'. IMO the palace will be splitting feathers not because of what is being says but because they can't control it.

The really uncomfortable aspect of this is that Harry isn't just telling "his truth" He is disclosing private details from the lives of his family like their very personal medical information and even going into detail about his fathers teddy bear and grotesquely giving out sensitive details about both the funeral of his grandfather and the death of his grandmother.

I dont think that is remotely acceptable. Even if Harry wants to sell his soul and lay bare every gory aspect of his life that absolutely does not give him the right to breach his family's privacy in any way.

Nor does it give him the right to make unsubstantiated and inflammatory allegations about other people. If he wants to say all of these nasty things about the things his family are alleged to have done to him he will need to actually provide fairly concrete evidence in support of these claims. Surely without actual evidence to back him up then bits of this book could be seen as defamatory.

Could his family potentially seek an injunction to stop him revealing any further details about their private lives.

The signs have been there for a long time but the public haven't wanted to believe it and the palace machine has done a great job in covering up/gagging the press etc. it'll be interesting to see what happens now the country has it straight from the 'horses mouth'. IMO the palace will be splitting feathers not because of what is being says but because they can't control it.

I'm starting to wonder if this might be somewhere near the truth too. Harry making an arse of himself is good for the royals in some ways because it's a missed opportunity. The book probably could've done more damage than it actually will. But he's also going to be seen as being their fault too. A product of the institution, and not a very impressive one.

I feel uncomfortable, Harry in particular has been made a laughing stock over the past few days. I am not sure how anyone could cope with this. I know he has largely brought it on himself.

I read something today though that the UK is really in an echo chamber with this reporting and that it is perceived very differently - for example in the west cost of USA.

Does anyone know? If it is the fact that this book is being well received in the US and the rest of the world (or at worst not really being talked about at all) then he may not care what the UK reaction is.

I feel uncomfortable that he wrote publicly that he's killed 25 people in the war putting himself & anyone around him at serious risk.

This book shouldn't of been published, he needs therapy.

agree with PP echoing the sentiment about the pure hatred against H and M being whipped up. Whilst I don't believe everything he has said was advisable (taliban etc) it must be hard living within an institution like that your whole life and at one point you just want to put the record straight and have your own say. This was his chance to do so.

The sheer nastiness of some posters, DM readers etc etc is evident. Have people got nothing better to do than speculate and pore over what he says trying to find inconsistencies in his stories, and proof that he was supposedly the "bad" one? Especially when you consider his allegations e.g. about William's assault on him, apparent violent tendencies etc. Whilst I don't believe everything H and M done is 100% perfect in comparison, with William's behaviour, Andrew etc who is really the villain here?

I also think the floodgates will now open - he has put so much of his private light into the public sphere with this book, how can he ever challenge people selling stories on him or claim breach of privacy/not in public interest. He has made his entire life a matter of public interest voluntarily.

I don't think he thinks things through. He thought the Palace were his jailers but with hindsight he may come to see them as his protectors.

I read an interesting article by Patti Davis, Reagan's daughter who did a similar tell all book slating her family. She says she highly regrets it now and the best advice she could have given to Harry is to 'be quiet'.

This is the biggest load of absolute bullshit going! The RF CAN defend themselves. They choose not to. They can EASILY respond. It's their choice. They certainly responded to defend Kate numerous times. They also did the "recollections may vary" statement. Can we please, once and for all, stop lying that they 'can't defend themselves'. They MOST DEFINITELY CAN! They CHOOSE to 'never complain never explain'. It's their CHOICE. No one is stopping them from responding. So please, enough with that absolute effen bullshit. The biggest lie of all, ever, in history.

I think she would have, that's why she is no longer alive.

A seat belt would have saved Diana. Can you imagine bleating that you felt people were out to kill you and then not wear one? Speaks volumes about how afraid you must be!

It was all just sympathy garnering bullshit, same as what Harry is doing now. The apple didn't fall far from that tree.

I think its interesting as its almost like a sort of kiss and tell story a minor celebrity or no celebrity would sell to get revenge/money/fame.

He's made clear in interviews how aggrieved he feels about the RF, how badly they've treated him etc. Apart from money I'm not sure what else he stands to gain from it. For someone who talked about wanting reconciliation, this feels like an extremely strange way to approach that

no i dont
its done now
it has been a while in the writing no doubt.
the snippets we have had access to most probably have been taken out of context.
but i dont care enough to read the book

no doubt there will be a film, there probably is one in the making
there of loads of Diana films

I think she would have, that's why she is no longer alive.

Grow up. She's dead because she got in a car with a drunk driver and didn't wear a seatbelt. The RF had nothing to do with her death.

I think he's a lost soul. And I think he has mental health issues that people take advantage of.

There are lots of people with MH issues that wouldn't dream of behaving like he has.

When people say they think he has "mental health issues", what exactly do you mean?

To me he seems angry, resentful, jealous.

These are all normal human emotions that he's not managing very well... not signs of mental illness.

Stop infantilising a 40 year old man, who has more resources than you could ever dream of and is very happily married.

This is him speaking, his narrative. That it reflects badly on him (IMO) shows how good the palace PR was. I wouldn’t be surprised if she divorced him (I’d recommend it).

I agree. I checked the BBC this morning and Harry was front page for 'only crying once since Diana's death' ffs! In what world is this newsworthy? It's the BBC, not The Sun.

Who knows/cares who is right and wrong but it all feels so prurient. At best, daft gossip and at worst grownup online bullying from journos, comms and PR people who should really know better.

The US media isn't all that favourable towards Harry and neither are US anchors. New York Post had "Prince Of Wails" as their headline for Harry...Prince Of Whinging, essentially.

US and European reactions here:

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/06/prince-harry-spare-memoir-global-reaction-why-airing-familys/

This. ^