Does anyone else feel a bit uncomfortable with all this Harry stuff?

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I don’t know why, but I do.

I don’t even know any of them personally. I’ve never met them.

I have always liked Harry, I have no idea what is going on his life at the minute, but obviously something is.

I’m sure the loss of his mum in such a tragic way when he was so young was awful and his time in Afghanistan was probably terrible too.

I guess nobody knows what is going on between him and the RF, there are two sides to the story, I highly doubt we will hear the RF’s side though so it’s hard to form an opinion of who is wrong and right!

But he just seems to be getting very personal. Everytime I open my Facebook, my feed is just filled with new revelations that the media have found in the leaked copy of his new book. I get that he has issues with his family, but he’s not holding back with the personal insults. It sounds so awful. I don’t know what has meant to have happened between them that he feels the need to belittle them in front of the whole world.

It just feels a bit too much now and a bit uncomfortable. At the end of the day they are his family. Surely he should just pick up the phone to them or better still, fly over to London and sit down at the kitchen table with them and talk the whole thing out?

I think Diana would be loving it personally.

I don’t think she would be tbh, but that’s just my take on it. Obviously nobody knows how she’d have reacted as she’s sadly not here any longer.

But I can’t see how she’d enjoy seeing her two beloved boys fighting like this.

of course, but I don’t agree with how personal he is being about them. There is no need for it. He can say what he has to say about making silly jibes and nasty remarks about them. I’m really not sure what William’s baldness has to do with this whole situation. It sounds a bit petty to bring his appearance into it.

Absolutely agree, he knew exactly what he was doing.

When you have such a culture clash, combined with dysfunctional family and a media so hostile that they slag your wife off for touching her baby bump, shit is going to happen.

This show is not wholly of Harry's making. His family and outside forces also play a very significant part.

There's a whole industry based around hating him and his family.

I agree @TooBigForMyBoots
So many people think he should just say zero in response to all the intense hate thrown at him and Meghan. It has been insane.

I imagine Harry thinks they’ve been personal too, the comments about his child’s skin colour for example seems personal.

They’re a bunch of dysfunctional, flawed people. Hopefully we’ll see an end to the monarchy, outdated shite that it is. Head of a religion that’s fading fast, there’s no place for their family to live as they are. I feel uncomfortable with them being regarded as special.

I have far more important things to worry about and can easily tell my finger not to click on the news links.

Yes, I was with him when I saw the Netflix docs even though he did seem a bit obsessed with Meg dying in the same vain as his mum. But now its like why? Its too much. At least attempt at selling something else, a royal cook book, dealing with public speaking, a parenting book, anything!
Stop whoring out your family and yourself.

I do actually. It feels like it could all foreshadow something tragic. And there are young children involved.

The whole family seem dysfunctional to me

I wasn't really interested in reading the book until the last few days, might buy it now to see if all the shit coming out has been taken out of context or not

I agree the whole family seem very dysfunctional.

I'll probably be shot down but the last few years I haven't really understood all the love for the queen, racist husband , Andrew, Charles seemingly being forced into a marriage that caused nothing but pain for him, diana and their children .

PA seems to be the only one who's come out of it all fine. Maybe because being female took her out of the running pretty early on

Yes it's tragic-especially what Charles supposedly said to him and William, begging them not to make his final years a misery, and then he still goes and does this...he's not well at all even though he should be the happiest he's been in years with a beautiful wife and two healthy kids. I don't know what it is whether a breakdown of some sort, but he's got major issues clearly. It's putting me off getting therapy myself which I've been contemplating for years because it's clearly not helped him one bit-not that I think any therapist would ever advise he take the course of action he has. I could've sworn they said they'd go live a quiet life and shut up about the royal family after the Oprah debacle as well....

I think Charles has had quite a sad life all in all.

I agree. It seems because she was old and did her ‘job’ for a long time, we’re all meant to respect her. Fuck that. Age doesn’t get default respect in my mind. Actions do. And she acted dreadfully in many things.

I do not think Charles has been a good father. Why should Harry out what Charles wants first.

I’m not uncomfortable with all the Harry stuff, just uncomfortable with the press, what they give time to and how they manipulate the public. I wish the press would get on with proper journalism

He’s the family and press scape goat, I’m not surprised he’s had enough and spilled the beans

He didn't though. They opted out of public SERVICE and the Rf. He would never had the option of opt out of public life, even if they'd wanted to. He has been famous since (before) birth.

People are always going to be interested in his life.

While there may be grievances from both sides, I am gobsmacked that no one in his US circle (or even the remnants of his British one) has advised H to reel it in. Maybe they have and he has ignored it but it is like watching a car crash happen in slow motion. I had more sympathy for H&M at the outset but he has completely sold his soul to the devil Every aspect of his life now will be fair game, nothing is sacred. I am sure W and K are distraught watching this, not just for the jabs at them but because they have essentially lost him.

Very sad to watch. I hope the £80 m is a soft buffer for the lifetime of being ostracised from his family. He is totally isolated. All that navel gazing therapy has encouraged this. So sad.

I agree, for every barb he has thrown at his family (which he chose to do and felt righteous doing) he has also had to give part of himself to his paying media puppet masters who are laughing all the way to the bank and at him around their board table meetings; as are much of the world. He has allowed himself to be abused and I am not sure he is even aware of it yet, though he must be starting to wise up? I think he must be in a fragile place now. I never ever thought I'd feel sorry for him, but I think I would now worry for him.

Yeah, it is of his own making. He's had his say on OW and on Netflix. Other people controlled what he was asked and edited his responses. They made him look OK.
But he couldn't stop and this book shows who the unedited person is. He had complete control of when or even if the book was going to be published. He gives zero fucks how other people look in the book or feel. In fact, theorise, the better - becausethey must learn their esson, the lesson of Harry. He gave away huge chunks of other people privacy, all the time moaning over his own privacy being breached.
The first excerpt he had released about William thumping him, if it had gone the way the tv news channels were pushing it, William would have been excoriated and doubts cast on him being king. And would Hary be bothered? He would not. And he'd have been happy for an ongoing drip fed of controlled stories through the Guardian every day to try and destroy his family agonisingly one day at a time. Because that's who he os.
He's a grown man who's been happy to take praise for decisions he's made, to accept awards for his fight against his family, to speak in the UN about leadership qualities (Nelson Mandea,must be spinning in his,grave.)

Don't infantilise him and place the blame on everyone else. This is all Harry's doing, and he reaps what he sows and he's reaping $30m. Yeah, let's all cry for Harry.

Maybe he's hoping that by spilling out everything like a giant vomit then there's nothing more that can be unearthed and the press will somehow leave him alone.

I doubt that will happen though.

@MissTrip82 - YYY to your observations.

I think the extreme vitriol is a good indication that M&H 'read the room' well and were right to decide to leave.