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Do people intentionally ignore Meghans biracial heritage?

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JamSandle · 08/01/2023 00:32

I'm not disputing that many media swipes at Meghan had a racist tone but im really confused as to how many people keep talking about Meghan as being black. I'm assuming many people saying this are American? I dont know many biracial people, myself included, who refer to themselves as only one race. It seems a very American thing to me.

When people talk about Meghan, especially when negatively, why is it considered racist, completely disregarding that she is half white? And especially when she was first introduced, many people didn't know what ethnicity Meghan was. I think she actually has a look that could be quite global in terms of being from anywhere, but she has quite a Southern European/South American look to me.

Again...im not saying there is no racism towards Meghan. But I find it off that people ignore that Meghan is not black, she is biracial.

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Superbrew · 10/01/2023 21:45

I just thought I’d add, someone mentioned that Asian and white tend to identify as mixed more then black and white and wondered why. I’m wondering if hair could be part of that identity and the fact that most mixed black and white do have hair needs/styles and hair prejudice , people touching their hair that white people wouldn’t recognise or understand . Where as Asian and white hair is not that different. Just a thought whilst preparing my girls for bed , and their hair.

Whenharrymetsmelly · 10/01/2023 21:51

Superbrew · 10/01/2023 19:56

I feel a bit sad reading this thread, I read a meme that said “Mixed Race: take a seat someone will be with you shortly to assign you an identity “ that is such a true statement . I’m personally only of mixed countries and I get this a lot people telling me what I am and I don’t like it and that’s just countries in the same continent, I can’t imagine how frustrating it must feel for some people when it’s based on race.

my kids are mixed European /West African, quite dark skinned and Muslim and my eldest is going through a huge identity crisis not knowing where she belongs. It hurts her when people tell her you’re not black, even though she is quite dark, been called a zebra, question why she is a Muslim , presume she is something she isn’t because she wears a hijab. If you are of black and white heritage then you are both black AND white ie they are what they claim to be , it’s for the individual to identify the self not others.

My daughter has suffered racism because of her black heritage and then been told by black AND Asian people “but you’re not black” as if that means she didnt experience that racism.
I don’t agree with the person who said Brown now means Asian, brown is more then just Asian I’m not sure how that works for everyone else with brown toned skin. Especially if some are then told you’re not black?

Mixed races all seem to be put into one category no matter what the background, as if there is a mixed race continent- and of course there isn’t, everyone has to have a sense of belonging so to say “you’re mixed race you’re not black..you’re mixed race you’re not white” is very unjust in my opinion. Especially if you take into consideration people’s experiences you could be mixed but raised in a fully African household and have no other culture, or you could be fully black raised in a white household.

I agree with what someone said about the term heritage being a better way to describe people it makes so much more sense. I’ve read a lot of people saying things like “Meghan is whiter then me, she’s white” her skin colour doesn’t make her white it’s her dna that makes her who she is. She calls herself Bi-racial so that’s what she is. Just as someone with albinism doesn’t automatically make them from the white race, it’s their DNA and heritage that makes them who they are.
That probably doesn’t make too much sense, but I’ve been really struck lately how people of more then one race struggle.

This 💯
It's not up to someone else to tell you what you are or are not.
Imagine if this happened to you if you were a "masculine" female, and someone told you you weren't allowed to be a woman. SMH.

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 21:53

How the actual F are so many posters here saying that they'd never know Meghan was not white??? WTAF.
She is very clearly not white.
At no point during my watching of suits over last however many years and latterly watching the shitshow which she signed up to, is she anything other than mixed race.
FFS.

What is that? Humble bragging on your colour-blindness? Just listen to yourselves!!!

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 21:55

@AnuSTart They are either lying or they are the - I don't see colour, just people - type of person.

Thefriendlyone · 10/01/2023 21:57

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 21:53

How the actual F are so many posters here saying that they'd never know Meghan was not white??? WTAF.
She is very clearly not white.
At no point during my watching of suits over last however many years and latterly watching the shitshow which she signed up to, is she anything other than mixed race.
FFS.

What is that? Humble bragging on your colour-blindness? Just listen to yourselves!!!

Well best you message harry as he said rhe same in his interview with Tom Bradby.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/01/2023 21:57

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 21:53

How the actual F are so many posters here saying that they'd never know Meghan was not white??? WTAF.
She is very clearly not white.
At no point during my watching of suits over last however many years and latterly watching the shitshow which she signed up to, is she anything other than mixed race.
FFS.

What is that? Humble bragging on your colour-blindness? Just listen to yourselves!!!

I never watched Suits, well one episode but I couldn’t get into it. I never saw her and barely heard of her before she and Harry got engaged. I thought she was Latina, or Arabic possibly and honestly don’t care whether you believe that or not. Most arrogant to tell hundreds of people they’re lying though.

BlackFriday · 10/01/2023 22:00

Didn't Meghan herself have written on her acting CV, "can pass for Caucasian?"

SighsTheNewWord · 10/01/2023 22:00

Meghan has said that people thought she was white in Suits, so much so that some expressed disappointment (and some, even racism) to find out that she's mixed race once her dad was introduced.

She also said in her article that she could play any race depending on what she wore/how she styled herself and what was needed.

Perhaps you lot can take it up with her, as it seems she's also lying or "humble bragging" about being ambiguous and 'colour-blind' worthy.

FrostyFifi · 10/01/2023 22:01

I've never watched Suits. I mean I clearly didn't think she was of Scandi heritage or something but I didn't specifically have pinpoint that she was mixed race black and white. The nose job and straight hair make her look very ambiguous.

SighsTheNewWord · 10/01/2023 22:02

The lengths some people would go to stay blind to reality is astonishing.

SighsTheNewWord · 10/01/2023 22:05

Even Meghan isn't claiming what some people so desperately want to claim on her behalf.

I'd find someone else to soldier for when it comes to identity, if it was me. She's pretty much secure in hers.

gogohmm · 10/01/2023 22:05

I didn't realise she was mixed heritage until she started complaining about racism, not that that i would care about her skin tone or racial background, it's simply not an issue. She's pretty, that's all I noticed

Nicecow · 10/01/2023 22:05

BradfordGirl · 10/01/2023 21:55

@AnuSTart They are either lying or they are the - I don't see colour, just people - type of person.

Agree!!

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:05

Oh i get it, I do, I'm not commenting on her as a personality or whatever mental shit she has going on because goodness only knows how many people have felt it better to be a chameleon racially but fuck me there's a lot of white people claiming they didn't know she's white. White! FFS. The blame is not with her.
'Ooooh I thought she was maybe Arabic!'
Whatever. That is not white.

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/01/2023 22:05

SighsTheNewWord · 10/01/2023 22:02

The lengths some people would go to stay blind to reality is astonishing.

What lengths are they going too?

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/01/2023 22:06

To! Not too 😁

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/01/2023 22:07

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:05

Oh i get it, I do, I'm not commenting on her as a personality or whatever mental shit she has going on because goodness only knows how many people have felt it better to be a chameleon racially but fuck me there's a lot of white people claiming they didn't know she's white. White! FFS. The blame is not with her.
'Ooooh I thought she was maybe Arabic!'
Whatever. That is not white.

You seem angry that people aren’t thinking about race and understand it in exactly the way that you do.

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:07

I'm not angry. I find it disingenuous.

BlackFriday · 10/01/2023 22:08

I don't recall paying much attention particularly because it wasn't an issue to me what her heritage was.

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/01/2023 22:10

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:07

I'm not angry. I find it disingenuous.

I do actually want to understand what you’re saying. Are you angry that people aren’t making a big deal out of her not being white? You think they’re pretending not to care or something?

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:13

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:07

I'm not angry. I find it disingenuous.

@BethDuttonsTwin did you Google disingenuous yet?

jtaeapa · 10/01/2023 22:13

She can identify however she wants. And I am certain that she has been the target of racism at times - like the cartoon of the monkey.

However, when I look at the attached photo, I don't obviously see a black person. She looks white passing or olive skinned or biracial. But simply "black" - that's not what I see and I do wonder whether other black people are happy with MM telling the world how she as a black person has experienced things.

Do people intentionally ignore Meghans biracial heritage?
AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:14

"Are you angry that people aren’t making a big deal out of her not being white? You think they’re pretending not to care or something?"

I just said I'm not angry.

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/01/2023 22:19

AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:13

@BethDuttonsTwin did you Google disingenuous yet?

Are you saying I am being disingenuous? Are you saying that everyone who says they didn’t notice that Meghan was biracial is being disingenuous? These are genuine questions. You say that people are pretending if they say they didn’t notice it, another poster says they’re being performative and saying “they just don’t see colour”. Can it really not just be that people are telling the truth, as I know I am? I looked at a photo of her and thought she was pretty and maybe Latina or Arabic. I’m addressing you because you quoted that in a scoffing way in one of your posts and I want to understand why.

SighsTheNewWord · 10/01/2023 22:23

Meghan has said that people thought she was white in Suits, so much so that some expressed disappointment (and some, even racism) to find out that she's mixed race once her dad was introduced.

I noticed that saying people realised she is mixed and not white seems more palatable to some people than saying people realised she's mixed not black. The pitchforks would come out for the latter.

Why does one cause more ire than the other? Isn't she just as white (if not more) as she is black?

Odd reality to constantly deny.