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Taliban say Harry killed civilians

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Falalalalalalaetc · 07/01/2023 15:05

In totally totally unsurprising development.

Taliban says Harry killed civilians

“We checked and found that the days on which Prince Harry is mentioning the killing of 25 mujaheddin, we did not have any casualties in Helmand,” Taliban leader Anas Haqqani told Al Jazeera on Friday. “It is clear that civilians and ordinary people were targeted.”

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Snippedasababy · 07/01/2023 18:06

Falalalalalalaetc · 07/01/2023 17:59

Let's hope it stays that way and we learn the UK media does still have some decency to not repeat the propaganda (and obvious lies) of the Taliban. It's on al jazeera though.

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Yea, I hope they don’t either.

I more thought it was interesting, due to posters continually saying the Ik media is happy to increase the risk to Harry and his family by cherry picking stories.

Here they are ‘cherry picking’ in his favour, as they But these instances seem to get forgotten by the posters desperate to pretend it’s not Harry’s fault he is now more at risk.

rumship · 07/01/2023 18:17

People who are making excuses for Harry are quite obviously fighting tooth and nail to act ignorant or they are as bright as Harry.

Stop quoting old story's that were printed in 2013 this is irrelevant, there were printed at a time of war and did not expand or widen the threat level. It was a whole different scenario and the Taliban were not in control.

Banging on about othere ex soldiers and special forces like Andy McNabb are chalk and cheese. Harry is a member of the royal family a whole different level of status on the world stage, with a far larger platform to stir the pot.

No one gives a shit if you or others on the UK think it's crap, the Taliban, their supporters and many sympathetic Muslims see this as a written all out insult on the world stage, towards them, their values, beliefs and race. Harry dehumanising them calling them previously rag heads, now classing them as chess pieces to be taken out is idiotic dangerous and dam right unforgivable.

We are no longer at war and he is using them as a piece in his war on his family, cheaping their lives and very existence. He has put everyone of us in the west at risk, including our armed forces. If there are any reprisals from the Taliban or is supporters I do hope every some person squarely puts the blame at his door and he should answer for his actions.

drpet49 · 07/01/2023 18:20

AllOfThemWitches · 07/01/2023 15:22

Coz we trust the taliban?

This. Yeah they checked their records. How laughable.

WeWereInParis · 07/01/2023 18:23

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 15:29

Harry wants his security paid for. This will now mean the threat to him is higher and therefore paid security more justified. He's not as daft as he looks on this one.

Deliberately increasing the threat to his family in order to get security would be more than daft, it's unbelievably stupid (if that was his plan here).

Poonicorn · 07/01/2023 18:26

Totally irresponsible of the publisher to allow this to be printed. How can he bleat about having to pay for his own security and then paint an even bigger target on the back of himself, his wife, his children and maybe even UK citizens.

TheRedLip · 07/01/2023 18:28

Harry has just played right into the Taliban's hands, and then some. He has just reinforced their propaganda that the West are just debauched, souless heathens who see Muslims as less than human and want to stamp them out like ants.

It doesn't matter that most will ignore and disbelieve this propaganda. The fact is that millions will.

Redblanky · 07/01/2023 18:36

The Taliban response could be complete nonsense, but it's also entirely predictable. What on earth was he thinking? Whoever the dead were, even if you believe they're a necessary cost of war, you don't go bragging about it. Soldiers just don't do that.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 07/01/2023 18:42

This. Yeah they checked their records. How laughable.

You really think this is about us trusting the Taliban? There are millions who will. What part of that is really so complex to understand. Did everyone just forget Lee Rigby? Harry has made many people a target with his comment.

TheRedLip · 07/01/2023 18:43

drpet49 · 07/01/2023 18:20

This. Yeah they checked their records. How laughable.

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For God's sake, how can you be so bad at thinking?

AlienatedChildGrown · 07/01/2023 18:47

WeWereInParis · 07/01/2023 18:23

Deliberately increasing the threat to his family in order to get security would be more than daft, it's unbelievably stupid (if that was his plan here).

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It’s reckless, self centred and devoid of any thought given to unintended consequences. Which is not unusual when people get a flash of inspiration for an off-ramp. Especially on the spur of the moment, when trapped in the corner you’ve painted yourself into.

Boulshired · 07/01/2023 18:47

I agree with the propaganda, The taliban aims is more likely to be for sympathisers to take action than to organise a direct response.

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 18:50

FictionalCharacter · 07/01/2023 16:39

He’s daft if this really is his strategy. Private security i.e. bodyguards are not able to detect and deal with terrorist threats. That’s the job of MI5, MI6 and specialist police. Harry knows this.

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That's the point. He wants this specialist security back that he has already been refused. He doesn't want to pay for private bodyguards, he wants the state to pay for state level security. Now he literally has a target on his back, they can't say it isn't warranted any more. Certainly not when he is in the UK.

jays · 07/01/2023 18:55

Broadswordcalling · 07/01/2023 15:15

I can not fathom how Harry is so blind to his own stupidity, not just in this context but all of it. He's an embarrassment to the Country.

Speak for yourself not your country. You’re not the PM!

Poonicorn · 07/01/2023 18:57

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 18:50

That's the point. He wants this specialist security back that he has already been refused. He doesn't want to pay for private bodyguards, he wants the state to pay for state level security. Now he literally has a target on his back, they can't say it isn't warranted any more. Certainly not when he is in the UK.

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Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. If he really is deliberating putting his family at risk just to prove a point then he is a bigger idiot than I thought.

Redblanky · 07/01/2023 18:58

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 18:50

That's the point. He wants this specialist security back that he has already been refused. He doesn't want to pay for private bodyguards, he wants the state to pay for state level security. Now he literally has a target on his back, they can't say it isn't warranted any more. Certainly not when he is in the UK.

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I don't think the dispute is (all).about money. Private security is not allowed to be armed in UK. He wants armed bodyguards.

TiddyTidTwo · 07/01/2023 19:03

Haven't Rtft but he's opened us all up to this. Thick as shit and to be a member of the British military then do this he can go f@£k himself.

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 19:05

I think you are completely missing my point. Harry wants the Royal Protection back that he had when he was a working royal. You can't buy this, it's provided by a special branch of The Met. He wants this, not his own bodyguards that he pays for himself whether they are armed or not.

The Met have said he can't have this security any more. He took them to court over it. Can they really refuse it not the threat level to him has significantly increased?

BMW6 · 07/01/2023 19:08

I have an overwhelming urge to bang my head repeatedly against a wall.

gulliblestravels · 07/01/2023 19:09

I wonder what would happen if H&M divorced and he returned to the UK. Would he personally have to pay for their security?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 07/01/2023 19:09

Can they really refuse it not the threat level to him has significantly increased?

Let's hope so. Fingers crossed he's not back in the U.K. for a long time.

AlienatedChildGrown · 07/01/2023 19:10

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 19:05

I think you are completely missing my point. Harry wants the Royal Protection back that he had when he was a working royal. You can't buy this, it's provided by a special branch of The Met. He wants this, not his own bodyguards that he pays for himself whether they are armed or not.

The Met have said he can't have this security any more. He took them to court over it. Can they really refuse it not the threat level to him has significantly increased?

They can agree the threat is raised, offer protection officers in the U.K. when at their British residence, with limited, quiet, non-media related pootling around the country. And that might be exactly what he wants. The hand he is trying to force might not be attached to his family of origin.

IcedPurple · 07/01/2023 19:12

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 19:05

I think you are completely missing my point. Harry wants the Royal Protection back that he had when he was a working royal. You can't buy this, it's provided by a special branch of The Met. He wants this, not his own bodyguards that he pays for himself whether they are armed or not.

The Met have said he can't have this security any more. He took them to court over it. Can they really refuse it not the threat level to him has significantly increased?

The Home Office has said that his security needs are assessed on a case by case basis, which sounds eminently reasonable to me. What he wanted is to have automatic armed police protection every time he deigns to set foot in Britain, regardless of the current risk assessment.

Either way, you'd have to be very paranoid to think that the British state would be indifferent to threats faced by the son of the king. But then, Harry is very paranoid, just like Diana was.

And his case is a Judicial Review whose aim is only to find out if the process by which the decision was made was done fairly or not. At most it can lead to his case being reassessed by the relevant authorities, who may well come to the same conclusion all over again. It seems a very cumbersome way to go about things, but then Harry doesn't seem to operate on a real world basis.

TiddyTidTwo · 07/01/2023 19:13

"The Met have said he can't have this security any more. He took them to court over it. Can they really refuse it not the threat level to him has significantly increased?"

Yes they can. This is all of his own making and if they can spare security let's spend it those he's put at risk

Megan1992xx · 07/01/2023 19:14

As an habitual drug user who mistakes bins for people they probably were civilians.

FictionalCharacter · 07/01/2023 19:17

FortunaMajor · 07/01/2023 19:05

I think you are completely missing my point. Harry wants the Royal Protection back that he had when he was a working royal. You can't buy this, it's provided by a special branch of The Met. He wants this, not his own bodyguards that he pays for himself whether they are armed or not.

The Met have said he can't have this security any more. He took them to court over it. Can they really refuse it not the threat level to him has significantly increased?

Royal Protection can’t protect him from terrorists either.