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Harry was totally ill advised when writing this book

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supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:17

I'm actually shocked at the level of personal detail this book seems to go into. He seems to have shared every personal moment and detail in his life and his families' life.

I can't work out if the publisher or his Management have massively taken advantage of his vulnerability in advising him to write so personally or if he is genuinely that bitter and naive that he feels it was the right thing to do.

There are meant to be two more books, what other revelations are there? Whilst it's fascinating to read (yes I am hypocrite as I do find it interesting) I can't help but think he will live to regret doing this and it will all blow up in his face. Considering he hates the tabloid press it feels so tabloidy (I don't think that's a word but you get what I mean).

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Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:06

@sashagabadon
I haven't read the book- obvs - but the taliban issue could have taken out of context - ie he has learnt not to view them as mere chess pieces

I doubt it 'hero' thing. Though he was lauded as such at the time I remember
And it could be to point out that he had real service not a row of pretend medals

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:07

I don't know why I used the word 'service ' for the army . I hate it all

sashagabadon · 07/01/2023 12:12

debbrianna · 07/01/2023 11:59

The neckles thing just adds to William's personality as aggressive and abusive.

But he did apologise quite quickly. I see it more as the level of frustration William had with Harry not been able to see how he was being manipulated. It would be hugely frustrating and infuriating to see your brother behave in a way ( that you) think is going to end in tears. I think it also shows how much William dislikes Meghan too.
if he did not mind her or at least tolerated her he would not have been so cross.

sashagabadon · 07/01/2023 12:13

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:06

@sashagabadon
I haven't read the book- obvs - but the taliban issue could have taken out of context - ie he has learnt not to view them as mere chess pieces

I doubt it 'hero' thing. Though he was lauded as such at the time I remember
And it could be to point out that he had real service not a row of pretend medals

Yep agree! But it’s out there now and not much can be done to reverse the narrative.

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:14

No @sashagabadon
That won't wash

A man in his late 30s , who is supposed to be 'king' and to whom we are supposed to bow - assaulting his brother in a rage because his brothers wife speaks up for herself ??
It's the most damaging thing I've heard so far from the excerpts

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:15

I mean Charles has hissy ford about a pen but apart from in his youth do we know of Charles assaulting people ?

sashagabadon · 07/01/2023 12:18

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:14

No @sashagabadon
That won't wash

A man in his late 30s , who is supposed to be 'king' and to whom we are supposed to bow - assaulting his brother in a rage because his brothers wife speaks up for herself ??
It's the most damaging thing I've heard so far from the excerpts

But that’s not how it is being viewed. People find it funny and are joking about it. Jimmy kimmel has made a sketch about it.
so it hasn’t played out as Harry and Megan hoped which is the reason it was released to the guardian.
just shows you cannot ever control the media. They will say and do what they want and there is not much you can do about it.
the royal family know this but Harry and Meghan don’t ( maybe they are learning it now)

FedUpWithEverything123 · 07/01/2023 12:25

I can't stand Harry, even less his deranged wife - but I can see that he is a vulnerable, damaged, not-the-brightest person who seems to have been unethically exploited by his publisher and ghost-writer into publishing extremely intimate, embarassing and ill-advised information. They should have been protecting him, stopping him from airing some of these details - instead, they must have encouraged it, or at least allowed it, for their profit. Obviously Harry was fine with it too, for his profit, but someone should have stopped it. It's really awful to see it all unfold.

Glindara · 07/01/2023 12:25

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 11:17

I have a theory

Harry has thrown every bit of gossip / damage he can think of into the book in order to take these 'weapons' from the hands of the 'royals' and the press
He has laid it all out - they have little left to use against him in their briefing wars
Clever really

So which of H revelations in the book do you think the RF had been blackmailing him with?

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:26

I don't know what people you are referring to . The daily Mail types are trying that line to try to defuse it all.
It's not working

We know William is arrogant and has an uncontrolled temper

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:29

Interesting article in today's independent

The whole royal family lie being blown open
William didn't want Harry as best man but they did it for the 'look' of happy families

Harry was sidelined once they were in private

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-james-hewitt-prince-charles-b2257386.html

noooope · 07/01/2023 12:31

I wonder if their US friends would be associated with them anymore whether it's a birthday party or some project as he has made himself and his family a target I mean I wouldn't want to be in the same place as them and be collateral damage. Up until now it was tabloids publishing things and you would question their truthfulness but now he is confirming these. How I see Harry is he doesn't live in the real world and never has which we can all agree whether you like them or not. He was shielded, isn't street smart, is vulnerable and is surrounded by people to make money including his wife like her or not but that's how I see it. I blame the royal family to be honest, they could have protected him a bit more and allowed him to have one foot in and one foot out hence why Harry is burning all the bridges one by one, laying all the things they have been threatening him with to keep him on a leash so he is free there but at what cost? Yes he is making millions but at what cost? Money burns too especially with the lifestyle they like living in.

Glindara · 07/01/2023 12:36

noooope · 07/01/2023 12:31

I wonder if their US friends would be associated with them anymore whether it's a birthday party or some project as he has made himself and his family a target I mean I wouldn't want to be in the same place as them and be collateral damage. Up until now it was tabloids publishing things and you would question their truthfulness but now he is confirming these. How I see Harry is he doesn't live in the real world and never has which we can all agree whether you like them or not. He was shielded, isn't street smart, is vulnerable and is surrounded by people to make money including his wife like her or not but that's how I see it. I blame the royal family to be honest, they could have protected him a bit more and allowed him to have one foot in and one foot out hence why Harry is burning all the bridges one by one, laying all the things they have been threatening him with to keep him on a leash so he is free there but at what cost? Yes he is making millions but at what cost? Money burns too especially with the lifestyle they like living in.

What specifically has he laid out in the book that the RF have been threatening him with?

sashagabadon · 07/01/2023 12:50

Half in half out could never ever have worked. It would have been a shitshow not to mention setting a precedent for every other future royal. How could it have worked?
where would the boundaries have been between royal work and non royal work?
and how would those boundaries (assuming you could come up with sensible ones ) be managed?
media, Security, travel, cause, politics, etc etc etc plus dealing with clearly difficult people like h and m. Who would have had overall control of half in half out? Which media could cover an event? Royal rota or Netflix?
and why agree to all this nonsense for someone not even constitutionally important. It would have just been one massive ginormous headache for everyone ( including m and h)

VioletLemon · 07/01/2023 12:52

From watching the Netflix episodes it seems they listen to nobody, are rigid thinkers and harbour a deep grudge as a couple which is nothing in comparison to the grudge 'H' carries. He appears to have used 'M' 's bullying by UK media as a projection board back to his own needs and slights.

I feel for his children, they have brought risk, more attention than they would have had in UK and made them tabloid fodder for the next 30 years and beyond.

I always thought he seemed like a nice person, albeit a bit unhinged. Now he seems like a very stupid, selfish, validation seeking huy that needs a year of treatment as an in patient. It's embarrassing for them all. He's a grown man.

diddl · 07/01/2023 13:12

I would be interested in knowing what lies have been told about him & Meghan in exchange for not releasing a "bad" story about Charles/William/Camilla.

queenofarles · 07/01/2023 13:27

Was he even sober or maybe medicated when he said all these things?
no amount of money in the world is worth talking about your frost bitten member or killing
other soldiers , wetting yourself prior to meeting your wife for the first time, stallion sex and spanking ??
it just doesn’t add up, either he’s so immature he takes big decisions on a whim, and then regrets them later or easily manipulated by those around him for their own benefit ,

I really hope the Spanish copy is a spoof and his way of a big f* u to the press . It can’t be real .

SolitudeNotLoneliness · 07/01/2023 13:39

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:14

No @sashagabadon
That won't wash

A man in his late 30s , who is supposed to be 'king' and to whom we are supposed to bow - assaulting his brother in a rage because his brothers wife speaks up for herself ??
It's the most damaging thing I've heard so far from the excerpts

But on the other side, Harry's book is so 'poor us' and 'me, me, me' that I don't feel the issue would be people seeing William as a terrible person ( in arguments I'm sure many siblings have crossed paths far worse) but thinking tjis isn't the full story and likely, whether it be the isolated incident or as a bigger picture there would be some other provocation as Harry is coming across as a naive, mis guided person who isn't reading the public perception of him.

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 13:42

@VioletLemon I am just watching the last couple of episodes of the documentary. The first four episodes I felt complete sympathy. But going on and on about feeling unsafe (which is totally fair) and then to write a book exposing that you've killed 25 Taliban. Surely you've put your family at immense risk?

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MarshaMelrose · 07/01/2023 13:45

debbrianna · 07/01/2023 11:29

This.

Yeah, I think the whole book strategy has been genius. Charles won't be able to talk about his dearest boy being spanked behind a pub after popping his cherry. Charles'll be gutted by that. 🙄

Lollypop701 · 07/01/2023 13:53

I’ve been to weddings with more than one best man… one does the rings one does the speech etc not that unusual if a man has more than one close friend. Bit like having more than one bridesmaid

mynameisnotkate · 07/01/2023 14:03

Novella4 · 07/01/2023 12:29

Interesting article in today's independent

The whole royal family lie being blown open
William didn't want Harry as best man but they did it for the 'look' of happy families

Harry was sidelined once they were in private

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-james-hewitt-prince-charles-b2257386.html

But it’s totally reasonable for someone in their mid-30s not to want to centre their sibling in their life. Why shouldn’t Will have sidelined him, he’s not responsible for him and has his own life. It’s so narcissistic to think that other people should always put you first.

I’m sure it’s also not unusual for people to ask their brother to be their best man to keep the peace / make the family happy even if they feel closer to other people - especially if there is so much media attention on their family.

None of that is at all unusual or surprising, unless you think you are the centre of the universe.

MarshaMelrose · 07/01/2023 14:05

William had two groomsmen who did toasts at the meal. But according to Harry, he went out with William the night before, had dinner together, got drunk together, went to talk to people on the Mall, stayed over with William, rode to the church with him, stood next to him, waited next to h (with his frost-bitten todger) waiting for kate to arrive, looked after the rings, accomanied Pippa Middeton out, sat on the top table, etc.
I know which of those three sounds like the best man to me.

laurwalsh · 07/01/2023 14:07

supertato32 · 07/01/2023 10:30

Relax, I will get it moved!

Didn't realise I'd offend so many mumsnetters by asking am I being unreasonable to think Harry was I'll advised when writing this book.
(Which is a legitimate question).

It's a perfect legit question op and I wondered the same. Ignore the moaners they don't have to click the thread. They need a life.

thaodien · 07/01/2023 14:15

He signed up for the four book deal and the Netflix series at the height of his anguish following departure from the Firm in early 2020. So all of this was right for him then. Advance money was paid and spent. There is no way back.

Relations improved somewhat in the last two years but it seems the wound is still there albeit not as deep as in 2020. To throw the book out now seems utterly careless and ill advised but thats just timing. The deal was done.